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Bush had good reason to believe there were WMD in Iraq
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 4/12/06 | John Hughes

Posted on 04/12/2006 12:01:03 PM PDT by Caleb1411

Among the allegations leveled at President Bush by his critics, probably the most serious is that he took the United States to war in Iraq on false pretenses. He told the American people that Saddam Hussein had a collection of dangerous weapons of mass destruction when Mr. Hussein did not. In retrospect it is clear that the weapons did not exist, although they had in the past, and Hussein had used them against his enemies. But what is also clear from captured documents now coming to light is that Mr. Bush had every reason to believe they still existed at the time he launched the military campaign in Iraq. Not only did US and allied intelligence agencies assert that the weapons were there, but Hussein himself played a dangerous game of convincing enemies such as Iran, and even his own generals, that he had such weapons, while protesting to United Nations inspectors that he did not.

While Bush may have been badly misled by his own intelligence and other sources, he did not lie. He believed, and had good reason to believe, that the weapons existed.

From thousands of official Iraqi documents captured by American forces, and dozens of interviews with captured senior military and political leaders, a picture is now emerging of the world of delusion in which Hussein lived when he was in power. It is being chronicled in magazines such as the Weekly Standard and a forthcoming issue of Foreign Affairs and books such as "Cobra II." Written by New York Times reporter Michael Gordon and Gen. Bernard Trainor, the book is being hailed as one of the most comprehensive accounts of the war in Iraq.

Hussein was much more concerned about an internal coup, or a rebellion by dissident Shiites, or even an attack by Iran (with which he had fought a long war), than he was with an invasion by the US. Though he had largely disposed of his stocks of chemical and biological weapons in the 1990s, he encouraged the Iranians to believe he might have a hidden cache of them, a strategy called "deterrence by doubt." He did not take seriously a military threat from the US because he believed France and Russia would block the US diplomatically at the UN, and that in any event the Americans had little stomach for taking heavy casualties.

The Americans, however, took seriously the probability of confronting Hussein's WMD. When the president of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh, who had close ties with Hussein, told Vice President Cheney that Hussein did not want war but would use chemical weapons if attacked, Mr. Cheney did not blink. The Americans, said Cheney, would deal with them.

Bush ordered that, when the US assault started and the anticipated stockpiles of WMD were seized, they must be publicized. Gen. Tommy Franks, his military commander, arranged for specially trained public affairs camera crews to document the discoveries.

Initially it was planned that seized samples of WMD would be shipped to Kuwait for analysis, but when Kuwait balked at this, the 75th Field Artillery Brigade headquarters at Fort Sill, Okla., was assigned the task.

Messrs Gordon and Trainor say in their book that German agents in Baghdad tipped the American military to Hussein's plan for defending his capital. Concentric rings were to be manned by Iraqi units of varying trustworthiness. One of the circles was called the "red line." This was to be the final barrier, manned by Hussein's elite and most reliable troops. US military intelligence reasoned that as American troops reached this defense line they would be met by poison gas or germ weapons.

But within Hussein's war council, the story was very different. In December 2002, Hussein called his generals together for a surprising announcement: Iraq did not possess WMD. The generals were stunned. They had long assumed that they could count on a hidden cache of chemical or biological weapons. Iraq had used such weapons in the war with Iran. Hussein had convinced his generals that it was the threat of WMD that had enabled him to stop the Americans moving on Baghdad after the 1991 war.

According to "Cobra II," Tariq Aziz, Iraq's deputy prime minister, told American interrogators after the 2003 war that Hussein's stunning admission to the generals "sent morale plummeting."

The Bush critics can argue that the president was too gullible in accepting the conclusion of his intelligence agencies. But the evidence does not suggest that he knowingly lied to the American public about the existence of WMD.

John Hughes, a former editor of the Monitor, is editor and chief operating officer of the Deseret Morning News.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushlied; iraq; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; wmd; wot
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To: pcottraux
LOL, I suspect he is one and the same troll who was here earlier under the alias of CD4U. got the zot in one post on that guy.
61 posted on 04/12/2006 1:38:11 PM PDT by mware (an army of amateur's doing the job of the media)
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To: mware

He's made it to 3 this time. He's broken his own record!


62 posted on 04/12/2006 1:38:54 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: no_govt_takings

again check out jveritus's translatings of iraq documents just released. even the Boston Globe and the NYT's have had to acknowledge his contributions.


63 posted on 04/12/2006 1:39:33 PM PDT by mware (an army of amateur's doing the job of the media)
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To: no_govt_takings

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64 posted on 04/12/2006 1:41:06 PM PDT by mware (an army of amateur's doing the job of the media)
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To: mware

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65 posted on 04/12/2006 1:43:24 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

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66 posted on 04/12/2006 1:44:30 PM PDT by mware (an army of amateur's doing the job of the media)
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To: pcottraux

You can fool some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time.

He had them.

They are probably in Syria or Libya.

EVEN IF HE DIDN'T have WMD - and HE DID HAVE THEM, we had numerous other reasons to take him out:

1) He refused to comply with the agreement he signed after Persian Gulf 1 ( and fired on British and U.S. reconaisance plains)

2) He failed to fully cooperate with U.N inspectors

3) He was scamming us on the oil for food program

4) He tried to assasinate a U.S. President

5) He was funding Islamic terrrorists.

6) He was hosting Islamic terrorists

7) He very well may have been involved with the first World Trade Center Bombing, the Second World Trade Center Bombing and the Oklahoma City bombing.

8) He was in a position to threaten oil supplies to the entire world

9) Iraq, a terror state, was a keystone in a archway of terror states running from Afghanistan to Libya. Take it out and the arch is weakened. Take it out and you have Iran outflanked on the east and west and can threaten Syria from the east.

10) He was a dangerous lunatic who was a threat to us, his neighbors and the entire world.

What is it about the above that liberals don't understand?
Perhaps if it was written in crayons it might make more sense to them.


68 posted on 04/12/2006 1:49:00 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

"No way this is ChriSci Monitor!!"

My guess is that some definitive proof about the WMD is about to break, likely via the Iraqi documents, and certain parties are attempting to get out ahead on the story.


69 posted on 04/12/2006 1:51:02 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I say we nuke iran and iraq


70 posted on 04/12/2006 1:51:49 PM PDT by blt99
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To: mware; no_govt_takings

Well then I'll just have to refer you to the other excellent and informative posts on this thread involving Saddam's WMDs and his other great devious schemes.

Whoops!!! Too late!!!

BAM!!!!


71 posted on 04/12/2006 1:52:18 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: blt99; mware; ZULU

ANOTHER ONE!!!!!!!

Sheesh, that's 3 on one thread already!!!

Today's a hot day!!!


72 posted on 04/12/2006 1:53:21 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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73 posted on 04/12/2006 1:53:58 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: blt99

Oh brother


74 posted on 04/12/2006 1:54:26 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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75 posted on 04/12/2006 1:54:31 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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76 posted on 04/12/2006 1:54:54 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux; Admin Moderator

Chuck Norris wishes he was an Admin Moderator in the free republic


77 posted on 04/12/2006 1:55:26 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: pcottraux

I'm loving this. This proves that the Dummies & the Bush HATERS are getting nervous! BWAHAHAAAA!


78 posted on 04/12/2006 1:55:41 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: blt99
I say we nuke iran and iraq

I say we nuke YOU.

79 posted on 04/12/2006 1:55:42 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

Another one WHAT??


80 posted on 04/12/2006 1:56:24 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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