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Ariz. Gov. Vetoes Criminal Immigrant Bill
Associated Press ^ | Apr 18 11:08 AM US/Eastern | JACQUES BILLEAUD

Posted on 04/18/2006 10:18:22 AM PDT by BradtotheBone

Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have criminalized the presence of illegal immigrants in Arizona, citing opposition from police agencies that want immigration arrests to remain the responsibility of the federal government.

The proposal would have expanded the state's trespassing law to let local authorities arrest illegal immigrants anywhere in Arizona, the nation's busiest illegal entry point. Congress also had considered criminalizing the presence of illegal immigrants in the country.

In a letter to lawmakers, Napolitano said she opposes automatically turning all immigrants who sneaked into the state into criminals and that the bill provided no funding for the new duties.

"It is unfortunate that the Legislature has once again ignored the officials who are most directly affected by illegal immigration and instead has passed yet another bill that will have no effect on the problem but that will impose an unfunded burden on law enforcement," Napolitano wrote Monday.

Supporters said the bill would have given Arizona a chance to get a handle on its vast border problems by providing a second layer of enforcement to catch the tens of thousands of immigrants who slip past federal agents each year.

Republican Sen. Barbara Leff of Paradise Valley, who proposed the bill, said the governor has painted herself as tough on illegal immigration by declaring a state of emergency at Arizona's border, but has taken little action to back up her rhetoric.

"I don't think the governor wants to do anything about this problem," Leff said. She said the bill would have been a means to detain illegal immigrants until federal agents can pick them up.

The Democratic governor, accused by her Republican critics of being soft on immigration, has vetoed other immigration bills from the GOP- majority Legislature within the past year, including a proposal to give police the power to enforce federal immigration laws.

While immigrants provide the economy with cheap labor, Arizona spends tens of millions of dollars each year in health care and education costs for illegal workers and their families. An estimated 500,000 of the state's population of about 6 million are illegal immigrants.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: alien; aliens; borderlist; illegalimmigrant; napolitano
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To: BradtotheBone

Oh, this is a hoot. Notice how the AP downplayed this ?

"Arizona spends tens of millions of dollars each year in health care and education costs for illegal workers and their families."

Not "tens of millions", more like "billions". The AP wants to SOUND like it has given both sides of the issue, but ends on this note, downplaying the real cost to the taxpayer by orders of magnitude. Just the children of illegals in Arizona are probably costing $3B in public education, school lunch programs, etc.

That money saved -- plus imposing serious fines on employers of illegals -- should provide plenty of funding for law enforcement to drop them off across the border. Behind the shiny new fence Arizona, California, and Texas should build themselves rather than waiting on the Feds.

Remember, the MINIMUM expected of a lawbreaker is to make restitution for the money involved. For employers, that means the fines should be AT LEAST an amount equal to the monetary benefit they received from the illegal workers labor. That would be the difference between what the illegal cost them and what a legal worker would have cost them.

Let them come back legally by going to the back of the line of those already waiting. If a deportee comes back illegally, the second time they are caught should result in a mandatory term of one year at hard labor before being deported.


41 posted on 04/18/2006 10:57:16 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: kiriath_jearim; mlc9852; HiJinx
That too...but in the construction trades here in AZ they get paid prevailing wages, i.e. in the range of $10-$15 per hour, depending on their trade and experience...plus plenty of overtime if they want it. They make a very good living here compared to "whence they came".

True story. I had a patient, a small 31 y.o woman come into our clinic for treatment a couple of weeks ago.

A few months ago, she did some serious damage to her shoulder, that possibly will warrant surgery to repair it.

She did it while using a jackhammer. This woman, was not much bigger than a jackhammer herself!

When I joked with her about that, she told me that there wasn't enough money in the housekeeping or cleaning jobs, so she opted to work in construction to support her kids.

