[conserv13]

Say what you want about him, yes he's liberal.

Hefner is an American icon. He changed the world forever, I think for the better.

[veronica]

Hefner is an American icon. He changed the world forever, I think for the better.

If he's an "icon", so is Larry Flynt. Hefner's lurid obsessions fed the sicko sixties. He changed the world, but not for the better IMO.

[mlc9852]

Exactly how did Mr. Heffner change the world for the better?

[ArGee]

But, America would not be awash in porn were it not for the overwhelming demand.

I am genuinely interested. How do you think Hefner changed the world for the better?

Shalom.

[MHGinTN]

Care to enumerate this 'better' ... would you like to explain how the explosion of porn and sexual degeneracy, followed closely by the 44 million abortions (the yearly average prior to the sixties was near 500,000, but in the past thirty-three years we've 'accomplished' more than 44, 000,000) has actually improved society? Do you even understand what the assault on moral behavior (yes, Hefner encourages a 'new morality') does to the family as a societal unit, to the concept of personal responsibility? Do you understand that porn does in the brain what addictive drugs do in the brain? ... Oh why am I wasting time with this fruitless invitation to introspection?

[mkjessup]

Say what you want about him, yes he's liberal. Hefner is an American icon. He changed the world forever, I think for the better.

If a bunch of rev'd up males with their testosterone whipped up by Hefner's depravity or any other pornographic product, had sexually assaulted your mother, sister or daughter, you might not think this world has been changed for the "better".

Hefner and his pornographic soul brothers and sisters have cheapened the human soul, elevated the worth of mere flesh to heights it is not entitled to, let alone capable of, and the gift of sexual pleasure, GIVEN to us by Almighty God, has been twisted, perverted and presented as nothing more than the recreational exertion of muscles and nerves, all for the gratification of the senses.

Hefner, for his own selfishness and greed, built a spiritual concentration camp for our souls, and too many of us were more than happy to become inmates.

[Antoninus]

Hefner is an American icon. He changed the world forever, I think for the better.

Sure. If pornography is your endorphin-rush/addiction of choice. Using the same criteria, bootleggers and drug runners chang the world for the better as well.

Way to testify on a public forum.

[Flavius Josephus]

Sexual repression: Bad.

Sexual promiscuity: Bad.

[Flavius Josephus]

What I mean to say is, it is a GOOD thing that we're no longer shocked by people like those women who strip down in public to protest the war or other public policy. It's GOOD that we can't be intimidated by homosexuals in leather on parade throats. It's GOOD to have a healthy understanding of what goes on in the world. It teaches us that sex is fire, and if not properly used it burns and destroys.

[Calpernia]

>>>>He changed the world forever, I think for the better

Ah yes. The celebration of the exploited woman!

Porn! Sex Tourism! Hookers and pimps! Rape and abuse!

TESTIMONY OF ROSA, AGE 14
before U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee

When I was fourteen, a man came to my parents' house in Veracruz, Mexico and asked me if I was interested in making money in the United States. He said I could make many times as much money doing the same things that I was doing in Mexico. At the time, I was working in a hotel cleaning rooms and I also helped around my house by watching my brothers and sisters. He said I would be in good hands, and would meet many other Mexican girls who had taken advantage of this great opportunity. My parents didn't want me to go, but I persuaded them.

A week later, I was smuggled into the United States through Texas to Orlando, Florida. It was then the men told me that my employment would consist of having sex with men for money. I had never had sex before, and I had never imagined selling my body.

And so my nightmare began. Because I was a virgin, the men decided to initiate me by raping me again and again, to teach me how to have sex. Over the next three months, I was taken to a different trailer every 15 days. Every night I had to sleep in the same bed in which I had been forced to service customers all day.

I couldn't do anything to stop it. I wasn't allowed to go outside without a guard. Many of the bosses had guns. I was constantly afraid. One of the bosses carried me off to a hotel one night, where he raped me. I could do nothing to stop him.

Because I was so young, I was always in demand with the customers. It was awful. Although the men were supposed to wear condoms, some didn't, so eventually I became pregnant and was forced to have an abortion. They sent me back to the brothel almost immediately.

I cannot forget what has happened. I can't put it behind me. I find it nearly impossible to trust people. I still feel shame. I was a decent girl in Mexico. I used to go to church with my family. I only wish none of this had ever happened.

[go-dubya-04]

He changed America for the better?! You're kidding, right? I'll say what I want about him and it ain't that he's an American icon. He's considered an icon because of the sick, twisted media that adores him.
How did he -personnaly- change America for the better? I gotta hear this. It ought to be good.