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1 posted on 04/15/2006 5:27:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Today Show/NewsBusters ping.


2 posted on 04/15/2006 5:28:40 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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Today Show/NewsBusters ping.


3 posted on 04/15/2006 5:28:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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glgb, a great report -- thank you very much!   Could you please put me on your ping list?   Thanks.
4 posted on 04/15/2006 5:36:41 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops. Our thanks to each and every one of you!)
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Holt's performance this morning was typical of his standards of down-the-middle journalism that others at Today and NBC would do well to emulate.

Katie is doing just fine shilling for the left. If you want to go far in this business, you must be a complete leftist whore.

6 posted on 04/15/2006 5:37:14 AM PDT by Always Right
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And that semblance of objective interviewing is why someone like Lester does not qualify as a weekday anchor when people are actually watching the Today show.


8 posted on 04/15/2006 5:39:01 AM PDT by soloNYer
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Yet had this been retired generals and admirals critical of Clinton, Gore or Kerry in time of war, the vast majority on this forum would be applauding the actions of the "brave military men and sailors coming forward with the abuses of the military". Frankly, go back to Bosnia and you would probably see that type of support.

We can't have it both ways folks.

9 posted on 04/15/2006 5:41:59 AM PDT by joesbucks
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I can hardly believe this actually aired. Thanks for helping by posting.


10 posted on 04/15/2006 5:43:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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WTG Lester. Reading the interview was refreshing. When the press is so clearly biased (as with Ms. Couric) I tend to discount any critisism because the bias is so clear. This is dangerous- even with policies I support and believe in- there is always room to improve and learn. Without reasonable critisism that process can't happen.

IF there were more interviews like this both sides might find themselves educated and informed rather than threatening to throw the tv out the window.


12 posted on 04/15/2006 5:48:44 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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I don't know where Lester Holt stands politically. It's to his credit that I can say that. I don't know how he gets away with it at that network, except that he's so good in all the other aspects of the job too. Maybe he's a lib off the air but has the ability to display fairness when on the job (i.e. "professional").


13 posted on 04/15/2006 5:51:38 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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Wayne Downing gives greater context by examining the possible motives of those calling for Rumsfeld's head.

Yet, he does not come close to providing the context given by a typical FreeRepublic thread on these contradictory, Monday morning Generalizers.

Thanks for witnessing Main Stream Propaganda's obituary.


15 posted on 04/15/2006 5:58:02 AM PDT by PGalt
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Where were these guy found? Were they random phone calls made by the MSM and if so, how many other retired generals were solicited but told the MSM to F-off?

Its becoming more clear each and every day that the MSM now has to "Create" news rather than just report....

16 posted on 04/15/2006 5:58:11 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I wish Jack Bauer would stop yelling.....)
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Great job bringing us the Today info. Last night I worked and heard many of the patient's TVs on CNN. It was none stop get Rummy analysis. The lies were maddening. But, to most of those who watch, this was the truth. The constant comparisons to McNamara from Johnson's Vietnam is all they heard.


17 posted on 04/15/2006 5:59:07 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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I just sent Lester an e-mail commending his interview.


19 posted on 04/15/2006 6:02:12 AM PDT by freedom4me
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A must read, keep for your records.

The Hidden History of the Iraq War Critics
April 14th, 2006
http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5414

From little hooded monk (comments)

'The carping critics erect a rhetorical, if not imaginary, entity so they can bash it with charges of ''not enough troops'' and other hindsight insight.'

At Good Friday services yesterday, I learned a new word to define the political detractors of our President and his War on Terror policies...MUMPSIMUS.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-mum1.htm

''there was once a medieval monk who persistently said a phrase in the Latin Eucharist wrongly, either because he was illiterate and had learned it that way or because it had been transcribed incorrectly in his copy./SNIP/What made this particular mistake memorable is what the monk was supposed to have said when he was corrected./SNIP/the monk replied that he had said it that way for forty years and ''I will not change my old mumpsimus for your new sumpsimus''.

As a result, the word came to be applied to someone who sticks obstinately to their old ways, in spite of the clearest evidence that they are wrong. The word can also have the related meaning of some custom or notion that is adhered to, even though it has been shown to be unreasonable.''


23 posted on 04/15/2006 6:24:50 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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A must read, keep for your records.

The Hidden History of the Iraq War Critics
April 14th, 2006
http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5414

From little hooded monk (comments)

'The carping critics erect a rhetorical, if not imaginary, entity so they can bash it with charges of ''not enough troops'' and other hindsight insight.'

At Good Friday services yesterday, I learned a new word to define the political detractors of our President and his War on Terror policies...MUMPSIMUS.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-mum1.htm

''there was once a medieval monk who persistently said a phrase in the Latin Eucharist wrongly, either because he was illiterate and had learned it that way or because it had been transcribed incorrectly in his copy./SNIP/What made this particular mistake memorable is what the monk was supposed to have said when he was corrected./SNIP/the monk replied that he had said it that way for forty years and ''I will not change my old mumpsimus for your new sumpsimus''.

As a result, the word came to be applied to someone who sticks obstinately to their old ways, in spite of the clearest evidence that they are wrong. The word can also have the related meaning of some custom or notion that is adhered to, even though it has been shown to be unreasonable.''


