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If Minutemen Are Vigilantes, What Do You Call 500,000 Illegal Aliens Demanding Rights?
NewsByUs.com ^ | Apr 10, 2006 | Citizen Conservative

Posted on 04/10/2006 5:52:04 AM PDT by IrishMike

When the Minutemen set up shop at the Arizona border last year to call attention to the illegal alien loophole in US Homeland Security, President Bush foolishly chided these brave patriots by calling them vigilantes. Although chagrined at being deserted by the man who has the constitutional responsibility and authority to defend our borders, the Minutemen dug in their heels and persisted. And persisted.

Their Yankee determination to do the right thing was rewarded when President Bush finally sent additional border patrol agents to Arizona. Even the Mexican government was motivated to pay greater attention, at least temporarily, because of the due diligence of heroic Minutemen.

Before the Minuteman took their courageous stand, open border advocates and anti-American liberals insisted it was “impossible” to stop illegal immigration. Best to just accept reality, learn Spanish, and switch to rice and beans as food stables, according to the leftists and Hispanic racists.

Thank God, the Minutemen PROVED illegal aliens CAN be stopped, thereby delivering a great victory on behalf of all American citizens.

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KEYWORDS: 1912election; agenda; alien; aliens; bush; crimigrants; grifters; illegal; illegalaliens; illegalien; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; immigrationreform; mexico; minutemen; squatterinvaders; yikeswebettershutup
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To: Mo1
I give up ... you all continue to ignore the facts

Maybe you could help me a bit further here - first, you claim that Bush's comments were taken out of context, and then you claim that, because of the Stormfronters trying to infiltrate the Minutemen, that Bush's context was correct.

If you could pick one spin and stick with it, we might be able to have a more productive debate here.

201 posted on 04/10/2006 7:52:31 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: Spiff
What political agenda of yours does this idiocy serve?

On some around here you are talking to a stone. Example after example has been laid out in front of them to read (in English I might add) where Bush called them vigilantes, yet they still deny he said it. Amazing.

202 posted on 04/10/2006 7:53:30 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Velveeta

This entire thread was pulled because of people advocating violence against border crossers: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1611636/posts?page=32


203 posted on 04/10/2006 7:54:25 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Mo1
You all may get others to stop commenting to these threads .. but you aren't winning anyone over

Oh, that's a hoot. There are what, all of five freepers attempting this spin? I don't need to win you over. You'v shown what your opinions are worth - diddly squat. I'm just showing how depraved your opinions are - and that you have contradicted yourself in the same thread - first claiming Bush's comments were taken out of context, and then claiming the context was accurate.

And here's a hint - if your positions are based on truth, no one can stop you from commenting.

204 posted on 04/10/2006 7:54:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: dirtboy
because of the Stormfronters trying to infiltrate the Minutemen, that Bush's context was correct.

I have seen many comments and attacks on the President

And have not seen any against StormFront

I've had enough of these threads .. and will go back to igorning them

205 posted on 04/10/2006 7:54:44 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: clawrence3
Do you read the Presidential Daily Briefing?

Are you a Professional Straw-Grasper, or is it just a hobby?

206 posted on 04/10/2006 7:54:59 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Borax Queen
When the Minutemen set up shop at the Arizona border last year to call attention to the illegal alien loophole in US Homeland Security, President Bush foolishly chided these brave patriots by calling them vigilantes.

Ping

207 posted on 04/10/2006 7:55:34 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3
This entire thread was pulled because of people advocating violence against border crossers

And guess what? It was pulled.

And the Minutement prohibit anyone from advocating violence, much less engaging in such. Now, compare that to the leve of violent crime committed by illegals in this country every day, and tell me if the larger problem is illegals, or a few over-the-top posters on FR, whose comments get yanked anyway.

208 posted on 04/10/2006 7:56:11 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: DuncanWaring

It's a hobby, but the facts remains if neither of us read the PDB, there's no way to say there is
no rational evidence to suggest he knew about any group other than the Minutemen."


