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This is exactly why we need what Rush Limbaugh calls "Congress Insurance!" Stupid CONgress is so intimidated by the EnvironMental Communutty that they're mandating this oxygenate crappola when the refining industry has said for years they can make clean burning 50 state gasoline without all these boutique mixtures for each region!!! THIS IS INSANE!!! (and it's what's reaching into your wallet right now!!!)
1 posted on 04/18/2006 4:27:25 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: Dog Gone; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; dalereed; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...
Here's the reason for the current high price gouging for gasoline. Hungry? Broke? Out of Work? Out of Gas? Eat an EnvironMentalist!!! (but roast 'em first!)

Yup! Your CONgressperson did this too you, so it's no wonder their so unpopular. People instinctively know we're all in trouble whenever they're in session!!!

2 posted on 04/18/2006 4:33:01 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Without knowing the force of words, it is impossible to know man!!! (or especially Waspman!!!))
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"In terms of performance of vehicles there will be no difference.

I believe you'll get worse MPG, so you will pay more for less.

3 posted on 04/18/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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4 posted on 04/18/2006 4:34:30 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (they love you in Mexico until you pay in pesos.)
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E85 isn't insane, the mixtures, well that's another thing. If people knew the costs, they wouldn't be used.


5 posted on 04/18/2006 4:36:33 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: SierraWasp
Imagine an industry that runs 24/7 at 97-98% of capacity being asked to produce and distribute (through a single pipeline system) 47 different blends.

Now, by Congressional fiat, change the materials that must be used in the blend -- without regard to their availability.

Thank God for Big Oil!

7 posted on 04/18/2006 4:38:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: SierraWasp
Whatever gets complainers to shut up about gas prices without reeking of communism, I am for it.

Actions are respectable. Moaning is pathetic.

8 posted on 04/18/2006 4:41:25 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SierraWasp
Congress also decided not to include a liability waiver in the energy bill to protect refiners that blended MTBE into gasoline from lawsuits stemming from contamination. This has touched off a rapid phase-out of MTBE from gasoline stocks ahead of May when the renewable fuel provisions in the energy bill kick in and refiners say they face liability exposure.
WTF does that mean?

I don't know guys, I'm coming from this thread. I need to be overdosed - brought up to speed - quickly.

10 posted on 04/18/2006 4:45:14 PM PDT by raygun
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18 posted on 04/18/2006 4:57:14 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (they love you in Mexico until you pay in pesos.)
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Supply concerns for ethanol? hehehe...if my grandpa, great uncle, and great grandpa were still alive, there would be no supply concerns for ethanol. but then again, maybe so because they would drink it before it got shipped out. Hhhmmm....now where exactly did I put that copper pot?


21 posted on 04/18/2006 5:00:50 PM PDT by RobertP
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Ethanol is a home-grown renewable fuel made primarily from corn feedstock that can be blended with gasoline to make it burner cleaner

Some environmentalists hate ethanol; they say that ethanol is terrible for the environment.

For instance, the runoff from corn fields create "dead zones" in rivers, lakes, deltas, and oceans near coastlines.

Furthermore, in order to produce ethanol, a lot of corn must be produced, using exorbitant amounts of water and other natural resources.

Therefore, ethanol creates huge environmental problems. It is more expensive than oil in many ways.

24 posted on 04/18/2006 5:09:22 PM PDT by daivid
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My Polaris ATV manual warned me not to use Ethanol but did I listen, NO and now I am having troubles with the needle and seat, the hoses collapsed and I am sure it burns 20% more fuel like automobiles. This could drive a guy to drink!
26 posted on 04/18/2006 5:25:38 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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Bush could delay this order with an EO - one call to the EPA to suspend the ethanol mandate for one year is all it would take.


