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Boring lessons are good practice for life, say teachers
The Daily Telegraph ^ | April 14, 2006 | Liz Lightfoot

Posted on 04/14/2006 12:48:03 AM PDT by MadIvan

Children should expect some of their lessons to be boring because life is not a "Disney ride", teachers said yesterday.

Too often pupils and parents expected lessons to be "all singing, all dancing" when the reality was that some learning could be tedious and hard work. Zoe Fail, a mathematics teacher. thinks that children are not bored enough because their lives are over-stimulated.

"Being bored encourages thinking skills and imaginative play," she said. "I remember being bored but I am not bored now because I know how to deal with it."

Miss Fail, from Kent, told delegates at the Association of Teachers and Lecturers' annual conference in Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, that she did not have the energy to do "all singing, all dancing" lessons every hour of the day.

Barry Williams, a lecturer at Hertford Regional College, said: "I do not believe I teach boring lessons. Ofsted just don't understand the nuances and subtleties of my lessons.

"When they say to me: 'Mr Williams, that girl is looking out of the window staring at a tree,' I say: 'Do they not recognise the advanced stages of Zen Buddhism which I have brought into my lessons?'

"I am, in fact, producing adults who will be able to watch party political broadcasts.

"I am producing future teachers who can go through a day of Inset training."

Michael Boakes said pupils should realise that learning how to deal with boredom was a necessary lesson in life.


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I would be concerned if I had a teacher named "Miss Fail". Anyway, children should get used to the idea of achieving Zen Boredom - where boredom is everything and everything is boring. It comes in handy.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/14/2006 12:48:06 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 04/14/2006 12:48:19 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ya hya chouhada! Dune fans, visit - http://www.thesietch.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Ms. Fail, meet my favorite law firm:

Payne & Fears. ;)

http://www.paynefears.com/


3 posted on 04/14/2006 12:56:38 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: MadIvan
Michael Boakes said pupils should realise that learning how to deal with boredom was a necessary lesson in life.

Droning, monotone, unenthusiastic, mediocre...don't put up with this crap. Life is too short. If the teacher is bad, transfer out.
4 posted on 04/14/2006 1:00:49 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: MadIvan

bump


5 posted on 04/14/2006 1:01:51 AM PDT by malia (FLIGHT 93 HAS DONE MORE TO FIGHT TERRORISM THAN THE WHOLE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!)
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To: MadIvan
I extend my sympathy to teachers who are, acc. to current standards, expected to be "dancing pencils" all day to encourage their students to learn. That must indeed be quite tiring. The students' success or failure is placed upon the teachers' shoulders, instead of the responsibility for concentration and learning being placed squarely in the lap of the students.

That said, I still believe in accountability for school districts to meet and maintain government standards of at least minimum student performance, and performance testing in elementary and middle schools is the only way to measure this achievement. (In the US there's much controversy over teachers' contentions that "We're only teaching the tests so the students can pass the tests." My cousin who is an elementary school teacher is very much against these tests.)

6 posted on 04/14/2006 1:08:18 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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My favorite part:

When they say to me: 'Mr Williams, that girl is looking out of the window staring at a tree,' I say: 'Do they not recognise the advanced stages of Zen Buddhism which I have brought into my lessons?'

"I am, in fact, producing adults who will be able to watch party political broadcasts.


Would it not be beautiful if these "Zen Buddhism" kids turn their "skulls full of mush" (kudoos to Rush)into brilliant conservative minds after watching the pathetic liberals' "party political broadcasts": kids have a great sense of sensibility and know crap when they see it.


7 posted on 04/14/2006 1:41:35 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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Kids have a great sense of sensibility and know crap when they see it.

I still remember my discomfort and resentment towards my senior year social studies teacher when he belittled my conservative views in class. I had said that Eisenhower was a great president.

8 posted on 04/14/2006 1:46:15 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: MadIvan

Translation: Teaching is hard and if I can lower expectations I don't have to do my job as a teacher.

Practice drills/homework is one issue. This teacher sounds just plain lazy or worse covering her incompetence.


9 posted on 04/14/2006 2:04:12 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Perhaps, although I have noticed a disturbing trend in education and parenting, in which everything is supposed to be entertaining and fascinating.

There is just no way to make multiplication table memorization or handwriting and spelling practice as fascinating in the classroom as students would wish.

Learning the discipline to do necessary but boring work is a GOOD thing. I don't want a doctor who has to be "entertained" while he does his 1000th knee surgery, because he has become bored.

10 posted on 04/14/2006 2:35:11 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: MadIvan

No no no... if a student finds a lesson boring then they should double their dose of ritalin. Just call up the school nurse, they are in a big blue bowl next to the condoms behind the counter.


11 posted on 04/14/2006 2:35:32 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Ciexyz

Well if the tests truly do contain the subjects we as a society expect children to learn, then yes, teach to the test! I mean, writing a 5 paragraph essay, doing some simple algebra, knowing the bill of rights, naming some of the founding fathers, knowing the primary and secondary colors, jot a few notes about a couple of important literary and artistic figures and why they are important, discuss some aspects of civics, discuss the branches of government and why, etc...

