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ISP Snooping Gaining Support
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| 4/14/06
| Declan McCullagh
Posted on 04/14/2006 1:21:05 PM PDT by steve-b
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Big Brother Is Watching You (not just what you're doing now, either...).
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:21:05 PM PDT
by
steve-b
To: steve-b
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:21:56 PM PDT
by
IncPen
(Torture should be safe, legal, and rare.)
To: steve-b
"You haven't done anything but increase surveillance of law-abiding citizens." Might as well get on with it. It is inevitable that the politicians will give the 1984 solution a try.
The Internet, however is not without it's resources to combat the loss of privacy. PGP will grow like a weed. Encryption in general will become pervasive. It may be hard (but maybe not impossible) to hide where you go but you will be able to hide the transactions. And then, of course, they will try to outlaw encryption. Then we will all be criminals.
To: steve-b
Honestly, there's part of me that doesn't mind, the government has a warrant, it has the right to see anything. OTOH, with the precedent set that the government doesn't need a warrant for practically anything, my answer is HELL NO!
To: IncPen
"I am here from the Office of Pre-crime."
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:33:18 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
To: steve-b
If the government doesn't do something to control all of this internet communication we could have a serious outbreak of FREE SPEECH.
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:33:20 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: steve-b
Why build a system like Carnivore when you can just order the ISPs to do it for you?
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:35:56 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: InterceptPoint
And then, of course, they will try to outlaw encryption. Then we will all be criminals. Back to the good old days of Al Gore I guess -- clipper chip, key escrow, loads of fun. I know I refused to vote for Gore for a reason, but now I'm wondering why since things I feared under him are coming true anyway.
And check out the thread Phone Taps Just Got Impossible where some FReepers are apparently mad at the hindered snooping ability of the government.
To: steve-b
A lot of countries spy on their citizens, China and Iran come to mind first. What political party is incharge now? Ahhhh yes, I will remember in November.
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:38:06 PM PDT
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: steve-b
The solution to this is simple.
Set up a Virtual Private Network server in the Bahamas, attach it to a huge internet pipe, and sell a subscription service for access to the VPN service. All your internet traffic will be sent via the pipe to the Bahamas, encrypted, and it will appear, for all intents and purposes, that the internet traffic is originating in the Bahamas.
For most private usage purposes, this set up will work fine. High bandwidth requirements might be a problem, but I'm sure that problem can be solved with faster servers, compression, and more bandwidth.
(Okay, so this solution isn't that simple. The simplest solution would be to piggy back off your neighbor's wireless when you're doing something naughty.)
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:39:00 PM PDT
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: steve-b
This would be tantamount to being able to come to your home and demand to see all your mail for the past - forever.
Gotta be illegal -
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:39:33 PM PDT
by
maine-iac7
(",,,BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME" Lincoln)
To: steve-b
Nail American citizens but allow ILLEGALS to do as they please.
To: steve-b
The Internet protocol for the RADIUS server, the software that logs dial up users on and off the Internet, has always contained provisions for logging every site a user brings up in his browser.
Most ISP's keep such records at least for some period of time.
It is fairly hard to keep anything one does on the net a secret if someone wants to know what you are doing.
To: Realism
Ahhhh yes, I will remember in Novemberand you can make a case for being safer under the socialistDems????
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:42:16 PM PDT
by
maine-iac7
(",,,BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME" Lincoln)
To: Yo-Yo
Why build a system like Carnivore when you can just order the ISPs to do it for you? Exactly. That's "enlightened communism" and it's been going on for as long as I can remember.
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:43:21 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(Polls show Jesus' approval ratings at all time low, after a triumphant reception just a few days ago)
To: steve-b
you are your ip address that big computer in the sky...
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:44:23 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(Polls show Jesus' approval ratings at all time low, after a triumphant reception just a few days ago)
To: steve-b
I'd be all for this if it were a two-way street, meaning government entities were required to do the same thing, and to allow full access to the data to the public.
Like that would ever happen.
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:44:35 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
To: maine-iac7
and you can make a case for being safer under the socialistDems???? I can hardly tell the difference anymore...
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:44:36 PM PDT
by
Realism
(Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
To: steve-b
any legal eagles...how come the 5th ammendment no longer seems to work here?
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posted on
04/14/2006 1:47:20 PM PDT
by
mo
To: Realism
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