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Boeing keen to rope in India for the P-8A MMA project
Indian Express/India Defence ^

Posted on 04/13/2006 8:56:18 PM PDT by Srirangan

New Delhi: A high-level team from Boeing will give the Navy a classified briefing this week on the P-8A Maritime Multimission Aircraft (MMA), a futuristic reconnaisance and oceanic warfare jet to be rolled out by 2013 for the US Navy.

This afternoon, Boeing president & CEO James McNerney paid a 10-minute courtesy call on Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at his office.

Both Boeing and the Pentagon are keen to engage the Indian Navy as a technical partner in the $3.89 billion P-8A programme — an unprecedented proposal that would have remained a pipedream if it wasn't for the new strategic relationship between the two countries.

Talks are still at a preliminary stage and the financial implications of joining the P-8A programme are very high, though the Navy feels that getting on board the programme early on would ensure that it receives what it perceives to be the best next generation Naval aviation technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at india-defence.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boeing; india; p8a
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1 posted on 04/13/2006 8:56:20 PM PDT by Srirangan
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To: Srirangan; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.

2 posted on 04/13/2006 9:02:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
The US is allowing F-15's and F-16's to be built in India. Hopefully, we will also allow Abrams tanks and NATO standard armaments to be sold and given to the Indians to counter China and Russia.
3 posted on 04/13/2006 9:12:49 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Paleo Conservative

I hadn't heard this. Yet the article says, "Talks are at a preliminary stage..."

Just curious why the announcement is from "Indian Express/India Defence"???? and not a U.S. news source?


4 posted on 04/13/2006 9:19:53 PM PDT by phantomworker ('Live your life with arms wide open Today is where your book begins The rest is still unwritten')
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Just curious why the announcement is from "Indian Express/India Defence"???? and not a U.S. news source?

Because the Freeper who posted it is from India.

5 posted on 04/13/2006 9:23:59 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Thunder90
The US is allowing F-15's and F-16's to be built in India.

Baloney.

6 posted on 04/13/2006 9:27:11 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Paleo Conservative

Oh, then makes it so. ;)


7 posted on 04/13/2006 9:27:17 PM PDT by phantomworker ('Live your life with arms wide open Today is where your book begins The rest is still unwritten')
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To: Paleo Conservative; A.A. Cunningham

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q2/060413a_nr.html

Boeing Submits Proposal to Indian Navy for Long-Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft
ST. LOUIS, April 13, 2006 -- A team led by Boeing [NYSE: BA] today submitted its proposal to develop and deliver eight long-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare aircraft to the Indian navy. Boeing is offering a variant of its P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft, which is currently in development for the U.S. Navy. The proposed aircraft would provide India with a significantly improved maritime patrol and reconnaissance capability.

"We have proposed a unique system that will enhance the capability of the Indian navy in anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare," said Rick Buck, Boeing program manager for P-8A international programs. "The increased range, speed, radius of action and advanced combat power inherent in our 21st century solution will enable the Indian navy to fully patrol and influence events in its entire operational region. Additionally, the commonality inherent in our solution will greatly enhance the interoperability and supportability objectives publicly supported by both the U.S. and Indian navies."

Boeing is the prime contractor and systems integrator for the U.S. Navy's P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft. The Boeing team includes CFM, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and Smiths. The U.S. Navy plans to purchase 108 aircraft, with deliveries beginning in 2009.

Boeing's proposal includes the development of a unique Indian navy P-8 configuration, significant participation for Indian industry, test and certification activities, and eight aircraft delivered over a four-year period.

Under the request for proposal, bids were to be submitted by April 13, 2006, with first deliveries occurring within 48 months of the contract award.


8 posted on 04/13/2006 9:32:44 PM PDT by phantomworker ('Live your life with arms wide open Today is where your book begins The rest is still unwritten')
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To: Thunder90

It would be extremely unwise to part with anything more modern than 30 years old designs.


9 posted on 04/13/2006 9:45:19 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob
It would be extremely unwise to part with anything more modern than 30 years old designs.

Exactly! Heck, we won't even let Britain collaborate on military projects, why would India get any significant technology? !!! ROFLMAO!!!

10 posted on 04/13/2006 9:57:57 PM PDT by phantomworker ('Live your life with arms wide open Today is where your book begins The rest is still unwritten')
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To: Paleo Conservative; Genghis Khan
"Outsourcing" has been a key part of Boeing's strategy since the end of WWII, when Mitsubishi started supplying them with airframe components. Now, Mitsubishi is Boeing's largest supplier, and ANA and JAL have Boeing fleets.

This is all about selling aircraft in India, where the industry has been booming since deregulation last year.

11 posted on 04/13/2006 10:06:16 PM PDT by Clemenza (Bayonne L.A.M.F.)
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To: Srirangan

civilian aviation is about to take off in india. i feel that boeing has a great opportunity to be the one stop shop for all civilian and military requirements from india.

india is looking to place a big time order for fighter planes and the Super Hornet is a great candidate.


12 posted on 04/13/2006 10:12:49 PM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: phantomworker; GSlob

Well,If the US won't part with modern systems,well India can always look at Russian or European systems & those folks wouldn't probably mind giving a piece of the pie to their customers.Besides the IN,India also has a growing coast guard,so any deal will be for close to 60 platforms by 2025.Involving other nations like India or Australia will not only keep costs down,but also increase political confidence in a project.


13 posted on 04/13/2006 11:57:12 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Srirangan
How India votes in the U.N.

"US State Department and United Nations records:
India votes against the United States 81% of the time."
(Libya votes against the United States 76% of the time.)

snopes.com/

14 posted on 04/14/2006 12:22:49 AM PDT by Daaave (Your karma will make you fight.)
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To: Daaave

You can't expect much else when you arm India's arch-rivals like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.


15 posted on 04/14/2006 1:25:41 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Daaave

From your own link:

India With US: 14 Against US: 52 Against(%): 79%

Japan With US: 26 Against US: 36 Against(%): 58%


Besides, how many times does US vote against India in the UN and elsewhere?

The fact is, this is the past. IIRC, India voted with the US against Iran, a month or so ago. And that was a major vote against Iran.


16 posted on 04/14/2006 1:31:20 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick; Daaave

"India (former Soviet ally) votes against the United States 81% of the time."

"Pakistan (America's ally) votes against the United States 75% of the time."

LOLZ.


17 posted on 04/14/2006 1:51:58 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: phantomworker; GSlob

That way the only gainers would be Russia, France, EU and Israel.

You think India would buy 30 years old designs?


18 posted on 04/14/2006 2:35:28 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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India votes against the United States 81% of the time."
Past performance does not indicate future performance. In the past, India was socialist.

They still do some socialism, I'm sure - but then, you have to consider how much socialism, how very many socialists (oh, excuse me, liberals) we have here.

Fact is, we need India, and vice versa. We also need the cooperation of Pakistan, and unfortunately the relationship between the two is creates a minefield for us.


19 posted on 04/14/2006 3:01:12 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Gengis Khan

It all boils down to the level of long term trust, not to the level of today's convenience. Serious Israeli exports could be controlled; and as for the French and Russians - more power to you. Isn't that what India has been buying for decades?


20 posted on 04/14/2006 6:05:30 AM PDT by GSlob
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