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Dutch Feminazis Want to Punish Educated Mothers
Brussels English Journal ^ | March 31, 2006 | Alexandra Colen

Posted on 04/11/2006 9:22:06 AM PDT by robowombat

Dutch Feminazis Want to Punish Educated Mothers

From the desk of Alexandra Colen on Fri, 2006-03-31 11:49

Sharon DijksmaSharon Dijksma, a leading parliamentarian of the Dutch Labour Party (PvdA) wants to penalise educated stay-at-home women. “A highly-educated woman who chooses to stay at home and not to work – that is destruction of capital,” she said in an interview last week. “If you receive the benefit of an expensive education at society’s expense, you should not be allowed to throw away that knowledge unpunished.”

Hence her proposal to recover part of the cost of their education from highly-educated women who decide not to seek paid work. Between 2001 and 2005 the number of Dutch women aged between 15 and 65 who were out on the labour market rose from 55.9 to 58.7 per cent. Dijksma says she wants to stimulate more women to join the work force. In the municipal elections earlier this month the PvdA became the biggest party in the Netherlands thanks to the Muslim vote. The PvdA is generally expected to win the general elections next year, when the 35 year old Dijksma, who has been an MP since she was 23 and is a leading figure in the party, might become a government minister.

On her weblog Dijksma explains that her proposal is a logical consequence of the Dutch system of subsidizing students. Society finances their studies with government scholarships, hence it is only normal that they pursue a professional career or repay. “If someone chooses not to work, then there should be a substantial repayment,” she said.

Most Dutch women who decide not to seek paid jobs do so in order to care for their children. Consequently the Dutch media refer to Dijksma’s proposal as “the PvdA Mother Plan.” The proposal elicited fierce criticism, some of which was aimed at Dijksma’s person. Twice the politician started a college course, and twice she failed to complete the course: her grades were poor, and anyway, at the age of 23 she was already a well-paid MP. Angry Dutch bloggers demanded that Dijksma pay back the costs of her unfinished studies before going after the mothers. “Let the fat cow repay her own scholarships first, because that was a real waste of public money,” one of the bloggers wrote.

The PvdA website has come to the rescue of the beleaguered politician, repeating the stance that those who study at the taxpayers’ expense and do not join the workforce are guilty of “destruction of capital.” Edith Snoey, the leader of the biggest Dutch trade union, who has made a similar proposal to Dijksma’s, wrote on her weblog that Dijksma had expressed herself somewhat unfortunately by giving the impression that she was only focusing on women, while the sanction should also apply to educated men who do not want to join the workforce. However, Snoey said, Dijksma’s mistake was unintentional. The union leader added that the politician should continue the fight: “Cheer up, Sharon. Let us proceed, because we aim for the same goal: more women in the labour force.”

Since the sixties, socialist feminists like Dijksma and Snoey have refused to accept that women also contribute to the wellbeing of society by investing in children. The time, energy, money, talent, and indeed education invested in the upbringing of children produces greater benefits for society as a whole than the pursuit of individual wealth and satisfaction. Apparently Dijksma’s ideal world is one where educated people spend their lives partying and spending, while the future of society is left to depend on a generation of children raised by poor and uneducated mothers. If all children come from disadvantaged families, the state can step in to “take care” of them.

If Dijksma and Snoey were honest in their materialistic logic they ought at least to deduct a sum equivalent to what the government spends on the average disadvantaged child throughout its education (and possibly its entire life) from the amount that they are demanding back from educated mothers. Perhaps when all is added up they might decide that it would make more sense to penalise women who choose not to have children in order to pursue their careers.

Indeed, as a vital resource of any civilisation is its future generation, refusing to have children is a “destruction of capital.” What use is a market when there is no-one to participate in it? Society should allow educated mothers to raise their own children, rather than punish them.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fatcow; lowiq; netherlands; radicalfeminists; stayathomemoms; women
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Something a President Hilabat would like to see enacted here.
1 posted on 04/11/2006 9:22:08 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

"“A highly-educated woman who chooses to stay at home and not to work – that is destruction of capital,”"

Wow, that is shocking. I guess humans are just a cog in the socialist machine over there. What a horrible thing to say.

"A destruction of capital". Marx would be proud.


2 posted on 04/11/2006 9:26:22 AM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: robowombat

Completely logical. If the people are forced to pay for someone's eduction, they deserve to get something in return.


3 posted on 04/11/2006 9:26:37 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: mc6809e

Take the King's coin, do the King's bidding.


4 posted on 04/11/2006 9:28:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: LongsforReagan
"A destruction of capital". Marx would be proud.

You don't know much about Marx, do you?

What she says is true. It is a form of capital destruction. A real capitalist would understand this.

Besides, no one forced them to use the government subsidy. If they refuse and go to a private school, then there are no strings attached.

5 posted on 04/11/2006 9:30:41 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: robowombat

From each, according to their ability (Where have I heard that before?)


