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Time Poll: Build Border Fence, Deport Illegals
NewsMax.com ^ | April 9, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/09/2006 8:40:20 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

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To: JeffAtlanta
Mexico has a two tier caste system. The few who have, who own all and control all, including the oil pesos, and the remainder. Those on the bottom have nothing. It is easier for them (currently) to attempt a border crossing, than to lay down their life (a certainty) in an attempt to change the mexican current system. Perhaps if the price of coming north is more costly, and less fruitful, they may well take up arms, and stage a ling overdue revolution...a real one.

In the long run, that is exactly what it is going to take, for those south of the border to have a real life, where they live.

81 posted on 04/09/2006 10:25:59 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Why do you say this? The border patrol could just round them up, give them water and soup and put them back on the other side of the wall.

er, catch and release. That is what we do currently. It does not appear to be satisfactory.

82 posted on 04/09/2006 10:27:58 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

Well, why wouldn't the wall be enforced. patrols would have to be on-going. It would be cheaper than paying for all these illegals.


83 posted on 04/09/2006 10:28:06 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: going hot
er, catch and release. That is what we do currently. It does not appear to be satisfactory.

er, that's because so very few are actually caught. With a wall, the odds of capture would be a virtual certainty.

You might be willing to risk your family's health on a trek that had a 99% success rate but would you risk it had only .1% success rate?

Once word got out that the odds were almost impossible then the hordes would make other plans.

84 posted on 04/09/2006 10:30:35 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: timestax

Looks like south Omaha, about half way between downtown and Offutt Air Force Base.


85 posted on 04/09/2006 10:32:16 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Going to make the midterm elections interesting for those sitting on the fence hoping not to take a stance for America.
86 posted on 04/09/2006 10:34:06 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: going hot
None of them will get into boats and go across the north Gulf coast?

Coasties are pretty effective in the Gulf.

87 posted on 04/09/2006 10:34:48 PM PDT by wardaddy ("I believe it is peace for our time... go home and get a nice quiet sleep")
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To: rimtop56

"The jobs left open can be filled by legal immigrants or by Americans."


There's actually only one job that it appears we can't get US citizens to do...that's ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAW!


88 posted on 04/09/2006 10:35:31 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: wardaddy


They will not be welcomed on our Coast.


89 posted on 04/09/2006 10:37:20 PM PDT by onyx (It's easier to indict a ham sandwich or Tom DeLay than it is to indict a Democrat.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Well, I certainy hope you are right.

Meanwhile let's keep the pressure up on those who represent us in these debates.

Gotta sign off for tonight, busy day tomorrow.

90 posted on 04/09/2006 10:38:21 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot
"Yeah, the mongols were kept out of China ( !)."

I know. They were after the Ming Dynasty built the wall. The wall was not the only reason for this bu certainly helped. If you are aware of any Mongol invasions that penetrated the Ming wall feel free to elaborate.

91 posted on 04/09/2006 10:38:38 PM PDT by Naptowne
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To: going hot
India has over 3,500 miles of barriers that are very effective. Heck, Morocco has a 1600 mile barrier.
92 posted on 04/09/2006 10:44:57 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: going hot

perhaps...but why wouldn't you and all your millions of equally poor and discontent neighbors just overthrow your government?revolt! march on your cities in mexico and yell and scream about "your rights"? Go on strike, demand more money from YOUR OWN government!!

That is the part that really gets me. The illegals won't muster up the balls to protest to their own government about their treatment but they have the nerve to come here and march and demand!


93 posted on 04/09/2006 10:46:22 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Naptowne

my history is a bit rusty, but I was under the impression that the wall was originally started 2000 years before the ming dynasty added to and lenghtened the wall, some three dynasties prior. The actualities escape me but no doubt they can be found somewhere on the web.


94 posted on 04/09/2006 10:47:26 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: EternalVigilance
Earlier this year, Rasmussen Reports state-by-state surveys found that people in the Southwest tended to view the issue as important as the War in Iraq. However, those in New England considered immigration a far less important issue.

I wonder how important citizens think tax reform is, including making tax cuts permanent, eliminating the AMT, and simplifying the tax code, especially now that it's tax return season for most people throughout the country.

95 posted on 04/09/2006 10:48:54 PM PDT by heleny
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To: going hot
The actualities escape me but no doubt they can be found somewhere on the web.

The original wall was effective while it was patrolled. Once the territory grew beyond the borders of the wall then it became less important.

96 posted on 04/09/2006 10:51:28 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I'm willing to bet that the poll was, as usual, conducted among those populations with a leftward tilt, and they STILL got these numbers.


97 posted on 04/09/2006 10:58:23 PM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: going hot

I think it was started even more than 2000 years before the Ming, but I think the huge Great Wall of China that you can see from outer space was the one built by the Ming to keep the Mongols out of China.


98 posted on 04/09/2006 10:58:27 PM PDT by Naptowne
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To: All

Two brief points:

1 - Just visited La Boca, and for those that don't know what that is, you DON'T want to live like that, but you may if we let this PC trend go on (just look at the pic at the top of this thread, and that looks nice).

2 - If we mirror Mejico's immigration laws, we would be fine, and well, who can argue with that, after all, they are telling us what to do... so follow their lead!!!

BTW: ANY country's immigration law would work for us, even ours if someone had the pelotas to enforce it.


99 posted on 04/09/2006 10:59:44 PM PDT by elpinta (Never thought I would live in a Socialist country... but is getting close...)
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To: going hot

http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/Forgotten/greatwall.html



I pulled this. Can't comment on the accuracy, but it supports my argument so I will go with it.


100 posted on 04/09/2006 11:04:15 PM PDT by Naptowne
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