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Can Rumsfeld withstand backtalk of former commanders? - Rumsfeld flunking, ex-generals charge
ap on San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 4/13/06 | Tom Raum - ap

Posted on 04/13/2006 4:24:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – Crusty and unapologetic, Donald H. Rumsfeld is the public face of an unpopular war and a target of unrelenting criticism. A growing number of commanders who served under him say he has botched the Iraq operation, ignored the advice of his generals and should be replaced.

The White House insists the defense secretary retains President Bush's confidence. Few close to the administration expect him to be shown the door.

“The president believes Secretary Rumsfeld is doing a very fine job during a challenging period in our nation's history,” Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said Thursday as the administration circled its wagons around the embattled Pentagon chief.

Two more retired generals called for Rumsfeld's resignation on Thursday, bringing the number this month to six.

Retired Army Major Gen. John Riggs told National Public Radio that Rumsfeld fostered an “atmosphere of arrogance.” Retired Gen. Charles Swannack told CNN that Rumsfeld micromanaged the war. “We need a new secretary of defense,” he said.

Military experts say the parade of recently retired military brass calling for Rumsfeld's resignation is troubling and threatens to undermine strong support Bush has enjoyed among the officer corps and troops.

With public anti-war sentiment increasing, “the president and his team cannot afford to lose that support,” said Kurt Campbell, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense.

Yet for Bush to try to distance himself from Rumsfeld “would call into question everything about the last three years' strategy in ways the White House worries would send a very negative message,” said Campbell, now with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Joining the criticism earlier this week was retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who served as an infantry division commander in Iraq until last November. He called for a “fresh start at the Pentagon,” accusing Rumsfeld of ignoring sound military decision-making and seeking to intimidate those in uniform.

Earlier calls for Rumsfeld's replacement came from retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold and retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.

The most nettlesome member of Bush's Cabinet, Rumsfeld has been a lightning rod since the war began in March 2003.

He was blamed for committing too few U.S. troops and for underestimating the strength of the insurgency. He took heat in 2004 over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at the U.S. Army-run Abu Ghraib prison, and for a brusque response he gave to an Army National Guard soldier in Kuwait who questioned him on inadequate armor.

Republicans in Congress have offered Rumsfeld little in the way of public support.

Pentagon spokesman Eric Ruff said Thursday that Rumsfeld has not talked to the White House about resigning – and is not considering it.

As to the latest general to call for Rumsfeld's resignation, “I don't know how many generals there are. There are a couple thousand at least, and they're going to have opinions,” Ruff said. “It's not surprising, we're in a war.”

But it is surprising, especially because it's a time of war, said P.J. Crowley, a retired Air Force colonel who served as a Pentagon spokesman in both Republican and Democratic administrations and was a national security aide to former President Clinton.

“This is a very significant vote of no confidence and I think the president has to take this into account. The military is saying it does not trust its civilian leadership,” said Crowley, now a senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress.

Rumsfeld himself answered “no” when asked this week whether the march of retired generals was hurting his ability to do his job. “There's nothing wrong with people having opinions,” he said.

Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has become Rumsfeld's strongest defender in uniform. “He does his homework. He works weekends, he works nights. People can question my judgment or his judgment, but they should never question the dedication, the patriotism and the work ethic of Secretary Rumsfeld,” Pace said.

Clinton, a Vietnam war protester who avoided the draft, was mistrusted by many in the military, and some top-ranking officers publicly questioned his policies in congressional testimony. But Bush, a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam era, has counted on strong support on military bases, one of his favorite destinations.

Bush's dilemma, said Michael O'Hanlon, a military analyst with the Brookings Institution, is that Bush “shares a lot of the responsibility for the key decisions on Iraq.”

“Bush is implicated. For Bush to fire Rumsfeld is for Bush to declare himself a failure as president. Iraq is the main issue of his presidency,” said O'Hanlon, who supported Bush's decision to invade Iraq and said he still supports the war.


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To: NormsRevenge

By the way, folks, this writer Tom Raum is a Democrat left-wing POS traitor!!!


101 posted on 04/14/2006 6:15:25 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: HawaiianGecko
I may be wrong, but I don't recall a single Admiral complaining about the Secretary or for that matter an Air Force General.

As a sometime Air Force officer, I can tell you that what the AF prizes in its officers is uncritical enthusiasm for the program, whatever the program may be, including the exact opposite of yesterday's program. Principled objections and resignations-in-protest just aren't going to happen in the well-winnowed-out top grades.

102 posted on 04/14/2006 7:09:03 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Texas Eagle
Looks like Rumsfeld is ruffling some feathers over at the Pentagon and the roaches are rushing around trying to protect their buddies.

Shinseki and his ilk can go straight to hell for all I care.

103 posted on 04/14/2006 7:25:37 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Two-Bits

Amen to your post #71 and a heartfelt thank you to your son.


104 posted on 04/14/2006 7:27:09 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Gamecock; Rodentking; FreeReign
Then you haven't been paying attention. Rumsfeld fired Shinseki for saying just that. He was fired.

Actually it is you that hasn't been paying attention. John Kerry started this myth (lie) on Oct 8th 2003 in a debate with President Bush. His quote was "General Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, told him he was going to need several hundred thousand. And guess what? They retired General Shinseki for telling him that."

Although it is correct that Shinseki's advice was ignored, in fact his decision to retire was reported in the Washington Times  nearly a year before his February 25, 2003 testimony.

In fact Shinseki didn't even recommend 300,000 troops. His quote in committee was "Something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required," General Shinseki told members of the Senate Armed Services Committee today. General Shinseki made clear that he was providing only his personal assessment of postwar needs, and that the final decision would be made by the commander of American forces in the region, Gen. Tommy R. Franks. (Article by Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough, "Inside The Ring," Washington Times, April 19, 2002.)

I find it funny that some people simply assume that Generals who disagree are right, but the Generals that actually came up with the plan and executed the most successful military campaign in history are never given the credit for being correct.

Shinseki was right, Rumsfeld was wrong is the moronic chant. When the reality is Franks was right, Shinseki was wrong!

 

105 posted on 04/14/2006 7:54:06 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Taht's right. Six months early.


106 posted on 04/14/2006 8:57:19 AM PDT by Gamecock ( "I save dead people" -- God (Eph 2:5)
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To: piasa

Thanks; nice compliation.


107 posted on 04/14/2006 12:22:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: HawaiianGecko

Very nice response. Thanks.


108 posted on 04/14/2006 1:10:00 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gamecock
***I will respect the opinion of a General who resigns in protest of a policy. When they stay until retirement....***

I mean resign in protest and speak out then, not wait until they think that they have maxed out on promotions.

109 posted on 04/14/2006 5:10:08 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: HawaiianGecko

Ping again


110 posted on 09/26/2006 8:28:32 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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