Posted on 04/20/2006 5:06:38 AM PDT by HonduGOP
Familiarity has bred contempt.
Few of these polls matter until 2008.
Who ARE these people????
All I know is WE MUST keep control of Congress in Nov at all costs.
Don't play into the socialist hands by passing their Mccain/Kennedy bill.
Might Hillary yet save the Republican Party?
While I generally share your skepticism of polls so far out, I don't in this case. We already know that jockeying for the Presidency begins a long way out from 2008. The whispers among Dems have already started that "she can't win" because of her high negatives. We saw similar things with Janet Reno and Howard Dean, albeit both during shorter time spans. Will it be enough to torpedo her? I don't know. But I am by no means convinced Ms. Clinton will even be able to win her party's primary, much less get 270 electoral votes.
I do wish I had the same belief. IMO, the only way she'll not make the Dem Canidacy is if Bill were to pass on long before. He still had quite a few strings to pull on her behalf, and a lot of his loyal people would fall away were he no longer there.
If we could just get her the hell out of the Senate , maybe she would go away. I doubt it though.
I also wonder what loosing her Senate seat this November might do to her Presidential aspirations?
Of course, if she doesn't win the primary and run in 2008, one of my all time favorite fantasies will go down the tubes: Voting AGAINST The Hildabeaste J
Few of these polls matter until 2008.
Only the exit polls are important damit. John Kerry
I think Hillary as the Dem nominee is the Republicans' best chance to win in 2008. I'm not saying it would be easy - it won't be. But I believe she is beatable, even if the GOP is in a weakened state. If the Democrats suddenly get smart and nominate someone like a Mark Warner or Tom Vilsack or Evan Bayh or Bill Richardson (someone who can credibly act the part of a moderate), then I think the GOP would be facing a really uphill climb.
I think it is likely that Hillary will win the nomination. She will have such a huge edge in early fundraising, that by the time the rest of the field is winnowed down to one clear anti-Hillary alternative, she'll still have the New York and Illinois and California primaries ahead of her, where she'll clean up. She'll also have the edge with the superdelegates. Unless she falters early on, or unless another Democrat catches fire and emerges as the alternative before the early primaries are over, I expect her to win.
And what about her makes those people have a favorable opinion of her? Is it her hairdo? Her often bored and/or tired demeanor? Her being now a New Yorker?
Unless she falters early on, or unless another Democrat catches fire and emerges as the alternative before the early primaries are over, I expect her to win.
But keep in mind that is exactly what happened in '04. I remember laughing at Kerry's campaign when he had to loan himself money, saying something like "he may not be toast, but the bread's gettin' warm." But what propelled him back into contention and the nomination was the perception that Howard couldn't win. It was helped along by the scream (Yeeeaaaggghhh!!), but the momentum was already there.
She also has a big advantage the way the DemonRats are arranging the early primaries so there will be a number of large states having their primaries at the same time as the Iowa caucuses and the N. H. primary. That's likely to allow the Witch to pick up a great deal of DemonRat momentum without being subjected to any serious scrutiny.
That's true, but there is one major difference between Dean and Hillary. Dean was an outsider candidate that the party machine never really wanted a part of. His early success was a house of cards built on internet donations and support from people who usually don't vote. That's why he underachieved early and imploded so dramatically at the slightest misstep. Hillary has a much stronger fundamental base of support with the core of the party that it will take something dramatic to knock out those underpinnings.
On the other hand, if she remains a senator from NY, she is likely to replace both of Massachusetts' senators as the largest waste of skin in the Senate after they retire/"go down to defeat in flames" (doesn't matter how we get them out of the Senate, just as long as we do!).
Well, we both agree Hillary is much more entrenched within the "establishment." But I don't view Dean as that much of an outsider, especially back during that time. Heck, even after his supernova meltdown they still went and made him DNC Chairman.
The 2008 presidential campaign starts the day after the 2006 midterms. That's still a long way off in politcal time, but these negative numbers for Hillary have to be of concern to her.
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