Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Another fishy missing link
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 04/15/2006 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/15/2006 11:37:52 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

Another fishy missing link

Posted: April 15, 2006

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

It's been a week since the scientific world went gaga over a fish called "Tiktaalik," which is being billed as the missing link between water and land animals.

The paleontoligists say the fossils they date to 383 million years ago show how land creatures first arose from the sea.

Tiktaalik, they say, lived in shallow swampy waters and had the body of a fish but the jaws, ribs and limb-like fins of so-called "early mammals."

"Tiktaalik represents a transitory creature between water and land," explained Farish Jenkins Jr. of Harvard University, one of the discovery team members. "Really, it's extraordinary. We found a fish with a neck."

Martin Brazeau of Sweden's Uppsala University said Tiktaalik is "unquestionably" the most land-animal-like fish known to date.

"Just over 380 million years ago, it seems, our remote ancestors were large, flattish, predatory fishes, with crocodile-like heads and strong limb-like pectoral fins that enabled them to haul themselves out of the water," explained Per Erik Ahlberg of Uppsala and Jennifer Clark of the University of Cambridge, in a commentary accompanying their report in the journal Nature.

As the New York Times reported the find, the fish has characteristics that "anticipate the emergence of land animals – and is thus a predecessor of amphibians, reptiles and dinosaurs."

I'm glad these evolutionists are so giddy about finding one of their ancestors, but before we all go off the deep end about this latest discovery, understand what all the excitement is about.

For years, those who disbelieve in macro-evolution – people like me – have been saying to the evolutionists, "Show us evidence of one kind of creature becoming another kind." They haven't been able to do it – not with all the fossils they've studied and certainly not in their scientific observations of the world in which we live.

Tiktaalik is their best shot.

But let me tell you why it is most definitely not what the evolutionists suggest it is.

There is another fish called the "coelacanth." Ever hear of it? I've included a photo of one with this column – which, when you think about it, is really quite amazing. Because, just a few years ago, the same scientists who were calling the Tiktaalik fossil the missing link between sea life and land life were claiming the coelacanth fossils of the same era represented just that link.

Coelacanth

But, then, unfortunately for the evolutionists, coelacanths – these "350-million-year-old fossils" – turned out to be very much alive. They turned up regularly in fish markets. Today they live in aquariums – not terrariums – by the way.

The coelacanth has the same kind of lobe fins as the Tiktaalik. The fossil experts told us they enabled the coelacanth to walk on the ocean floor. However, none have yet been observed walking. Instead, they use those lobe fins to swim better, not walk.

Like those of the coelacanth, the bones in the fins of the Tiktaalik are embedded in muscle – not part of the skeleton.

In other words, there is a whole lot of supposing going on about the Tiktaalik that is reminiscent of the kind of supposing that has gone on for as long as evolutionary theory has been around.

The Tiktaalik is no more a missing link between sea life and land life than a Tic Tac is a missing link between a Lifesaver and an Altoid.

Notice not one of the stories you have read about the Tiktaalik has confronted the sensationally uncomfortable issues raised by the coelacanth.

We don't know that the Tiktaalik lived 383 million years ago. We don't know that it used its unusual fins to walk. We don't know that it ever left the water. We don't even know for sure that it is extinct today. And we sure don't know that it represents any link between one species and another.

We simply don't know what we don't know. And I sure wish those who called themselves scientists would just admit that.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: coelacanth; creationistmorons; evokooks; evolutionaryidiots; getinyourark; idjunkscience; missinglink; tiktaalik
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-43 next last

1 posted on 04/15/2006 11:37:53 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
"Tiktaalik, they say, lived in shallow swampy waters and had the body of a fish but the jaws, ribs and limb-like fins of so-called "early mammals."" ---

****

Yoi, another Janet Reno Alert.

2 posted on 04/15/2006 11:40:30 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Oh, for the days when "disrespect" was just a noun.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
ROFLOL! More desperate junk science from the evo kooks.

It's beyond me why they think that they are so 'learned' and smarter than the rest of us, when they fall all over themselves for this fairytale NONSENSE again and again?

3 posted on 04/15/2006 11:45:08 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AmericaUnited
More desperate junk science from the evo kooks.

Actually the posted article is the junk science.

4 posted on 04/15/2006 11:50:12 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Good reporting- but where's the pictures?


5 posted on 04/15/2006 11:51:28 AM PDT by LinnieBeth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman

If it is incorrect- please educate us.


6 posted on 04/15/2006 11:52:28 AM PDT by LinnieBeth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: LinnieBeth
If it is incorrect- please educate us.