27 posted on 04/18/2006 5:28:51 PM PDT by oceanview
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Is there anything that doesn't cause gasoline price spikes? If it rains, the price goes up. If it doesn't rain, the price goes up. If there's war, the price goes up. If there's peace, the price goes up. If somebody comes up with a way to decrease our need for gas, the price goes up too! And so on. We can't win.
29 posted on 04/18/2006 5:51:20 PM PDT by Fairview
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I’ve got the “I can’t Be the Town Drunk Anymore ‘Cause I Got Run Outta Town” Blues!

I was cruisin’ my pick-up,
Goin’ up hill and down.
My tank was on empty,
I looked for a town.

In the fog on the mountain,
I was driving real slow,
Saw a neat little valley,
With a town down below.

So I drifted on down there,
On the fumes in my tank,
Looked around for a station,
All I saw was a bank.

Last time it was open,
LBJ ruled the day.
There was no gas to purchase,
And no way I could pay.

I got the I can’t Be the Town Drunk Anymore ‘Cause I Got Run Outta Town Blues!
Ain’t nobody gonna give me nothin’ but the tips of their shoes!
As they kick and they fight,
Til I’m clear outta sight,
They don’t want me takin’ up their time or their booze!

There I sat in my truck,
I was down at my heels,
I’d run clear out of luck,
Guess you know how that feels.

When a scruffy old feller,
Offered something to drink.
It was something so horrid,
It might kill me I think.

But I had to be friendly,
So I told the man fine,
Got a gallon of moonshine,
For a buck twenty-nine.


I got the I can’t Be the Town Drunk Anymore ‘Cause I Got Run Outta Town Blues!
Ain’t nobody gonna give me nothin’ but the tips of their shoes!
As they kick and they fight,
Til I’m clear outta sight,
They don’t want me takin’ up their time or their booze!

I knew I couldn’t drink it,
For it reeked and it stank,
So just to get shet of it,
I poured it into my tank.

Don’t know what I was thinkin’
Tried to start my old truck,
Well, she ran like a new pup!
Had a change in my luck.

Bought some more of that homebrew,
For a price I can’t beat,
Keeps me rolling much better,
Than the gas on your street!

I got the I can’t Be the Town Drunk Anymore ‘Cause I Got Run Outta Town Blues!
Ain’t nobody gonna give me nothin’ but the tips of their shoes!
As they kick and they fight,
Til I’m clear outta sight,
They don’t want me takin’ up their time or their booze!

I went back pretty often,
Bought up most of their stuff,
They thought me a drunkard,
Who just can’t get enough.

I kept up the pretense,
Who gets gas for that price?
They called me the town drunk,
I just thought it was nice!

Then one day I got busted,
They discovered my game,
For some reason they’re angry,
Now it can’t be the same.

I got the I can’t Be the Town Drunk Anymore ‘Cause I Got Run Outta Town Blues!
Ain’t nobody gonna give me nothin’ but the tips of their shoes!
As they kick and they fight,
Til I’m clear outta sight,
They don’t want me takin’ up their time or their booze!

NicknamedBob. . . . September 27, 2005

41 posted on 04/19/2006 3:53:31 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (I don't want a World with empty dreams ... Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty Now!...Farm Mars!)
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Opinions?
42 posted on 04/19/2006 4:00:36 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SierraWasp

Darn, and I thought it was the EVIL oil companies that rasied prices. Socialism never works


48 posted on 04/19/2006 5:45:09 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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SmartMoney.com
Tripping Out

By Ray Hennessey
April 18, 2006

"VACATION'S ALL I ever wanted," the great philosopher and humanitarian Belinda Carlisle once said. "Vacation, have to get away."

Now's the time of year when Wall Street analysts tell us summer effectively has been cancelled. This time round, the culprit is oil, which is topping $71 a barrel. That, in turn, has helped drive prices of gasoline higher. That's causing sticker shock, so much so that you, the American consumer, will be loath to fill up your tanks and go off on vacation. In fact, you'll probably just stay at home. Luckily you filled up the air-raid bunker in your basement with Yoo-Hoo and Glenmorangie when you were worried about the Millennium Bug back in '99.

