Posted on 04/19/2006 4:08:53 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX
Native Utahn David Timmins makes it clear up front that he has no personal issue with Mexico or the Mexican people. During a well-traveled career as a U.S. foreign service officer, he lived for a time in Mexico and says he enjoyed his posting there immensely.
But in light of the current consternation over immigration, the Harvard-educated diplomat thinks it's applicable to the debate to bring up something he learned while he lived south of the border.
"Mexicans see the Western U.S. as part of Mexico that was stolen from them 150 years ago," he says. "They believe this with all their heart."
It's his view that the thousands flooding across the border every month don't see themselves illegally immigrating into a foreign land.
They see themselves coming home.
And we're the illegals.
"I lived in Mexico 20 years ago," says Timmins, referring to his days as an embassy worker in Hermosillo in the late 1980s, "and during that time I reported without much attention being paid in Washington on the evolving Mexican government policy of passively promoting illegal immigration as part of a deliberate and long-range strategy to regain control of the border and mountain states it lost during the Mexican War of 1847-48."
Timmins points to a specific incident he remembers that pounded home to him the reality of what he is saying:
"I was visiting the Museum of National History in Mexico City where I observed a class of perhaps 40 10-year-old school kids sitting on the ground in front of a huge mosaic map that was labeled 'Mexico Integral,' or 'Greater Mexico.' Their teacher expounded on how the Norteamericanos stole half of Mexico in 1847. The map showed Mexico to include Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, California, most of Idaho, and Oregon and Washington up to the Alaska panhandle."
Timmins explains that, in addition to what the United States gained in 1847, Mexico also believes part of the territory sold to America by France in the Louisiana Purchase of 1803 actually belonged to Spain, which by extension means Mexico.
"They (Mexicans) think we bought a disputed title," he says. "But luckily for us, (Thomas) Jefferson moved fast."
Add up all this history, Timmins says, and it explains "why every Mexican president, up to and including Vicente Fox, thinks his citizens are simply navigating to land that is historically their entitlement."
Further, he sees an objective to this passive navigation.
"They have an undeclared policy to retake by infiltration what they lost by infiltration," he says, comparing the large numbers of Mexicans currently streaming into U.S. territory to the large numbers of Americans who once poured into then Mexican-held strongholds in Texas, California and elsewhere; Americans who eventually turned their collective might into majority rule.
In other words, they're doing to us what we did to them.
Part of this "infiltration" is remaining fiercely loyal to their Latino culture — including such basics as music, food and, especially, language — while steering clear of becoming "Americanized" to any significant extent.
Timmins notes that unlike European immigrants who largely shake off their roots and their accents within a generation, Mexican immigrants — illegal and legal — tend to stay true to where they came from.
"Their object is to not shift the border on the maps but shift the border in people's minds," says Timmins.
At issue, he points out, is "Who will own the American Southwest a generation from now?"
The retired embassy worker isn't at all sure it's going to be the current home team. In his view, unless "serious reform" is put into place, including much stronger immigration rules that deny all benefits to illegals, including the ability to send money home, and impose serious penalties on American employers who hire illegals, the cultural slide will only increase.
"It is only going to corrupt our system if we don't get control of our borders and control of our assimilation process," he says. "The notion that all that is needed is enforcement of existing law plus a guest worker program is simplistic beyond description."
You know me. Of course, I'll lay back and take it. LOL
The more this comes out, the more unwanted they will be.
Well, it makes me feel like it's time to kick them off our land.
Yes, I can understand the western states, but what's their excuse for Georgia?
I know.
But don't fret, it will all be all legal-like by the time it's over.
As the proctologist says... this won't hurt a bit, did it?
And many Russians say they have claims to Alaska, most of canada, and the Midwestern US.
"right of return" ivory tower BS.
This is going to be a negotiating point in the future the MSM will create value with this propagands.
This is "kyoto treaty"ish. Creating an issue where none exists.
Duh! That's what they are running away from!
Ah, but you forget one vital fact: They're not very bright.
It's all I can do to cope with what's already here. :(
Improvisational skills are all that's left beyond that, and I've certainly faked my way through a lot of tunes.
Course, usually nobody shoots you if you screw it up.
This could be a lot tougher crowd then I'm used to dealing with, so say a prayer for me that I might be able to pull it off. I'll need it, cause I am pretty damn rusty on my Rancho Grande.
I've dealt with some pretty tough crowds in my day... well, let me rephrase that -- I've dealt with some pretty tough "types" in my day. Big difference now is that it IS a "crowd". I did OK when dealing one to one. For example, I'm still alive.
I've had "adventures" like being awakened by a kick to the head, with a Mauser "broomhandle" pointing in my face when I opened my eyes, being held hostage while waiting for "the guy with the .38" to show up, etc., etc., etc. And, I'm still here.
Clarification -- the time I was held hostage, it wasn't one-to-one -- but then, I wasn't alone either. We all got out alive. (And there were more of "them" than "us".)
Still, those events from my far distant past (about 40 years ago) pale by comparison to what the country is facing, and will be facing. And, I'm a lot older now, and in poor health.
They seem to be stoking themselves up for a confrontation.
The companion pr piece from the Salt Lake Tribune...the hits just keep on coming.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_3729458
The same as their "excuse" for the western states the first time they took them over.
This is going to be a negotiating point in the future the MSM will create value with this propagands.
This is "kyoto treaty"ish. Creating an issue where none exists.
I'm sure things will go more smoothly once the UN annoints Robert Mugabe as Ambassador at Large for Land Reform.
"The original Spanish invaders were of European stock, some with Moorish influence no doubt, but not presenting physical characteristics consistent with what we see in Mexicans today."
Here is a link to a picture of a native "New Mexican." They think of themselves as Spaniards, since they were not Mexicans at any time. They were citizens of Spain - then they were US citizens. I would also point out the very "Moorish" appearance of the gentleman (who happens to be my husband.) The girl is my daughter. Please don't make broad assumptions about the appearance of those who lived in the Western United States prior to 1850.
http://myspace-485.vo.llnwd.net/00586/58/47/586307485_l.jpg
May God keep you safe should it turn ugly.
They may be uneducated, that's true. But they are bright enough to sneak across the border, make it to a city, land a job or two and bamboozle this government in the process.
They can try to say that the Mexican Cession of 1848 was under duress, but the Gadsden Purchase was freely agreed to by the Mexican government of that time. In fact, Mexico agreed to sell a larger chunk of territory, but the Senate reduced the area (because the Northern senators were trying to reduce the area that might later be part of the slaveholding states).
Hey watch out, you might suffer the fate of Travis McGee.
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