25 posted on 04/15/2006 6:31:40 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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Retired Generals Defend Rumsfeld
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/006760.php


28 posted on 04/15/2006 6:52:26 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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A pathetic display by soldier/politicians who were either bypassed for promotion or had their own bad ideas ignored. Its a CNN practise to dredge up these losers for display in trying to buttress the MSM agenda.

Kudos to Lester Holt for his interview with a sensible retired General Officer who has his head screwed on right.


34 posted on 04/15/2006 7:11:46 AM PDT by hgro
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Zarqawi, al-Qaeda are heading out, U.S. general says
Liberal generals response: GODAMMIT THAT RUMSFELD HAS TO GO!!!!

Al Qaeda in Iraq and its presumed leader, Abu Musab Zarqawi, have conceded strategic defeat and are on their way out of the country, a top U.S. military official contended yesterday.



Let's only hope that this is true. It echos his last letter to Zawairi about the need for a new stronghold....but whereto?

The West Bank? Lebanon? Gaza? Egypt?

The group's failure to disrupt national elections and a constitutional referendum last year "was a tactical admission by Zarqawi that their strategy had failed," said Lt. Gen. John R. Vines, who commands the XVIII Airborne Corps.

"They no longer view Iraq as fertile ground to establish a caliphate and as a place to conduct international terrorism," he said in an address at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

Gen. Vines' statement came as news broke that coalition and Iraqi forces had killed an associate of Osama bin Laden's during an early morning raid near Abu Ghraib about two weeks ago.

Rafid Ibrahim Fattah aka Abu Umar al Kurdi served as a liaison between terrorist networks and was linked to Taliban members in Afghanistan, Pakistani-based extremists and other senior al Qaeda leaders, the military said yesterday.

In the past six months, al Kurdi had worked as a terrorist cell leader in Baqouba. Prior to that, he had traveled extensively Pakistan, Iran and Iraq and formed a relationship with al Qaeda senior leaders in 1999 while in Afghanistan.

He also had ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, formed while he was in Iran and Pakistan, and joined the jihad in Afghanistan in 1989, the military said. He was killed March 27.

http://flyingassmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/04/zarqawi-al-qaeda-are-heading-out-us.html


36 posted on 04/15/2006 7:15:41 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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What a coincidence.

"Stuff Happens" play sears Rumsfeld in New York

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A play that skewers Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as arrogant and war-mad has opened to a largely favorable welcome in New York this week, even as former generals turn against him in Washington.

In "Stuff Happens," by British playwright David Hare, Rumsfeld is described as a "velociraptor" and at one point his character says "I could eat a baby through the bars of a crib."

The growing number of retired U.S. generals who have called for his ouster has not gone that far describing Rumsfeld, but the arrogance and failure to heed military advisers that they accuse him of are given dramatic life in Hare's play.

The play casts Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney as driving President Bush in a rush to war in Iraq, and portrays former Secretary of State Colin Powell as clashing with the others over the need for war.

"The play superbly captures the decision making, manipulations and miscalculations that have by now been thoroughly documented," the New York Post said in its review of the play. "'Stuff Happens' is a riveting piece of theater that well justifies the playwright's description of it as a 'history play,"' in the Shakespearean tradition.

First produced in London in 2004, "Stuff Happens" takes its title from Rumsfeld's quip dismissing the looting after U.S. troops entered Baghdad. Drawing on recorded quotes from Bush and his closest aides, the play recreates the build-up to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, including many closed-door scenes that Hare imagined entirely.

In contrast to Post and the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal panned "Stuff Happens." As a documentary, it said, the play was "a flop, full of coarse caricatures and stiff with smugness," that stroked the preconceptions of an audience that "sniggered from start to finish."

The play has been updated since its first production, to focus more on Powell and his clashes with Rumsfeld and Cheney, who between them lay out the arguments promoted by neoconservatives who pressed for the Iraq invasion.

Bush comes over as an opaque figure but one who is the ultimate decision-maker, while British Prime Minister Tony Blair is portrayed as an idealist.

The New York Times in its review said an alternative title for the play could be "The Tragedy of Colin Powell."

"He is Brutus in 'Julius Caesar,' an honorable man forced to run a race he no longer believes in," the paper said.

It is for pushing the war and ignoring the advice of his top generals that the 73-year-old Rumsfeld has come under fire in recent weeks from a small but influential group of retired generals who have called openly for his resignation.

Bush has stuck by Rumsfeld even as criticism over the war has helped drive the president's approval ratings to new lows. Bush issued a statement on Friday expressing his full support for the defense secretary.

Reuters/VNU

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060414/stage_nm/rumsfeld_dc


37 posted on 04/15/2006 7:19:14 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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Mark, thank you again for your continuing work - yours is the first ping I read every morning.

On the Rummy issue, once the LSM finally gets it into their thick skulls that President Bush is NOT going to fire him, they'll bounce back over to bashing VP Cheney. This morning's headlines are already trying to make it look as if he cheated on his income taxes.

They just need their pinata du jour.

39 posted on 04/15/2006 7:31:42 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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