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1 posted on 04/14/2006 2:35:24 PM PDT by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

Well, Gomez, the Christian thing to do would be to obey the laws of the land, and the humanitarian thing would be to assist them to get back home so they're no longer illegal.


2 posted on 04/14/2006 2:37:50 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (All strong Reagan Conservatives belong in the Constitutional Party.)
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To: Racehorse

"'Love thy neighbor... by staying out of thy neighbor's yard."


3 posted on 04/14/2006 2:39:02 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Racehorse

The man needs a lawyer. It already is an offense to harbor or conceal an illegal alien.


4 posted on 04/14/2006 2:39:19 PM PDT by Wisconsin
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To: Racehorse

I am sure the good archbishop has been jailed for his adamant opposition to abortion too. < /sarcasm>


5 posted on 04/14/2006 2:39:33 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Racehorse

Just levy a large fine and be done with it. I wonder how defiant Bishop Gomez would be were the issue abortion or homosexuality...


6 posted on 04/14/2006 2:39:58 PM PDT by Reagan 76
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To: Racehorse

His "faith" doesn't impress me. Father Gomez leaving the comfy good ole' US to go down THERE and practice "charity" would seem a little more genuine.


7 posted on 04/14/2006 2:42:09 PM PDT by manwiththehands ("'Rule of law'? We don't need no stinkin' rule of law! We want amnesty, muchacho!")
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To: Racehorse

It's about damm time that organized religions either butt out of politics or start paying taxes like any other money making business.


8 posted on 04/14/2006 2:43:16 PM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: Racehorse
San Antonio Archbishop José Gomez says he'll adhere to his faith and break the law if a congressional proposal criminalizing humanitarian assistance to undocumented immigrants prevails,

Not surprising. Gomez was a big proponent of illegal aliens when has was the auxiliary bishop in Denver.

Jose needs to review the teaching of his Church as defined in the Catechism.

2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

9 posted on 04/14/2006 2:45:42 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Racehorse

Open season on Catholics time!

Catholics are sure convenient when it comes to abortion and other so-called conservative principles. When we Catholics don't agree with conservative principles we're villified.

Please don't ask Catholics to choose between politicized issues and The Church. True Catholics will always choose the Church, regardless of the law.

...don't get me started. I'm sick of the fair weather Catholics and Protestant "friends" of Catholics as long as the issue suits them.


10 posted on 04/14/2006 2:48:11 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: Racehorse

Sounds to me, like the Archdiocese of San Antonio just gave the IRS cause to pull its' tax exemption. After all, it's leader just said he would not obey the law of the land. . .


15 posted on 04/14/2006 3:00:48 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Racehorse; sinkspur
HR 4437 does not criminalize humanitarian assistance, nor does it criminalize anyone who is unaware of a criminal alien's unlawful presence in our country, nor does it criminalize a priest ministering communion.

This is pure sensationalism designed to sway those without the ability or desire to educate themselves on its provisions. Only knowingly aiding and abetting someone who is here illegally to remain here in defiance of the law is illegal.

Full Text HR 4437

I suspect that most here making those types of claims are full aware of their basic falsehood. HR 4437 is an exceptionally well conceived and written piece of legislation that will have exactly the desired effect of greatly reducing illegal immigration (which is why its' detractors are so vehemently opposed to it).

21 posted on 04/14/2006 3:19:54 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Racehorse
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In reply to these bums you can do the following:

I sent my two bricks (cost $9.10 requiring signature and ability to track) and used the following in a letter. Taped my letter on the front of the brick after I wrapped it in cardboard. I then put it in the US Post Office Priority Mail, "Flat Rate Envelope". I sent one to Frist and the other to Hastert. Thanks to Paine in the Neck for the suggestion (shown again below)--Good Job.

U.S Constitution

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"The Congress shall have the Power To...provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress insurections and repel Invasions..."

Art. IV, Sec. 4

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion..."

Art. VI., par. 3

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution;..."

U. S. Senate Oath of Office

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

U. S. House of Representatives Oath of Office

"I, ..., do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

You want votes? You want money? Do your damned duty! Secure the borders and get the illegal aliens out.

32 posted on 04/14/2006 3:46:17 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Racehorse

This church needs to loose it non-profit status for taking a political stand and choosing to ignore the law of the land.


37 posted on 04/14/2006 3:56:03 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: Racehorse

If he breaks the law he should be arrested and charged and his church should lose tax exempt status.


62 posted on 04/14/2006 5:07:00 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Racehorse
Gomez, you need to be glad it is the government dealing with you and not me. You simply MUST follow the law of the land. Nothing in that legislation is a violation of Biblical teaching AT ALL. In Romans the Lord says through the Apostle Paul:

Romans 13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.

67 posted on 04/14/2006 5:13:22 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Racehorse

San Antonio Archbishop José Gomez says he'll adhere to his faith and break the law if a congressional proposal criminalizing humanitarian assistance to undocumented immigrants prevails, though he'd consult with fellow Texas bishops before asking subordinates to follow his lead."

Isn't this a big red herring and urban legend anyway?
The law is to go after Coyotes, not shelters, etc.


83 posted on 04/14/2006 6:58:14 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: saradippity

Another Mahony?


110 posted on 04/14/2006 9:51:42 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Racehorse

Charge him and throw in in jail like anyone else. He should not receive any special treatment. Separation of church and state works both ways.


144 posted on 04/15/2006 9:39:13 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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