There have been several threads on this discovery already, including on based on a Wall Street Journal article.

I suggest you take a look through those. The science is a lot sounder.

7 posted on 04/15/2006 11:54:31 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: LinnieBeth
Good reporting- but where's the pictures?

I am not computer savy enough to do this. Click on the link and you can see the pics. Better still, help us by taking the picture from the link and posting it here in this thread.

Thanks.
8 posted on 04/15/2006 11:54:42 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
"....confronted the sensationally uncomfortable issues raised by the coelacanth."

Which are?

Do you suppose that an ancient animal must have evolved over time simply because it is old? Reptiles like turtles and alligators predate dinosaurs and are in many cases largely unchanged over time. This is simply because there is still a niche for them in the current environment. Evolution is driven by natural selection. If the environment for a coelacanth or a turtle or a crocodillian is hospitable enough it will have no need to evolve.

9 posted on 04/15/2006 11:56:02 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LinnieBeth
The thread I referenced is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1610794/posts

10 posted on 04/15/2006 12:05:21 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
I suppose it might be what some scientists claim it is ... but if it was predatory [and not in the sense of eating tiny critters with a large body and its crocodile like jaws] what did its descendants eat when they completely left the water to forage on land? A walking fish might be very well adapted to short jaunts between isolated pools in the dry season, but that doesn't mean that it isn't still a fish.

BTW, I think the author of this article has also overstated his case in regard to the coelacanth. A better example might have been what is referred to as the Asian walking catfish which can and regularly does [as a species] take short strolls.

11 posted on 04/15/2006 12:06:46 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Monihan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
There is a theory that the missing link in hominid development was the "aquatic ape". Since this ape lived in and around the water like "mer people" there would be no archeolgical evidence on land. However, some of our aquatic adaptation survive.

When you look at a gorilla you notice that its nose is two vertical slits while our noses are hooded, (the nostrils are covered). The ability to hold our breath and dive to great depths like whales and dolphins are environmental adaptations which point to an aquatic lifestyle.

Goole it and learn more!!

12 posted on 04/15/2006 12:30:19 PM PDT by Young Werther
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

So the creationists only defense here is to point at the Coelacanth YET AGAIN?

Yawn


13 posted on 04/15/2006 1:02:56 PM PDT by SengirV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Artist's conception of Tiktaalik:

14 posted on 04/15/2006 1:39:06 PM PDT by Sender (“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.” – Old Chinese proverb)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: R W Reactionairy
what did its descendants eat when they completely left the water to forage on land?

The land invertebrates. Snails, slugs, spiders, insects and other arachnids.

15 posted on 04/15/2006 1:44:50 PM PDT by null and void (Pay no attention to the imam behind the curtain...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

16 posted on 04/15/2006 1:47:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
"Evolution by natural selection , . . . which Charles Darwin originally conceived as a great theory, has lately come to function more as an antitheory, called upon to cover up embarrassing experimental shortcomings and legitimize findings findings that are at best questionable and at worst not even wrong. Your protein defies the laws of mass action? Evolution did it! Your complicated mess of chemical reactions turns into a chicken? Evolution! The human brain works on logical principles no computer can emulate? Evolution is the cause!

"Sometimes one hears it argued that the issue is moot because biochemistry is a fact-based discipline for which theories are neither helpful nor wanted. The argument is false, for theories are needed for formulating experiments. Biology has plenty of theories. they are just not discussed--or scrutinized--in public. The ostensibly noble repudiation of theoretical prejudice is, in fact, a cleverly disguised antitheory, whose actual function is to evade the requirement for logical consistency as a means of eliminating falsehood. We often ask ourselves nowadays whether evolution is an engineer or a magician--a discoverer and exploiter of preexisting physical principles or a worker of miracles--but we shouldn't. The former is theory, the latter is antitheory."

Robert B. Laughlin, A Different Universe--Reinventing Physics from the Bottom Down, (Basic Books, New York, 2006) pp. 168-170.

(Dr. Laughlin is no creationist. He is a Stanford University professor who won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1998.)

17 posted on 04/15/2006 2:49:13 PM PDT by JCEccles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beyond the sea
I'll trust what actual scientists and especially biologists say about the tiktaalik.

They're a bit more knowledgable about thses kinds of things than World Nut Daily and Pat Buchanan wannabe Joesph Farrah.

18 posted on 04/15/2006 2:59:55 PM PDT by Deadshot Drifter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Junior

Archive


19 posted on 04/15/2006 3:09:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

Comment #20 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-43 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson