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1 posted on 04/15/2006 5:39:51 AM PDT by ncountylee
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Seems funny being on the same side as Sweeney.


2 posted on 04/15/2006 5:42:17 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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talk about "tyranny of the minority" - unions only represent about 13% of the total workforce.
3 posted on 04/15/2006 5:42:50 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: ncountylee

OOps....here come da unions!

If they can't organize...better NOBODY organize! hee.hee.


4 posted on 04/15/2006 5:43:30 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Illegal Aliens....STFU!)
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AFL-CIO President John Sweeney says guest-worker programs supported by top Democrats such as Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and Dianne Feinstein are a "bad idea and harm all workers."

It took you long enough........sheeesh had to think about it did ya'???

5 posted on 04/15/2006 5:47:18 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()......The Media is not Mainstream, stop calling them that........()
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To: ncountylee

Unions in general should be in favor of amnesty or anything that makes it easier for immigrants to become naturalized because that repreesents a bigger pool of employees likely to be in unions.

The guest worker program doesn't offer that option.


6 posted on 04/15/2006 5:50:22 AM PDT by randita
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To: ncountylee
The libs are, as usual, on the wrong side of the issue. And if the Republicans do not get it right, they deserve to have two years of misery with a Democrat House and Senate.

Secure the borders and then deal with the illegals.

The great majority of Americans - moderates and independents and conservatives - strongly oppose amnesty and "gift" citizenship and will vote for candidates supporting border enforcement and citizenship truly earned.

7 posted on 04/15/2006 5:50:32 AM PDT by TheGeezer (I.will.never.vote.for.John.McCain.)
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To: ncountylee
Sounds like a Dem quagmire. They ticked off the Unions with their "no logging" and "no drilling in Alaska",too.

We have an oldtime company closing here in Upstate NY with 200 employees. The sign says: "Moving to Mexico".

One of these days, Mexico will simply say: "We'd like to become the next state in the USA.....and hand us ALL the problems they refuse to deal with.

8 posted on 04/15/2006 5:51:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ncountylee
Any guest worker should have an expiration date tattooed on his forehead.
10 posted on 04/15/2006 5:56:08 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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"This is the corporate strategy in this country now, and Congress seems to be embracing it," Sen. Byron L. Dorgan, North Dakota Democrat, told CNN's Lou Dobbs last week.

"The corporate strategy is export good American jobs and then import cheap labor," he said. "That might be good corporate strategy, but in my judgment, it's not good for the American worker."

Hey Byron take a look at a non-union Toyota plant in Indiana.

PRINCETON, Ind. — Janet Greenwell and her husband, Richard, scraped by for years. Now they live in a 4,000-square-foot brick house, their income has grown 40 percent and Janet can stay home to care for their two kids. Their improved lifestyle descended upon them like a pale white spaceship, which is exactly what Toyota's massive auto plant looks like and where Richard Greenwell now works. "You feel as if you just hit the lottery and you are blessed," she said. The existence of the auto plant, plopped in the middle of a windswept cornfield, separates this southwest corner of Indiana from a state battered by factory closings. The plant also separates this area from much of the Midwest, which is in the midst of yet another painful retrenchment of the unionized auto industry, perhaps the greatest downsizing in Detroit's history

15 posted on 04/15/2006 6:06:20 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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A dedicated Teamsters union worker was attending a convention in Las
Vegas and decided to check out the local brothels. When he got to the
first one, he asked the Madam, "Is this a union house?"

"No," she replied, "I'm sorry, it isn't."

"Well, if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?"

"The house gets $80 and the girls get $20," she answered.

Mightily offended at such unfair dealings, the union man stomped off
down the street in search of a more equitable, hopefully unionized
shop.
His search continued until finally he reached a brothel where the
Madam responded, "Why yes sir, this is a union house. We observe all
union rules."

The man asked, "And if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get? "
The girls get $80 and the house gets $20."

That's more like it," the union man said. He handed the Madam $100,
looked around the room, and pointed to a stunningly attractive blonde.
"I'd like her," he said.

I'm sure you would, sir," said the Madam. Then she gestured to a
92-year old woman in the corner, "but Ethel here has 67 years seniority
and according to union rules, she's next."


16 posted on 04/15/2006 6:10:13 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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On April 6 6 Sweeney made the remarks cited in this story.

Apr 6 6 - Guest worker proposals divide America's unions

"Guest worker programs are a bad idea and harm all workers," AFL-CIO President John Sweeney said in a written statement. "They cast workers into a perennial second-class status."

By April 10 6 apparently Democrat elites got to Sweeney to force him to change his public posture on illegal aliens.

Apr 10 6 - Throngs rally for immigrants

Others speaking at the rally included Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington; Janet Murguia, president of the National Council of La Raza; and John Sweeney, president of the AFL-CIO.

"We all hope," Sweeney said. "We all love. We all dream. We all worship. We all work. We all have rights."

IMHO Sweeney genuinely articulated rank-and-file positions at first but then flip-floped under Democrat elite pressure. It seems disingenuous for the Wash Times to continue using Sweeney's genuine original position in light of his subsequent flip-flop.
17 posted on 04/15/2006 6:16:27 AM PDT by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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The unions will continue to die regardless of illegals. They cannot compete (see GM, Delphi, etc.) in a free market- except the gubmint unions, of course.


20 posted on 04/15/2006 6:27:51 AM PDT by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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Union Leaders Boo McCain on Illegal Immigration

22 posted on 04/15/2006 6:53:04 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta (A man's first duty is to his honor and conscience.)
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Let's not get too excited until we see if Sweeney is trying to form Illegals Local 101...


24 posted on 04/15/2006 7:21:41 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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"They cast workers into a perennial second-class status and unfairly put their fates into their employers' hands," said Mr. Sweeney, whose organization represents 13 million workers in 54 unions.

The unions would agree to second-class status for illegals as long as they are the overseers.

26 posted on 04/15/2006 7:47:28 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: ncountylee

I'm amazed that the unions have their heads this much above sea level.

They have been way in the same camp as Blacks, just campaigning hugely for dems, who have done NOTHING for them.

Unions were against NAFTA; dems didn't even pretend to fight it.

The dems are not really for working people and sometimes I think the union leadership is not either.


28 posted on 04/15/2006 8:01:33 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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This division will grow and fester as the Sweeney side ( AFL-CIO) struggles against the Stern/Hoffa side the SEIU and other already broken away unions. Nothing that can possibly come from this can be helpful to the Democrats. One of these sides will have to make a sharp break away to the anti illegal alien side. The Democrats are already stuck on the pro illegals side. Of course Sweeney will never support a Republican so he will likely support no one in November. That will hurt the Democrats. The SEIU can not U turn and support the Democrats all out because that was the main issue in their split to begin with. If they did just start automatically supporting Democrats, the purpose of their break away would be defeated and the will come off as mere opportunists.


29 posted on 04/15/2006 10:07:31 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
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