I bet the 'test' is a 60 minute exam. That's probably the problem. Should be 8 hours filled with questions about all subjects... and not so much multiple choice, more writing, critical thought, etc.

Teach to the test, but make sure the test is the right kind of test. We don't need lazy teachers who just want to scan-tron the exam. Get some real teachers who will read the exams and mark them up.

And for good measure, make the teachers take the test too!


12 posted on 04/14/2006 2:41:27 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Ciexyz
I still remember my discomfort and resentment towards my senior year social studies teacher when he belittled my conservative views in class. I had said that Eisenhower was a great president.

Same here. The teacher gave a long pompous speech on the virtues of Dukakis. I spoke up for Reagan and GHWB. He mocked and ridiculed me relentlessly. Of course a good number of those in the class fell in line with him. I felt better after Dukakis got his ass handed to him.
13 posted on 04/14/2006 2:45:33 AM PDT by Jaysun (If anything is possible, then it's possible that nothing is possible.)
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Zen Buddhism and Stoicism helped me through out school. I still learned all the really important things I know outside it of course. The only knowledge I accrued at public school, that I probably couldn't have outside, was how to ridicule people and hide in the herd; and technically I learned that from the other students. Of course to be fair, since those are the foundations of a "model citizenry," those lessons probably were an intended part of the public school curricula.


14 posted on 04/14/2006 3:04:31 AM PDT by Pelayo
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School is the place where we first experience a thirst for knowledge. Memorizing math tables and poetry is boring but pays rewards.

April is "young people's poetry month"....but young people, those 50 years and under, are no longer required to memorize poems and prose in school. This week we asked customers to recite a poem for a special discount. The young ones could only recall a nursery rhyme or "roses are red" (note these were likely repeated over and over by mom), while the seniors delighted us with Shakespeare, Longfellow, Kilmer, Burns....all poems they memorized many years ago.
15 posted on 04/14/2006 3:52:16 AM PDT by chgomac
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To: Miss Marple
Perhaps, although I have noticed a disturbing trend in education and parenting, in which everything is supposed to be entertaining and fascinating.

I agree and I've been saying this for years. Not knowing how to deal with boredom is a big problem in our culture. Art, writing, music, ideas - why do most all that have come out in the last 40 years suck? Welcome to the the generation of Those Who Must Be Entertained Constantly. If you never have to confront boredom, you never have to be creative. Learning to think, reason, analyze a problem, dig out facts, reach a conclusion based on facts, all those skills involve a great amount of what is today considered boring - therefore unnecessary. Look around you at the results.

16 posted on 04/14/2006 3:57:18 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: MadIvan

"Some classes are ... anyone? Boring. Some classes are boring. They are taught by teachers with little ... who knows the answer? Anyone? Imagination. This is to prepare you for your future ... anyone? Bueller? jobs."


17 posted on 04/14/2006 4:00:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: chgomac
Here is what I had to memorize in the seventh grade:

"Sea Fever" by John Mayesfield

"Invictus"

"Little Orphan Annie"

Marc Antony's Eulogy of Julius Caesar

It's a shame they don't do this anymore.

18 posted on 04/14/2006 4:03:41 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

So true. Seemingly boring routines for periods of time make for a spontaneous release of joy and appreciation when things in and of themselves become exciting.


19 posted on 04/14/2006 4:08:17 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Miss Marple
Perhaps, although I have noticed a disturbing trend in education and parenting, in which everything is supposed to be entertaining and fascinating.

There is just no way to make multiplication table memorization or handwriting and spelling practice as fascinating in the classroom as students would wish.

Learning the discipline to do necessary but boring work is a GOOD thing. I don't want a doctor who has to be "entertained" while he does his 1000th knee surgery, because he has become bore

I think you got the point here that others here are missing. Study and homework are hard work and too many of today's kids just don't want to spend their time in those activities and too many of today's teachers have given up stressing the importance of those activities, or don't believe in the importance.

I have a friend who's a grade-school teacher (3rd, 4th, 5th) who told me once that she believes that "more than 20 minutes homework is a waste of time". She is my friend. And yet, she is a blithering idiot.

What the world needs now is more homework.
That's the only thing, that there's just too little of.

My wife is from China, and whenever the two of us watch a TV show or a movie about teenage life in America she invariably says something like, "when I was in school, we didn't have time for anything but homework. And when I wasn't doing homework, I was trying to get just a little more sleep."

Maybe the Chinese and Japanese are a little over-the-top in the high-pressure they subject their kids too, but here in America, for the most part, we are way down in the gutter.

Homework isn't fun. So kids refuse to do it. And the entire education system is bending over backwards to reward, enable and justify their refusal.

20 posted on 04/14/2006 4:13:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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