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Jesus ice walker?
physorg.co. ^ | 4 April 2006

Posted on 04/11/2006 2:08:20 AM PDT by ekeni

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The ice floe theory (Jesus apparently walked on a conveniently handy ice floe and not water) is a move away from the “Jesus walked on a sandbar” theory that seems to have sunk without trace. Here are some questions that could be floated out to the ice floe theorist. Did the ice floe start at the shoreline? Since the gospel says the lake was very rough at the time how did Jesus walk on an ice floe in rough water? How do you “steer” an ice floe? Did it conveniently float out to where the boat was? Wouldn’t the fishermen (Peter and John) stay on shore at night if an ice floe was “about’, or keep clear of it if they saw it while out fishing? If there was an ice floe to walk on why did Peter the disciple think he was sinking in water when Jesus called him out of the boat? Why would the disciples then worship Jesus? For walking on an ice floe, or for showing excellent balance? Then the revelation came to me. Jesus was simply a truly divine surfer!
1 posted on 04/11/2006 2:08:20 AM PDT by ekeni
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To: ekeni

natural scientists idiots?


2 posted on 04/11/2006 2:10:56 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: ekeni

Now maybe some will understand why many don't believe anything these "scientists" say. i.e. evolution... gross speculation


3 posted on 04/11/2006 2:14:00 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

LOL, I think you're on to something there.


4 posted on 04/11/2006 2:16:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: ekeni

There's an irreverent song called "Jesus was Way Cool." (if you don't enjoy south park - don't listen to the song).

Anyhow, the Ice flow theory sounds a lot cooler than I mean any two bit god can make matter do what he wants it to do. But only the son of the one true God can invent Surfing.


5 posted on 04/11/2006 2:17:22 AM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: DoughtyOne
don't really want to turn this into a evo debate, just the way I feel about it.
6 posted on 04/11/2006 2:19:41 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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"......(Jesus apparently walked on a conveniently handy ice floe and not water)......."

It makes no difference whether he walked on ice or ????
The point is time has proven to me that l like him in my life and My World. Feel your time would best be spent on loving and believing his ways.

Glad though that you had a chance to get the animosity off your chest while studying this issue. Just about every issue re: Jesus has been turned over and over by non- believers. Jesus taught me to work at Loving others as myself. The world needs more reciprocal love (good thoughts about others) these days.


7 posted on 04/11/2006 2:23:16 AM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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"......(Jesus apparently walked on a conveniently handy ice floe and not water)......."

It makes no difference whether he walked on ice or ????
The point is time has proven to me that l like him in my life and My World. Feel your time would best be spent on loving and believing his ways.

Glad though that you had a chance to get the animosity off your chest while studying this issue. Just about every issue re: Jesus has been turned over and over by non- believers. Jesus taught me to work at Loving others as myself. The world needs more reciprocal love (good thoughts about others) these days.


8 posted on 04/11/2006 2:23:37 AM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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"......(Jesus apparently walked on a conveniently handy ice floe and not water)......."

It makes no difference whether he walked on ice or ????
The point is time has proven to me that l like him in my life and My World. Feel your time would best be spent on loving and believing his ways.

Glad though that you had a chance to get the animosity off your chest while studying this issue. Just about every issue re: Jesus has been turned over and over by non- believers. Jesus taught me to work at Loving others as myself. The world needs more reciprocal love (good thoughts about others) these days.


9 posted on 04/11/2006 2:23:41 AM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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More liberal nonsense. 1st they deny the existence of Jesus. When that fails, they try to discredit with this ice stuff. I can't wait to see how they explain curing the blind and raising the dead.
10 posted on 04/11/2006 2:26:17 AM PDT by mysonsfuture
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To: Echo Talon

Me either, but I do get a little tired of scientists trying to explain away God.


11 posted on 04/11/2006 2:29:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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I agree.


12 posted on 04/11/2006 2:48:14 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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"he walked on an isolated patch of floating ice."

How does one walk on an isolated patch of floating ice without slipping and falling down?

Have you ever seen penguins on ice? They slip and slide and fall down constantly, and that is their natural environment.

It just took me all of two minutes to destroy the "years of study" it took those Libidiots to concoct.
13 posted on 04/11/2006 2:56:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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But only the son of the one true God can invent Surfing.

Man you have the makings of a real theologian -- and I don't even surf!

Note, it's not just surfing, but ICE surfing ... in one direction ... from one shore to another ... in sandals! Not to mention the robe thing and, of course, the halo. (Tune in next week for an explanation of how once in every bakillion years a person walks around with a circular flourescent bulb hoevring over his head.)

And He just happened to be there, and to want to go from one shore to the other on the one or two times in 12 gazillion trafillion years that there would have "naturally" been a convenient chunk o' ice for Him to surf on.

But no miracle was involved, nosirree! Of that we can be sho'!

DadGUM, the study of science is so liberating! I'm finalaly free of the dreadful burden of believing in a God who loves me so much He is willing to die for me, and whose love is so powerful that it can turn death to life and evil to good. Ah, the cool clear air of understanding that He commands not only wind and waves, but also ice .....

No wait, that doesn't make any sense. Oh yeah, NONE of this makes any sense.

14 posted on 04/11/2006 2:57:40 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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By the way, why don't they give a demonstration?

It's only been 2,000 years, how come no one else has done this?


15 posted on 04/11/2006 3:03:47 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: ekeni

Wouldn't it be easier to assume that the story was made up than to believe a rare ice condition existed at this precise moment in time?


16 posted on 04/11/2006 3:04:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Dude don't change scripture.


17 posted on 04/11/2006 3:05:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?;))
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I’ve seen this on several news programs and find a few things wrong with it.
1. The disciples left from the shore, the water was not yet frozen.
2. Jesus walked out to the boat “during the 4th watch of the night” – not enough time for the lake to freeze enough to walk on.
3. Not only did Peter step from the boat for his water walk, but after Jesus saved him they both stepped back into the boat. This would have required the boat to be alongside the ice sheet during a storm with high winds.
These men weren’t weekend sailors. They were professional commercial fishermen. No way they would have brought a sailing boat alongside a thick ice sheet during a storm.


18 posted on 04/11/2006 3:06:51 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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Not necessarily idiots, just not familiar with the story.


19 posted on 04/11/2006 3:07:23 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: twidle

it does matter if he walked on ice. this silly theory shows that the so called scientist never familiarized himself with even the barest of facts available in the three eyewitness accounts.

so much for so called scientists using scientific methods...(Uh, like studying all the data before determining findings....which of course, the skeptics never do--they only examine the data they like).

it takes more faith to buy into this little theory than the actual truth. jesus was just surfing in a very large storm on ice and big tough fishermen were afraid for and died for nothing except a guy that surfs. very clever theory. but college kids and people that don't know their bibles are fooled all the time by these lame attacks.


20 posted on 04/11/2006 3:16:22 AM PDT by applpie
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