Oh, that's a hoot. There are what, all of five freepers attempting this spin? I don't need to win you over. You'v shown what your opinions are worth - diddly squat. I'm just showing how depraved your opinions are - and that you have contradicted yourself in the same thread - first claiming Bush's comments were taken out of context, and then claiming the context was accurate.
And here's a hint - if your positions are based on truth, no one can stop you from commenting.
Yes, there are about 6 or 7 posters that take almost a seminar approach to taking the illegal immigration threads off on silly tangents.
One bizarre strategy I've seen is where a pro-illegal poster will say something totally devoid of truth and then when called on it, he claims he agrees and that you were the one that said it in the first place.
Another tactic is to say that your against illegal immigration but then shoot down every specific idea to reign it in. It's a page out of IBM's old FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) sales strategies.
Another strategy is to pick on very specific point (for example did Bush call Minutemen vigilantes, was the Berlin wall effective, etc) and be super stubborn on arguing very obvious points. It takes the thread off topic and usually into a shouting match.
The other category is when the Bushbots come in and try to say that the republicans aren't to blame and we're all just being manipulated by the mainstream media.