Posted on 04/18/2006 10:18:22 AM PDT by BradtotheBone
Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have criminalized the presence of illegal immigrants in Arizona, citing opposition from police agencies that want immigration arrests to remain the responsibility of the federal government.
The proposal would have expanded the state's trespassing law to let local authorities arrest illegal immigrants anywhere in Arizona, the nation's busiest illegal entry point. Congress also had considered criminalizing the presence of illegal immigrants in the country.
In a letter to lawmakers, Napolitano said she opposes automatically turning all immigrants who sneaked into the state into criminals and that the bill provided no funding for the new duties.
"It is unfortunate that the Legislature has once again ignored the officials who are most directly affected by illegal immigration and instead has passed yet another bill that will have no effect on the problem but that will impose an unfunded burden on law enforcement," Napolitano wrote Monday.
Supporters said the bill would have given Arizona a chance to get a handle on its vast border problems by providing a second layer of enforcement to catch the tens of thousands of immigrants who slip past federal agents each year.
Republican Sen. Barbara Leff of Paradise Valley, who proposed the bill, said the governor has painted herself as tough on illegal immigration by declaring a state of emergency at Arizona's border, but has taken little action to back up her rhetoric.
"I don't think the governor wants to do anything about this problem," Leff said. She said the bill would have been a means to detain illegal immigrants until federal agents can pick them up.
The Democratic governor, accused by her Republican critics of being soft on immigration, has vetoed other immigration bills from the GOP- majority Legislature within the past year, including a proposal to give police the power to enforce federal immigration laws.
While immigrants provide the economy with cheap labor, Arizona spends tens of millions of dollars each year in health care and education costs for illegal workers and their families. An estimated 500,000 of the state's population of about 6 million are illegal immigrants.
You are wrong. My position is exactly as stated in Post 62.
So if I have a citizen employee who does not have auto insurance, the police should come and arrest me.
"It is unfortunate that the Legislature (governor) has once again ignored the officials (citizens) who are most directly affected by illegal immigration ..."
True colors...
I'm afraid what we're going to have to do is help the ranchers wall off their own property. Not that it's going to be easy.
How many uneducated, non-english speaking migrants are getting valid green cards anyway? Seems to me it should be simple. If one of these underfed little mestizos hands you a green card or a SS card, it's fake.
They will arrest the citizens and let the ilegales go. That's been tried plenty of times.
Sheriff Joe has it down. If they don't want to go out and work on the wall, or they want to misbehave, they can sit there in the tent all day and swelter with nothing to do. Inmates vie for the opportunity to go out on Sherrif Joe's chain gangs just for something to do.
According to the Geneva Convention these are known as SPIES and can be EXECUTED.
Sucker Twins.
Especially immigration laws....local cops here in Miami do this all the time.
Speaking of chain gangs, why can't we have these guys and others like them, do the work that Americans don't want to do?
We're already paying money for them, why not put them to work and let them work off their sentence instead of sitting in a cell doing nothing.
This would seem to kill 2 birds with one stone - rid us of needing illegals to "work here" (yeah right) and put our tax dollars to work (literally). Not to mention all the money it would save us as well.
Nooooo.... illegaly depressed wages stifle the innovation that would create the machine that could replace 10 workers. Don't spin this.
"What are the current penalties for employing illegals?"
http://uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statistics/standards/stdfdef.htm (See Employer Sanctions)
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju21911.000/hju21911_0f.htm (See congress critters hard at work)
They'll whack your pee-pee then take away your birthday.
I'm not spinning. Read post 62. This is my position. I think the "restitution" argument is a bad one.
That is all.
: )
I thought the states were required to enforce federal laws. Even if they weren't, the feds can cut off funding. But they're so infiltrated that you can't count on them for nuthin.
Hell, they're mostly ilegales anyway. Let them work for food. BTW, Sherriff Joe spends 15 cents a day per inmate for food.
Between Sheriff Joe's policies and Don Goldwaters ideas, hey, we could really crack down on these invaders and set a new policy on how to handle ILLEGAL immigration.
I don't mind immigrants. I'm all for it. Just LEGALLY.
Within post 62, QUOTE: Here if an illegal does not use govt. services, no one has suffered a loss.
That IS justifying illegals working here, as it is overlooking the victims of their presence. As Kellis91789 stated in post #83:
All the other employees that suffered a depressed wage are victims of the employer's action. All the people that paid higher auto-insurance because illegals didn't are victims. All the people that paid higher health-care costs because illegals used private hospital emergency rooms without paying are victims.There are a myriad of ways that these employers have shifted a monetary burden onto society at large [therefore, making ALL LEGAL CITIZENS/TAXPAYERS VICTIMS], not just government-provided services.
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