42 posted on 04/18/2006 10:58:28 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: mlc9852

When you start having people making citizens arrests on a daily basis and personally handcuffing people...the feds will likely drag themselves out of the mess they have. Thats the only way this will change. The president and congress simply don't want the laws to work, and the border patrol dimwits simply want a financial empire...with no real work. Unless you hand this job to the military...thats the only way things will show immedate improvement.


43 posted on 04/18/2006 11:00:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: BradtotheBone; All
Remember people. They are not illegal immigrants. They are illegal aliens.

They can also be called "un-uniformed enemy combatants" But that's a bit wordy sometimes.

44 posted on 04/18/2006 11:01:12 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: MNJohnnie

I don't know.


45 posted on 04/18/2006 11:01:36 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: annelizly
You're right.

It's a stupid statement.

46 posted on 04/18/2006 11:02:09 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: kstewskis

Just dang! Got to admire that kind of attitude.


47 posted on 04/18/2006 11:02:28 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: awb2121

I too am noticing local and state work being done by illegals. Our own local and state governments refusing to obey the law. Who would have thunk?


48 posted on 04/18/2006 11:03:25 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Sir Gawain

The State of Georgia just passed such a law that would punish businesses that hire illegals.


49 posted on 04/18/2006 11:04:42 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Kellis91789

Another thing I like about Don Goldwater's approach to the illegal problem, is he wants to take illegals being deported and put them in a tent city on the border so that THEY can build the wall.

Ha ha....illegals, building the wall that American's won't. I like it.


50 posted on 04/18/2006 11:06:15 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Gov't solution to invasion=band aid. What we need is to fix the leak, before we clean up the mess.)
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To: BradtotheBone
Did anyone really believe she wouldn't?
51 posted on 04/18/2006 11:07:48 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: NY Attitude

"The State of Georgia just passed such a law that would punish businesses that hire illegals."

Best news I've heard here on FR. All the newspapers and other media should make it front-page news, across the nation...


52 posted on 04/18/2006 11:08:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: clawrence3

States can enforce federal law.


53 posted on 04/18/2006 11:09:02 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: pepsionice

I keep hearing from my other half, that this problem is not going to be fixed until a civil (race) war happens and people start crossing the line and deaths occur. I hope that doesn't happen, but it makes you wonder where this is headed, when our own government, no one, is willing to stand up for this country and protect our borders from invasion. :(


54 posted on 04/18/2006 11:09:04 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Gov't solution to invasion=band aid. What we need is to fix the leak, before we clean up the mess.)
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To: mlc9852
You know, I admit, I had to hand it to her. (personally I'd rather be outside with the guys than inside with a bunch of hens, but that's just me, lol)

She did this back in November, and put up with her pain for several months before seeking, (or even being aware of putting in) a workers comp claim. She evidently is a good, hard worker, so her employer sent her to our clinic for medical attention.

There are those few my hat goes off to. This is a good reason we need solid reform, so that these folks can come in here and work leagally, along with a system where can weed out the criminals and freeloaders at the same time.

55 posted on 04/18/2006 11:09:51 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: Vaquero
I hope Joe Arpaio runs against here and beats her.

Joe will never get elected to Governor.

56 posted on 04/18/2006 11:10:56 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Borax Queen; Czar
Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have criminalized the presence of illegal immigrants in Arizona, citing....

Excuses.

57 posted on 04/18/2006 11:12:14 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Lucky9teen

HELL Ya! That statement got me started listening to him and I believe that is where my vote is going the November...


58 posted on 04/18/2006 11:13:35 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: kiriath_jearim

"they get paid prevailing wages"

You mean those wages that have been distorted by the availability of cheap non-taxpaying workers ?


59 posted on 04/18/2006 11:14:58 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: nicmarlo

Unfortunately, our local paper, "Arizona Rebukes the Public" is completely on our lousy Governor's side, so we're getting only what she wants the public to hear. Watch out for her, if she wins in November here in Arizona, she'll move up to Washington within 2 years and become Hillary's running mate! (tweedle dee and tweedle dum!)


60 posted on 04/18/2006 11:15:31 AM PDT by princess leah
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