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Young Officers Leaving Army at a High Rate
New York Times ^ | April 10, 2006 | THOM SHANKER

Posted on 04/10/2006 8:20:44 AM PDT by 68skylark

WASHINGTON, April 9 — Young Army officers, including growing numbers of captains who leave as soon as their initial commitment is fulfilled, are bailing out of active-duty service at rates that have alarmed senior officers. Last year, more than a third of the West Point class of 2000 left active duty at the earliest possible moment, after completing their five-year obligation.

It was the second year in a row of worsening retention numbers, apparently marking the end of a burst of patriotic fervor during which junior officers chose continued military service at unusually high rates.

Mirroring the problem among West Pointers, graduates of reserve officer training programs at universities are also increasingly leaving the service at the end of the four-year stint in uniform that follows their commissioning.

To entice more to stay, the Army is offering new incentives this year, including a promise of graduate school on Army time and at government expense to newly commissioned officers who agree to stay in uniform for three extra years. Other enticements include the choice of an Army job or a pick of a desirable location for a home post.

The incentives resulted in additional three-year commitments from about one-third of all new officers entering active duty in 2006, a number so large that it surprised even the senior officers in charge of the program. But the service's difficulty in retaining current captains has generals worriedly discussing among themselves whether the Army will have the widest choice possible for its next generation of leaders.

The program was begun this year to counter pressures on junior officers to leave active duty, including the draw of high-paying jobs in the private sector; the desires of a spouse for a calmer civilian quality of life...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; retention
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To: 68skylark
Duhhh! If the these young officers are leaving after they've fulfilled their commitments - NO problem and NOT an issue.

If these young officers are trying to leave BEFORE fulfilling their commitments - then the Army really didn't these with a proper mindset to serve anyway AND good riddance!

21 posted on 04/10/2006 8:45:38 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu
"...really didn't these with a proper mindset to..." SHOULD BE "really didn't have real officers with a proper mindset to..."
22 posted on 04/10/2006 8:47:52 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: longtermmemmory

The shortage is mostly with Captains and Lieutenants -- especially Captains. Few of these folks were serving during the Clinton Administration.


23 posted on 04/10/2006 8:48:19 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: harpu
The Army feels this is an issue -- they want to retain officers at a higher rate.

I posted this article partly because I wanted to help get the word out -- the Army is offering better and better perks to those who want to take on this challenge.

24 posted on 04/10/2006 8:53:25 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
The issue is....if I recall correctly.... It takes 8 years to get the next promotion after making Captain. That is a long time.

Nine years of one's life dedicated to the military....four in the academy and five more on active duty is a patriotic commitment that is to be honored.

25 posted on 04/10/2006 8:54:08 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thanks for your service. If you served during X42 I can fully understand your dissatisfaction with the bureaucracy.


26 posted on 04/10/2006 8:55:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (AMERICA WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE IF IT WERE NOT ALSO THE HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: 68skylark
The problem doesn't look as bad at the Times would like us to think. The real news was the drop in '02 and '03, and the fact that the attrition is still low in '04, '05 and '06.

I'd like to see a second line on that chart that plots economic performance. The spike in loss-rate in 98-00 corresponds almost directly with the peak of the internet boom/tech bubble ... when there was a LOT of incentive for young officers to leave the service for the private sector.

With the economy continuing to grow out of the Clinton Recession, I think it more likely that we're seeing the same effect - good private sector jobs that are more appealing than a career in the service.
27 posted on 04/10/2006 8:57:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 68skylark

This was an issue already when I was a 2LT in AK in 1997.

Nothing new - Just now we have a war and this is spun into another "The war is bad" story.

There is neither a right nor wrong answer for why people want to serve. Main thing is they do their job and do it well.

Many join for a free education. Nothing wrong with that as long as they do a good job when in uniform. Most do, in fact many of these guys stay on board and make it a career. I believe over 50% of those who initially come in eventually retire. Not a bad statistic, especially when considering the risk, family separation, moves, wife subordinating her career etc associated with Army life.

The “spin” here is obviously that Iraq is the root of the problem. Just like there stories of recruiting short falls, which were overblown and then when the quota was met they didn’t find that worthwhile to cover; this too is a straw man they found to beat up on.

(A little insight) Most officers who get out, do so when a 1LT or CPT. Once you go over 10 years you see a retirement at 20. What is happening is what always has happened. Officers at the rank of 1LT and CPT are making the decision to get out since many of them either chose a career path that they don’t like. They might have ended their career through bad moves on their part and choose to cut their loses. Their family might dictate (Wife’s career, lifestyle etc) that this officer departs. Some get offers from the outside that are to good to pass up. Corporate America pays well in certain career paths. There are many reasons why officers leave. The war is a minor one. This is not new. This is another NYT’s spin.


