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Aw forced exercises, painful physical positions, and sleep depervation. Sounds like a number of wrestling camps I have been to long ago.
1 posted on 04/14/2006 8:41:08 PM PDT by jmc1969
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im glad he's personally involved, if that's an accurate statement. i dont trust any of these damn generals anymore. they all hate him because he's not cowed by them.


2 posted on 04/14/2006 8:44:48 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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This is such a crock of $hit. Last year, Gitmo prisoners gained an average of 10 pounds. They have 3 squares and a warm place to sleep and $hit. Yup, torture alright.


3 posted on 04/14/2006 8:45:12 PM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads. Taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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Oh please more bull crap.
5 posted on 04/14/2006 8:47:24 PM PDT by demlosers
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Despite McLame's protestations regarding the negative aspects of torture...I'm all for it. I think anyone NOT covered by the Geneva Convention (such as enemy combatants) is fair game for whatever we can imagine.

These-called abuses in this cae don't amount to torture to me. As for the Generals who have lined up against Rumsfeld...Aren't they the same kiss a$$es who sucked up to Clinton when he was ignoring the military and didn't want to hear from the real warriors?

8 posted on 04/14/2006 8:50:01 PM PDT by borisbob69 (Old shade is better than new shade!)
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I was there. Me and old rummy beat the poop outa them irish fellas. Had a heck of a laugh after.


9 posted on 04/14/2006 8:50:26 PM PDT by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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The terrorist lobby checks back in.


10 posted on 04/14/2006 8:52:21 PM PDT by speedy
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"For six weeks, he was intentionally deprived of sleep, forced into painful physical positions (known as stress positions) and subjected to forced exercises, forced standing, and sexual and other physical humiliation."

Sounds like Basic Training.
The sexual humiliation was being called a homosexual. Which is an interesting take from the left - now calling someone a homosexual is akin to torture.


11 posted on 04/14/2006 8:53:09 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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12 posted on 04/14/2006 8:58:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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How about challenging REAL human rights violators, like China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Belarus for a change???


13 posted on 04/14/2006 9:00:55 PM PDT by Thunder90
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Hey, Human Rights Watch, can you read Chinee?


18 posted on 04/14/2006 9:18:58 PM PDT by smoothsailing (NEVER FORGET-Don't be Murtha'd again)
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Human Rights Watch is listed as an international community member of the Gay & Lesbian Fund.

Human Rights Watch
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Rights Project
Scott Long
(212) 216-1297
longs@hrw.org
www.hrw.org/lgbt

The provide funding and support for Victory Fund financial cofounded by David Mixner.

http://www.victoryfund.org/clientuploads/documents/Victory_2003_E-Resolution.pdf

Page 25 specifically says The Gay & Lesbian Fund provides financial support to openly lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender candidates and officials.


19 posted on 04/14/2006 9:21:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Torture??

These idiots don't what torture is.

But I would personally rather pull each finger nail and toe nail out of these rats and progressively break every bone in their collective bodies one at a time before I would have to watch the spectacle of what we saw on 9-1-1:
American men and women, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, blacks, whites and Asians, sons and daughters being roasted alive or jumping to their deaths from scores of stories above ground because some lunatic with a death wish following a cult called "Islam" decides to take out his hatred for the west on innocent civlians.

Torture??

Baloney.


21 posted on 04/14/2006 9:23:00 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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All groups send this stuff out to keep their troops interested, motivated, and above all, sending cash.

They couldn't touch Kissinger for VietNam (and a few other things). They gave it a good shot to convinct Pinochet, but as I recall, he died before anything happened (and he was responsible for thousands of real tortures and real deaths).

Rumsfeld will be bothered by these idiots for a while, but they won't be able to do more than harass him.


25 posted on 04/14/2006 9:29:46 PM PDT by TWohlford
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Some info from Human Rights Watch web site:

"The interrogation log reveals that al-Qahtani was subjected to a regime of physical and mental mistreatment from mid-November 2002 to early January 2003. For six weeks, he was intentionally deprived of sleep, forced into painful physical positions (known as stress positions) and subjected to forced exercises, forced standing, and sexual and other physical humiliation."

"After refusing water, al-Qahtani was forced to accept an intravenous drip for hydration and, on several occasions, was refused trips to a latrine, so that he urinated on himself at least twice. He was also threatened with forced enemas, and on one occasion was forced to undergo an enema."

"A six-week regime of sleep deprivation, forced exercises, stress positions, white noise, and sexual humiliation amounts to acts that were specifically intended to cause severe physical pain and suffering and severe mental pain and suffering," said Mariner. "That’s the legal definition of torture."

"Al-Qahtani, who is alleged to have been a "20th hijacker," was denied entry to the United States in August 2001. Pentagon spokesman Gordon told Salon.com on Thursday that al-Qahtani was an "al-Qaida terrorist" who provided a "treasure trove" of information during his interrogation. (The information al-Qahtani is said to have provided, however, is still classified.)" The last paragraph justifies whatever sleep deprivation that Al-Qahtani received. Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld should be exonerated. Instead it proves that any noble organization in the hands of leftist, becomes a waste.

27 posted on 04/14/2006 9:43:46 PM PDT by jonrick46
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Saddams in custody right now and I bet they haven't made any attempt to hold him liable........


28 posted on 04/15/2006 7:46:53 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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