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Can Rumsfeld withstand backtalk of former commanders? - Rumsfeld flunking, ex-generals charge
ap on San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 4/13/06 | Tom Raum - ap

Posted on 04/13/2006 4:24:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

By the way, folks, this writer Tom Raum is a Democrat left-wing POS traitor!!!


101 posted on 04/14/2006 6:15:25 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: HawaiianGecko
I may be wrong, but I don't recall a single Admiral complaining about the Secretary or for that matter an Air Force General.

As a sometime Air Force officer, I can tell you that what the AF prizes in its officers is uncritical enthusiasm for the program, whatever the program may be, including the exact opposite of yesterday's program. Principled objections and resignations-in-protest just aren't going to happen in the well-winnowed-out top grades.

102 posted on 04/14/2006 7:09:03 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Texas Eagle
Looks like Rumsfeld is ruffling some feathers over at the Pentagon and the roaches are rushing around trying to protect their buddies.

Shinseki and his ilk can go straight to hell for all I care.

103 posted on 04/14/2006 7:25:37 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Two-Bits

Amen to your post #71 and a heartfelt thank you to your son.


104 posted on 04/14/2006 7:27:09 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Gamecock; Rodentking; FreeReign
Then you haven't been paying attention. Rumsfeld fired Shinseki for saying just that. He was fired.

Actually it is you that hasn't been paying attention. John Kerry started this myth (lie) on Oct 8th 2003 in a debate with President Bush. His quote was "General Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, told him he was going to need several hundred thousand. And guess what? They retired General Shinseki for telling him that."

Although it is correct that Shinseki's advice was ignored, in fact his decision to retire was reported in the Washington Times  nearly a year before his February 25, 2003 testimony.

In fact Shinseki didn't even recommend 300,000 troops. His quote in committee was "Something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required," General Shinseki told members of the Senate Armed Services Committee today. General Shinseki made clear that he was providing only his personal assessment of postwar needs, and that the final decision would be made by the commander of American forces in the region, Gen. Tommy R. Franks. (Article by Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough, "Inside The Ring," Washington Times, April 19, 2002.)

I find it funny that some people simply assume that Generals who disagree are right, but the Generals that actually came up with the plan and executed the most successful military campaign in history are never given the credit for being correct.

Shinseki was right, Rumsfeld was wrong is the moronic chant. When the reality is Franks was right, Shinseki was wrong!

 

105 posted on 04/14/2006 7:54:06 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Taht's right. Six months early.


106 posted on 04/14/2006 8:57:19 AM PDT by Gamecock ( "I save dead people" -- God (Eph 2:5)
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To: piasa

Thanks; nice compliation.


107 posted on 04/14/2006 12:22:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: HawaiianGecko

Very nice response. Thanks.


108 posted on 04/14/2006 1:10:00 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gamecock
***I will respect the opinion of a General who resigns in protest of a policy. When they stay until retirement....***

I mean resign in protest and speak out then, not wait until they think that they have maxed out on promotions.

109 posted on 04/14/2006 5:10:08 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: HawaiianGecko

Ping again


110 posted on 09/26/2006 8:28:32 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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