209 posted on 04/10/2006 7:57:25 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: pbrown; Spiff; Borax Queen
Example after example has been laid out in front of them to read (in English I might add) where Bush called them vigilantes, yet they still deny he said it. Amazing.

Isn't it?!!!

210 posted on 04/10/2006 7:58:31 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: dirtboy; Velveeta

I'm just answering Velveeta's question - don't get all huffy about it.


211 posted on 04/10/2006 7:58:44 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: dirtboy
I do find it interesting that they are going to such painful lengths to try and spin this away.

They keep forgetting on itsy bitsy thing...there's a paper trail where he said it, a 82,600 paper trail. :-)

212 posted on 04/10/2006 7:59:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Mo1
I have seen many comments and attacks on the President And have not seen any against StormFront

IT'S THE MOTHER OF ALL RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION POSTS!

I can't believe we just saw this. Because we're not decrying Stormfront, you're gonna walk away.

News flash - any time I see anything REMOTELY resembling a Stormfont post, I hurl the worst insults at it I can craft after I've mashed ABUSE. There is a reason we don't need to discuss Stormfront here, because we evict them as soon as they show up.

I've had enough of these threads .. and will go back to igorning them

Yep, you couldn't deal with the contradictions in your own posts - time to bang indignantly on the table and then leave in a phoney fit of righteous rage.

213 posted on 04/10/2006 7:59:07 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
I came across this tidbit, can anyone confirm this:

I'm not sure what it is you want confirmed. The Council on Foreign Relations exists as does the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. You can get more information from Google as well as info about CFR's document "Building a North American Community."

214 posted on 04/10/2006 7:59:18 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: dirtboy
I am walking away fromt this thread because like many other threads .. some are more interesting in picking a fight and distorting what people say

Guess you haven't noticed the number of freepers who are avoiding these types of threads

215 posted on 04/10/2006 8:02:38 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: nicmarlo
Hi nic. It's mind boggling the effort they put into spinning Bush's calling the Minutemen, vigilantes. Truly mind boggling
216 posted on 04/10/2006 8:05:22 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Supernatural

Quote: "They were "migrants" when all they did was to pick fruit and vegetables.

Now they are doing construction work and many other jobs that don't require them to "migrate" all over the country.

Many fruit and vegetable picking jobs are now done by machine. We don't need nearly as many "migrants" to pick crops anymore.

So why are so many more of them here now?

What part of that don't you understand?" Unquote

Now that you put it that way, I *do* understand. I never said I liked the situation. It is shameful what has been done to this Country. It has been sliced and diced. Hardly anyone is an American any longer, unless there is a hyphen attached with another nationality after it.

I guess I just wanted to vent. I will go back into the lurking mode now.

Thank You,
TL


217 posted on 04/10/2006 8:06:08 AM PDT by Tomato lover
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To: Mo1
I am walking away fromt this thread because like many other threads .. some are more interesting in picking a fight and distorting what people say

This from someone who contradicted their own spin in this thread. That's a nasty case of projection you have there. And another lovely flourish of righteous indignation, although not nearly as absurd as your last one.

Guess you haven't noticed the number of freepers who are avoiding these types of threads

And silly me, I thought it was because it is getting harder and harder to reasonably defend Bush on the subject of illegal immigration. I know I wouldn't want that job now.

218 posted on 04/10/2006 8:06:55 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: Mo1

There's two reasons why many don't post on these threads....but neither is for the reason which you insinuate. 1) If one's been banned, they can't post; 2) the bannings have deterred others from wanting to engage in speaking the truth.


219 posted on 04/10/2006 8:08:15 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3

OK, now I see what you mean.

I agree, for FReepers to state that we should shoot first and ask questions later, is wrong...very wrong.


220 posted on 04/10/2006 8:09:36 AM PDT by Velveeta
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