Posted on 04/09/2006 1:16:00 PM PDT by jmc1969
Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell on Saturday said the United States has made "serious mistakes" during the Iraq war that have led to the rising violence the country now faces.
"We made some serious mistakes in the immediate aftermath of the fall of Baghdad," Powell told a crowd of thousands at the McCormick Place conference. "We didn't have enough troops on the ground. We didn't impose our will. And as a result, an insurgency got started, and . . . it got out of control."
Now, American troops must "stick with the people of Iraq" until order is restored, he said.
Powell, a retired four-star general, served as secretary of state under Bush from 2001 until 2005.
His remarks came a day after suicide bombers hit a Shiite mosque in Baghdad, killing more than 80.
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Warefare was a lot different during WWII than it is now. In WWII we were also fighting an enemy in the Nazis who had superior weapons and equipment for the most part. The fact is we don't know that our mistakes are nothing compared to prior wars because we havn't won yet. If someone thinks our tactics need to be changed then they have an obligation to voice their opinion whether they are right or wrong. Powell's comments didn't even come close to crossing the line. I get offended when Durbin and Kennedy compared our troops to Sadaam. I don't get offended when former generals critique tactics in a moment of reflection.
I must disagree with aspects of your assessment. The Shiite and Sunni are engaged in conflict. Ignoring it won't change it. You are correct that second-guessing the tactics we used 3 years ago does nothing to solve the current problems, but I think we may want to reconsider our goals in Iraq; i.e. do we really want Iraq to remain one country. Remeber Iraq is the product of Britsh colonialism and really is a middleeastern Yugoslavia. I disagree with the people who seem determined to keep the country in one piece because I feel that is a recipe for prolonging the current problems. that is not second guessing. That is what I think we should consider doing now.
We can agree to disagree on these issues, but I know we both want what is best for the US and the people of Iraq in the long term. That is about all I have to say on the issue.
I do not say Rummy was wrong or Franks or anyone else, it was just a difference of opinion. I do think its wrong not to impose our will and the media be damned. Bush 41 didn't want to finish the job for political purposes and Bush seems to have decided to be way to political in some areas as far as Iraq is concerned.
I believe Powell's way would have been something like a WWII Japanese style conquering (- the nuke). You completely break it down and then build it up in our image.
Jay Garner, the US general abruptly dismissed as Iraq's first occupation administrator after a month in the job, says he fell out with the Bush circle because he wanted free elections and rejected an imposed programme of privatisation.
In an interview to be broadcast on BBC Newsnight tonight, he says: "My preference was to put the Iraqis in charge as soon as we can, and do it with some form of elections ... I just thought it was necessary to rapidly get the Iraqis in charge of their destiny."
Asked by the reporter Greg Palast if he foresaw negative repercussions from the subsequent US imposition of mass privatisation , Gen Garner said: "I don't know ... we'll just have to wait and see." It would have been better for the Iraqis to take decisions themselves, even if they made mistakes, he said.
"What I was trying to do was get to a functioning government ... We as Americans like to put our template on things. And our template's good, but it's not necessarily good for everyone else."
Powell is just a liberal bozo.
I'll buy that.
Sounds almost like he's condemning his own philosophy as Sec. of State
No deal. It's easy for people to admit mistakes that other people have made. It's like Clinton apologizing for slavery.
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