Rubbish.

Are gas prices a problem? You bet. I own a Saturn, a boring one that does nothing to increase my dating rating but certainly doesn't burn fuel like a Hummer. Still, I raise my eyebrows and whistle when I see what I'm paying to fill up my tank. No doubt the airlines will struggle with higher jet-fuel costs. (Luckily, there's never been a problem that industry couldn't handle with skill, grace and intelligence.... Oh, even I can't finish that sentence without giggling like a toddler.) Cruise lines will pay through the nose, too. In fact, any industry that uses oil-based fuels will have to pay more, and that cost will be passed along to you and me.

But will we really not pay? Will a trip to Au Bon Pain replace the flight to Paris? Of course not. As a people, we Americans relish in our vacations. We don't quite carve out the time for vacations like the French and Germans do, but, then again, with the state of their labor markets, their vacations really don't count. One has to hold a job to qualify for a holiday.

Yet, Americans are big on vacation. We work hard and we play hard (or so the beer commercials tell us). We do it with the same aggressiveness we use to do everything else. All-you-can-eat buffets on cruises are not an opportunity, but a dare. We develop strategies for beating the lines at Six Flags that can outfox the brightest brass at the Pentagon. We own Winnebagoes larger than our homes.

So, a spike in gas prices isn't going to stop us. It's just going to make it more expensive. And you and I both know we're going to pay it. Why? Because it ain't that much. Let's face it, even if there were a $20 surcharge on your airline ticket, is that really enough to tell the kids that we're cancelling the vacation to Europe and will instead play Clue until Mommy hits Daddy over the head with a candlestick in the billiard room? We just have to dig a bit deeper, but dig we'll do — in our wallets and on the sand in the O.C.

The reasons for telling you this are twofold. First, from a personal-finance perspective, it's a great time to rework the sums on the back of your envelope to factor in the higher prices. You'll pay more for fuel, and you'll pay more for other things. Plan to deal with it. Save a little more each week. You can handle it.

From an investing perspective, you'd be wise to ignore the chatter that these prices will dampen summer travel. Last year, analysts suggested staying away from companies leveraged to leisure travel. If you did that, you would've missed a nice run-up in Carnival (CCL1) and Royal Caribbean Cruises (RCL2) from the spring through the summer. In fact, once most people figured out that the gloom-and-doom predictions for summer travel weren't playing out, it was too late: The money had been made and investors bailed on travel stocks. That pattern isn't guaranteed to happen this year, but it certainly could. Many of the same themes from 2005 are being muttered about now: high oil, strife in the Middle East, rising interest rates, a spat between Simon Cowell and Ryan Seacrest. Companies dealt with all that just fine last year. They can do it again now.

Finally, this is a great chance to take yet another swipe at conventional wisdom. In investing, it almost never holds, nor is it often profitable. It's the contrarian view that often leads to the biggest gains. While other investors are placing bets on a slowdown in the economy by getting defensive, it may be worth taking a look at the companies leveraged to discretionary spending. That's where the bargains will be found, I'd wager.

Of course, I might not be around to see if the theory plays out. I'll be on holiday.
3 Ray Hennessey is editor of SmartMoney.com. Email him at rhennessey@smartmoney.com4.



URL for this article:
http://yahoo.smartmoney.com/editorspage/index.cfm?story=20060418


49 posted on 04/19/2006 5:51:28 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Why not just have the oil companies make ethanol from ethanne gas and water, as I proposed back in the mid-80's? There is plenty of ethane in natural gas that we can use to make as much drinking alcohol as we want! Tank up our cars, and ourselves...on BP or Shell Vodka!


61 posted on 04/19/2006 11:04:56 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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We'll be remembering $3 gasoline with fondness, and fifty years from now when we tell our grandchildren they won't believe any of it.


65 posted on 04/19/2006 6:49:56 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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68 posted on 04/19/2006 11:33:55 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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