6 posted on 04/11/2006 9:34:19 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Computers in the future may have only 1000 vacuum tubes..." - Popular Mechanics, March 1949)
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Sharon DijksmaSharon Dijksma, a leading parliamentarian of the Dutch Labour Party (PvdA) wants to penalise educated stay-at-home women.

Just wanting the next generation of Dutch children being raised by the worst and dimmest.

7 posted on 04/11/2006 9:34:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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To: LongsforReagan

The only thing this lot knows about 'capital' is that it is something to be confiscated as convenient.


8 posted on 04/11/2006 9:45:32 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: mc6809e
A capitalist would reply that, if such is the case, there needed to have been in place a formal contract stating as much at the time that the women in question were attending university. Something along the lines of ROTC, perhaps. However, there was no such contract at that/those times.

What these wannabee tyrants are insisting on is quite different, to wit, changing the rules of the game after the fact.

Any real capitalist would understand this.

9 posted on 04/11/2006 9:49:40 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ
A capitalist would reply that,

[blah, blah, blah]

What does any of that have to do with the claim there is or is not a destruction of capital when women don't apply their education?

Your complaints that there is no contract, etc, etc, make no difference. Money was spent to build an educated person with the expectation that that person would later give back something to society. Intellectual capital is involved here.

And even if the idea of contracts were somehow relevant, it could be argued that the expectation that the knowledge would be applied was there all along, even if only implicitly.

How many people argue for education subsidies based on the idea that it should be done as an act of simple charity? Very few people argue this. Many of the calls for public education are made with the argument that it will somehow help the economy, or produce more productive workers, etc.

10 posted on 04/11/2006 10:07:21 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: SAJ
In 1967, I signed a contract with the US Government to enlist in the military for 2 years active duty. I served my two years duty, including a tour in Vietnam. After Vietnam, I returned to college, using a portion of my GI Bill educational benefits. In 1981, having remaining benefits, I decided to use them to add a Certified Flight Instructor rating to my Commercial Pilot License.

After a few days at the flight school I was told that Congress had just changed the GI Bill and that benefits could no longer be used for flight training. I called my Senator's office to ask why & how this was done. They said that Congress felt that many veterans were using the flight training benefits for "joy riding".

"So what does that matter?", I asked. "Lots of guys went back to college on the GI Bill just to party. I need this CFI rating for my work. I signed a contract with the government in 1967, served my time, including combat, thereby fulfilling my side of the contract. How can Congress change a contract after the fact?"

The Senator's secretary said, "Yes, it is a dirty deal, but basically, Congress can do what it wants."
11 posted on 04/11/2006 10:10:17 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Actions have consequences.")
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“Let the fat cow repay her own scholarships first, because that was a real waste of public money,” one of the bloggers wrote.

HA! Owned!


12 posted on 04/11/2006 10:11:23 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: LongsforReagan

LOL, to tell you the truth, I think even Karl Marx would shake his head over that one. :P


13 posted on 04/11/2006 10:13:04 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: robowombat

This is a short-sighted proposal, as it ignores the fact that many women raise children and then go back into the workforce when their kids are grown.


14 posted on 04/11/2006 10:13:58 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Unfettered gun ownership is the highest expression of civil rights.)
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To: LongsforReagan
Wow, that is shocking. I guess humans are just a cog in the socialist machine over there

It's not just there, these are the socialist/communist/Marxist beliefs everywhere. To them, we're all human capital to be used and disposed of how THEY see fit.

15 posted on 04/11/2006 10:14:34 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: SAJ

Moreover, a smart capitalist or even a socialist would understand that there is an economic benefit to the raising of happy, well-adjusted children.


16 posted on 04/11/2006 10:14:54 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: BwanaNdege
Completely unfair, and my point precisely. Changing the rules of the game after the fact is simply wrong, no further comment required.

Changing a contract post facto is a classic instance of this in your case, as is -- effectively -- decreeing a non-existent condition applicable post facto, in the case of Dutch women.

There is one substantive difference between your and the Dutch womens' situation, though. In your case, a previously agreed-to benefit was changed to your disadvantage; you might or might not have had other recourse. In their case, they are threatened with confiscation of property, without any recourse (should this nonsense be enacted).

17 posted on 04/11/2006 10:23:17 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: The Old Hoosier

Indeed. These radical femmies need to spend a good deal of time with Captain Obvious.


18 posted on 04/11/2006 10:24:38 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: robowombat

Let's see...more women in the workplace means less children and eventually...less women in the workplace. Either way, it's a loser for the feminazis. Or more honestly, feminazis are losers.


19 posted on 04/11/2006 10:27:25 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: mc6809e
Post 15 is an excellent response to your attitude.

To which I will append, as regarding intellectual capital:

''I want you to think! ''
''How will your gun make me do that, Mr. Thompson?''

======

Ho hum. Just another tiresome, run-of-the-mill totalitarian attempting an incognito.

20 posted on 04/11/2006 10:31:36 AM PDT by SAJ
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