28 posted on 04/10/2006 8:59:54 AM PDT by Red6
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To: 68skylark
Part of the problem is the pyramid: sure they army wants to retain more captains because they need them, but a good number of those captains won't make major (at least on active duty).

Seems to me any smart captain who isn't selected for major below the zone who look at the career prospects in the Army, and on civvy street, know it's a good time to go to grad school and/or get a job rather than just waiting around.

I don't mean to minimize the problem, but I'm not sure what to do about it long term.

29 posted on 04/10/2006 9:00:01 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: dirtboy

"So, in other words, the graph tells us that Bill Clinton's presidency drove a higher percentage of young officers out of the military than the Iraq War has."

DING DING DING

We have a winner!


30 posted on 04/10/2006 9:05:02 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: tanknetter
Yeah, I think everyone will agree with you that the economy has a lot to do with this.

The Army has to design cost-effective incentives to keep a certain percentage of good people -- it isn't easy with so many other opportunities in this country.

31 posted on 04/10/2006 9:05:49 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
The Army has to design cost-effective incentives to keep a certain percentage of good people -- it isn't easy with so many other opportunities in this country.

How are the other branches doing with officer retention? If the Marines, Navy and Air Force aren't having the same problems then it could be a cultural problem with the branch, not an incentive issue.

32 posted on 04/10/2006 9:12:16 AM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: 68skylark
The problem doesn't look as bad at the Times would like us to think. The real news was the drop in '02 and '03, and the fact that the attrition is still low in '04, '05 and '06.

Just another of the Slimes near-lies.
33 posted on 04/10/2006 9:13:30 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Ignorance of the 10th Amendment should disqualify a person from holding office or being a teacher)
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To: 68skylark

Perhaps they want to get out before Hillary becomes CinC.


34 posted on 04/10/2006 9:14:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: cryptical
That's a good question -- I don't know.

Part of the problem with the Army is that they want to grow the overall force -- while the AF and Navy have been shrinking recently. Not only does the Army want to grow by 30,000 troops, but the design of the new brigades have relatively more jobs for lieutenants and captains.

This article doesn't talk about the Army reserve components -- I understand they have a worse officer shortage than the active component.

35 posted on 04/10/2006 9:19:15 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: greasepaint

There is a serious shortage of E-6's and E-7's, at least with the 10th Mountain Div. The E-6, E-7 shortage is due somewhat to the Army's reduction in retirement benefits, RIF, etc., starting in the early 90's. If you recall, many ANG and Reserve units have had 18 mo average tours in Iraq and Afghanistan because of the E-6 and E-7 shortages.


36 posted on 04/10/2006 9:19:22 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: cryptical
How are the other branches doing with officer retention? If the Marines, Navy and Air Force aren't having the same problems then it could be a cultural problem with the branch, not an incentive issue.

Part of the problem is branch cultural: the Army has always been the low dog on the totem pole. The Air Force has the incentive of letting the people they really care about fly jets, the Marines have their elite esprit d'corps, and the Navy has always been the most socially elite branch (due to the connection with the upper class on the East Coast dating from the days of sail - sailing remains a connection). The Army has always been the guys who came in huge numbers of average quality who get the job done. Not much glamour. Not as many neat toys to play with. And, since the cavalry was dismounted, no logical connection with the upper class (the country's best polo players used to play for various Army teams, or played against them and met as social equals.)

37 posted on 04/10/2006 9:22:21 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci; Red6
Thanks, guys. This is a non-story. Retention for company-grade officers is returning to historic levels after the post-9/11 burst. So?

The end of the four/five year obligation is when an officer decides whether the Army is a temporary gig, in part to pay back a service obligation and education, or whether its a 20-30 year career. Historically, many choose the citizen-soldier path and not the career path. I did, because my wife made it clear she had no interest in a career as an an Army wife, moving every 2-3 years from post to post. As much as I love the Army and loved my time in service, I made the right choice. Still married and we have four great kids.

BTW, this NYT story is an MSM smoke-screen campaign, because they want to bury the real story, which is the Army is about to report fantastic, over-budget, re-enlistment numbers, which show Iraq is having no significant impact on recruiting. They put this story on page one so their readers won't get any news that deviates from their war is lost theme.

38 posted on 04/10/2006 9:23:32 AM PDT by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: 68skylark

I'm thinking the roaring economy has just a little something to do with it.


39 posted on 04/10/2006 9:27:47 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Red6
That's affirmative Red6. I was one of, 'Clinton's quitting captains.' Didn't make much of the press then, outside of a few blurbs in Army Times...
40 posted on 04/10/2006 9:28:02 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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