Posted on 04/10/2006 8:24:37 AM PDT by Danae
Welcome back all concerned!
Just to clarify, this is a thread discussing both what is happening LIVE across the country as Illegal Immigrants protest their Illegality, and what to do about it. Let's discuss VIABLE options as to what to do about this issue. I have a sneaking suspicion that this "Protest" of American LAW is going to be pretty big. I predict that there is going to be a LOT of pandering to these 11 million or so criminals by our Politicians. I sincerely hope not. To any and all Politicos of all parties, WE the PEOPLE are watching you, and LISTENING to what you are going to say today. 289 million of us LEGAL citizens will see with pristine clarity just WHO in the Political arena is looking out for US, the people who VOTED you into Office in the first place. The biggest question on my mind and perhaps one or two others is: Are you going to protect and serve as you promised and swore to up-hold the Constitution or not? Are you going to up-hold out law or are you going to support the Illegal’s? 298 million to 11 million. You do the math. Let’s roll.
Playing salsa, Latino music...singing in Spanish while waving MY American Flag, when they'd rather be flying their own.
Poor Old Glory...
sw
We can do nothing. We are defeated. Our "leaders" have made the decision to Mexicanize the USA (see the link in my previous post). There are too many deep-pocketed "interests" who have gotten themselves "the best government money can buy", and they ARE going to get what they paid for.
If we make TOO much noise, we'll have a variety of taunters, ranging from "paid to post" shills, all the way up to Karl Rove, saying, "What are you going to do, vote for Hillary?" -- and "the base" will once again hold its collective nose and vote "R".
They KNOW that they own our votes. Oh, maybe not mine, or yours -- but the vast majority of "the base" IS "owned".
This is reality.
It sucks.
We can see it for what it is, or we can whistle past the graveyard.
Right now, we're in a postion chillingly similar to the French in 1940. (Look up what happened to France in 1940. Hint: "Keyword: Vichy")
God forbid that the Organizers allow the AMERICAN public wee that they really are trying to take part of this nation and make it part of Mexico.
Here's a question, say by some stroke of Evil, these Illegals DO get legalized, and they vote in Ca, Az and NM to ceede from the Union? Then what? If they can bring this many to a rally, will these people also take the trouble to go to the Voting booth???
That is a troubling thought.
very good LOL
The 50,000 Mexican march and rally in San DIego yesterday was soooo organized that Americans need to get a clue.
I was there at the counter rally.
This just didn't happen, this was going on in the 1990s and earlier only folks were to busy with their big screen TVs etc. If Americans would have been as enraged in the 1990s this wouldn't have extended into a cancer
There is also Soros money financing this revolt.
When these riots first began I wondered aloud (check my posting history from that timeframe if you care to verify) if Soros was involved in it. It just did NOT seem "spontaneous", it DID seem choreographed. It reeked of the kind of instigation and provocation he is famous for. Some days later, the news came in that he was indeed involved.
Of course, the primary blame lies with our "leaders", who are handing over the goods after nothing more frightening than a few "quiet riots" in the streets.
We have given up our "moral superiority" over Spain. Never again can we lecture THEM for the way THEY voted after the train attack. I mean, look at what THEY endured before waving the white flag to THEIR attackers.
True, they surrendered to their attackers -- but it took a brutal, violent attack.
WE surrendered to OUR invaders after nothing more than a bunch of milling about in the streets.
We need to swap-out the Red, White, and Blue for the White, White, and White flag of surrender.
But wait, there's more!
Our "leaders" would have surrendered even if there weren't ANY "take it to the streets" action. There is an agenda, and it IS going to happen. You can take that to the bank. See the link a few posts up (I put it in two separate replies). Read it and weep. Weep for your country, because it's going down the crapper.
This is a painful, but I think imperative step.
susie
They will ignore us.
They know that no matter what we say, when push comes to shove, they'll go, "Boo! What're you gonna do, elect Hillary?" -- and we will hustle on down to the pollint place, hold our nose, and vote "for the lesser of two evils", otherwise known as "R".
They look at "the base", and smirk, because they KNOW that they OWN our votes.
Oh, not you -- not me -- but for the MILLIONS that make up "the base", it'll be "hold nose and pull lever R" time in November. And they know it.
