[Bahbah]

Tony says the budget used to be boring. Pence says the nat'l debt has doubled in the last 5 years. Over 8 trillion now. We can't keep spending the way we have. (Must leave to help dog go out.)

[Mo1]

We can't keep spending the way we have.

He's right

[Bahbah]

They want names on the earmarks and votes on the floor on these projects. The leadership has agreed to the reforms, but another group balked. Tony asks about Hamas and the homicide bombing in Tel Aviv. Qatar and the UAE had given millions to Hamas. Are we taking our eye off the ball in the Middle East. Pence doesn't think so. Mentions a piece by Henry Hyde. Democracy is not a sufficient remedy. Hamas called the bombing justifiable. When you do not respect human life, democracy just becomes a vehicle for this sort of thing. (He said it much better.)

[Eagle of Liberty]

Over 8 trillion now.

There is a guy challenging Dewine in Ohio. His name is Bill Pierce.

He had a good comment on the radio the other day. He said that "It took us 6 years to go from 5 trillion to 6 trillion. And it took us two years to go from 6 to 7. And it took us a single year to go from 7 to 8 and we're on a glidepath to get to 9 in less than a year. As a math geek, I'll tell you that is not a linear progression; that's an exponential function. And it is incredibly troubling to me."