[don-o]

Arguing with you and Don about this is like arguing with a mother-in-law who thinks Clinton was a great president.

Do we want to discuss this on the thread? I seldom post and do not wish to hijack it. Don't know the customs. I could ping Mrs. Dono-o. She is much smarter and more articulate than I am.

I will say that you can have women priests. Join the Episcopalians. Or start your own denomination. You are free to do so. But, the Catholic and Orthodox churches can't ordain women. They would cease to be, at a very deep and mysterious level, what they have historically claimed to be.

[eeevil conservative]

I have no problem discussing this on the thread...

it is very political and educational.....it is the very essence of the entire war in politics that the Dems are awaging-- destroying the Christian religion...eater it down.. make it fit their platform- so they can not be called what they are....HETHANS!

not to mention it IS Easter Sunday....

debate away.. just remember- HE IS RISEN!!!!

JMHO

[don-o]

Wanna wade in here, my dear? This is a traditional Sunday thread. Flame free. And smart folks post here.

Question is raised on the ordination of women to the priesthood. I took a couple of shots.

[altura]

I've shut up now.

Thanks be to God.

(said it first)

[Phsstpok]

you can have women priests. Join the Episcopalians. Or start your own denomination. You are free to do so. But, the Catholic and Orthodox churches can't ordain women. They would cease to be, at a very deep and mysterious level, what they have historically claimed to be.

ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

This is the part of controversies like this that I always have trouble with.  "Being Catholic" has always meant to me buying the whole bit, papal infallability, trans substantiation, etcetera, etcetera.  There are plenty of others houses in which to worship if you disagree.  Don't make the Catholic church change to match your beliefs if they differ from what the Catholic church says its beliefs are.

Now, having said that, I agree that there is a place within any community, the Catholic church included, for discussion of such issues.  The church (should that be capitalized?) has been doing this since day one.  It's where the great dialogues and amazing writings came from and the church has modified it's position on any number of issues, over time.  But to claim that a "protest" should suffice to get the church, any church, to change fundamental beliefs strikes me as silly and counterproductive.

Everyone should read people like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas.  And I have just begun to discover the wonderful body of work by Pope John Paul II.  I'm not a Catholic.  In fact I don't belong to any church (bad experiences with churches on both the right and the left in my younger days, so I'm very cynical about institutions run by men), but I take great joy when I find beautifully written and well thought out arguments on the great questions.

Of course, I also really like my Heinlein.

Blessed Easter to all.