Arlen Lord Specter came right out and said it today -- they're gonna wait two weeks for us to "cool off", and then they're gonna ram this sucker home.
Don't kid yourself. There are DEEP-pocketed "interests" who are the ones that "our" (ahem) "leaders" listen to, and obey.
WE are mere "voters" -- and they can control the likes of us by holding up the Hillary Voodoo Doll and going "Boo!"
He lived in TX for years. I don't see how he cannot possibly not understand how it affects us.
susie
My own comments would get me in serious trouble here so I'll refrain. I will say however that I'm becoming increasingly disgusted with our leaders in general, Democrats AND Republicans. It's time to boot them all and start over. They have failed. Every last one of them.
Oh, they vote, alright. And "our leaders" know it. Thank "motor-voter" for THAT abomination.
The Criminal Alien "constituency" is right now being whored to by Our Glorious Leaders.
Disgusting, isn't it? Rather infuriating, you say? Well, get used to it, cuz' there's lots more where that came from.
They left the door open (border WIDE open), to create the "problem" -- so that they could roll in with the "solution".
The "solution" of course being something the country would never tolerate, had it not been beaten over the head, and then checkmated by tens of millions of CRIMINAL ALIENS in their midst.
It's an old tactic. Called the "hegelian dialectic", among other things. Worked like a charm for a certain Little Austrian who wanted to consolidate HIS power. HIS "problem"? The scoundrels who "burned down the Reichstag". His "solution"? The "Enabling Law" (basically, "The Patriot Act, but written in German).
Of course, it was HIS stooges who burned down the building, but hey, let's not let stuff like THAT get in the way of an agenda, shall we?
Just like we're not supposed to notice how for DECADES the gov't played dumb, pretending it didn't know what was going on at the border, or, that it couldn't DO anything about it.
No, can't do anything about it. Gotta let it grow, and grow, and grow.. and THEN, lo and behold, you CAN "do something about it."
Funny, though, how that "something" is a "something" the country would have been absolutely bonkers over if they'd tried it ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.
But now, we're supposed to be sufficiently softened up that we'll accept it as "the best compromise that can be delivered."
How stupid do they think we are?
Pretty damn stupid, I'd say, judging by the crap they feed us.
Be my guest!
So how do we, the American people fix this? Please somebody help me out on this cause I'm out of ideas, save violent revolution of course.
He knows.
He is not doing what he is doing out of "ignorance."
He is doing it because he CHOOSES to do it.
You know, until a few days ago, I felt that the best approach was a combination of enforcement and earned legalization of one sort or another.
But, watching these rallies, it's become clear to me that we need to act: now.
This isn't "immigration." It's a massive human invasion and it needs to be treated as such. Look at how many people they can put into the streets. There's a whole Begluim within the United States. In five or ten years there will be an Australia. Within twenty a Canada. Thrity a Great Britian.
What was it that Enoch Powell said? Like the Roman, I seem to see the Tibur foaming with much blood.
Deporting twelve million (probably more, actually) people will be horribly divisive, probably cost the Republican Party the White House in 2008 (and the Congress in 2006) and kill at least a few hundred people.
But it might be necessary.
What else was it that Powell said - that to guard against preventable evils is the supreme function of statesmanship?
If something isn't done, there's going to be another Civil War, I daresay.
Not this August, nor next August. That'll be too soon. Not, indeed, in the days of my youth. But the decade after that or the decade after that, we fight.
sw
We don't.
We can't.
We endure it.
Sorry, not all problems CAN be fixed. When a nation of our size and scope has been so systematically destroyed, with a variety of cancers allowed -- ENCOURAGED -- to spread throughout the "body" -- there is nothing that can be done to "save the patient". (It's not just Mexican criminal aliens. There is also the wide-open border that has addmitted countless Islamic radicals. And then there's the federal program designed to ENCOURAGE Muslims to emigrate from middle eastern countries. You can't make up stuff like this!)
You are like a Frenchman in 1940. What do you do? You ENDURE it.
The big difference of course is that the Frenchman had "The French Resistance" as an option. NO such option avails for the likes of us. The French Resistance existed as an organ of "The Allies". It was the USA that was the backup for the French Resistance. If the French lived in a world in which "The Allies" had been knocked over, there'd be no "Resistance".
Of course, WE live in exacty such a world. There's nowhere left to run.
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