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Steyn is smoking again.
1 posted on 04/09/2006 2:54:14 AM PDT by Tom D.
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Mark Steyn IS right our immigration system is not only broken; it works at cross purposes - it winks and nods at illegal aliens but manages to very efficiently hold up processing work on legal immigrant application requests! Given this system, its no wonder the fastest route to becoming an American citizen is to just come here illegally. You'll be upgraded faster than President Bush can say "Hola Fox!" After having seen the U.S Senate's priorities, no one takes the blather seriously about the U.S government getting ready to secure the country's borders. The Senate, along with the White House, has a different agenda in mind. And oh as Al Qaeda sleeper terrorists Hani Hanjour and Khalid Almidhar discovered five years ago, America's the perfect place to commit a crime for if you're an immigrant no one dares to ask questions. And since then no one dares to ask if any illegal immigrant might be a criminal or a terrorist. That's how disingeneous the American debate about immigration has become and why the immigration system's gaping holes have still not been fixed.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

2 posted on 04/09/2006 3:19:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Deena Gilbey is a British subject whose late husband worked on the 84th floor: On the morning of Sept. 11, instead of fleeing, he returned to the building to help evacuate his co-workers. A few days later, Mrs. Gilbey receives a letter from the INS noting that as she's now widowed her immigration status has changed and she's obliged to leave the country along with her two children (both U.S. citizens)

. . . Why should illegal Mexicans be the unique beneficiaries of a sentimental blather about "family values" to which U.S. immigration is otherwise notoriously antipathetic?

Whatever happend to Mrs. Gilbey?

5 posted on 04/09/2006 3:34:07 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Tom D.

Mark Steyn is a gift from God.


6 posted on 04/09/2006 3:37:40 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Senator Allen on Democrats: "...let's enjoy knocking their soft teeth down their whiny throats.")
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I have been psuedo-blogging, for years, a couple of the elements in WWIV ( III being the Cold War ), in which we find ourselves engaged.

The first element?

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

The other, somewhat interlocking element is this one:

-Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)--


Not yet, but within an hour, I will update these collections of links with further links connecting these two seemingly disparate groups. Stay tuned.

9 posted on 04/09/2006 4:33:22 AM PDT by backhoe
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10 posted on 04/09/2006 4:37:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Tom D.
If I get any more upset with this illegal immigration issue I'm going to have a stroke.

And I think that's the point.

Our "leaders" are going to milk so much outrage from us that we'll compromise and take anything they offer just to make it go away.

11 posted on 04/09/2006 4:40:14 AM PDT by manwiththehands (I'm not staying home in November, but I'm only casting one vote: Blackwell for Ohio)
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Very good article. He is right on target in saying that it is our complicated policies combined with the world's worst bureaucracy (the former INS) that have done a lot to get us into our current situation.

Much of our immigration law (quotas, etc.) has been manipulated under various administrations to bring in larger numbers of groups for some reason favored by the respective administration. Frequently, these groups seem to be from "developing" countries. That is one reason that it has always been extremely difficult for Europeans to get legal permission to live here. In addition, Europeans normally followed the procedures, reported to the INS on schedule, had legitimate addresses, etc., thus making them much easier to remove.

I had a British friend who was a teacher and ran a small day-care operation and applied diligently every few months for extensions, legal residency, etc. They wouldn't accept her because she spoke English and was a teacher (thus "competing" for American jobs). Finally she simply quit corresponding with the INS, moved, and sank into the vast illegal world and did very well for herself for years, eventually marrying an American and being able to straighten things out.

Our immigration law is so irrational and so politically motivated (no Europeans, lots of people from countries and cultures that hate us, "family reunification" for Third Worlders who go immediately to welfare or SSSI, etc.) that, as he points out, the vast numbers of illegals are a logical consequence of it.


12 posted on 04/09/2006 4:51:18 AM PDT by livius
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BTTT


13 posted on 04/09/2006 4:58:58 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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"...in search of fake ID from the illegal-alien assistance network that hangs around there. Luis Martinez-Flores, who'd been living here illegally since 1994,..."

Which is a direct connection between the porous southern border and the 9-11 attack...not that it matters.


14 posted on 04/09/2006 5:35:17 AM PDT by TalBlack
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Steyn's wrong about one thing. The next forty million illegals will be here long before 2025.


16 posted on 04/09/2006 5:39:17 AM PDT by hershey
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Easy Ans. #1. What does a STOP sign mean? #2. Enforce the law! Those foks who can't bring themselves to serve fully according to their SWORN OATH, should get out of the way. Period! We can get people who will do the job.


21 posted on 04/09/2006 6:00:51 AM PDT by Waco
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This article puts the debate in the correct arena.

It is U.S. Immigration Department which needs to be overhauled. Not our laws. The immigration laws we have are not the problem. The problem is that the laws are not being upheld.

That is the fault of our Immigration Department.

No matter how lofty ideals NEW laws might represent, the laws will not be enforced.

Let's get the discussion focused on exactly WHERE our problem lies. It is with our Immigration department their refusal to do their jobs.

Is not immigration under the Executive Branch? I don't know much about it -- but in the next 10 days I am going to know more.

If all 298 million of us starting pointing out the problem, maybe something will be done.


22 posted on 04/09/2006 6:11:57 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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...and I guarantee it isn't the first thing that comes to mind!


24 posted on 04/09/2006 6:56:23 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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"The president himself has contributed a whole barrelful of weaselly platitudes, beginning with his line that 'family values don't stop at the Rio Grande'."

As one of President Bush's supporters (note tagline), I am disgusted by his weaselly platitudes concerning this issue.

The American people expect such as this from Democrat politicians and their supporters from the Left, who cannot be truthful about their policies and designs and must resort to weaselly platitudes, disinformation, propaganda, and mendacity in order to get elected and to advance their agenda.

However, the American people do not expect such as this from a leader whom they have reason to respect and admire.

25 posted on 04/09/2006 6:56:58 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush and his surveillance program.)
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Here's another place where family values stops: The rubble of the World Trade Center. Deena Gilbey is a British subject whose late husband worked on the 84th floor: On the morning of Sept. 11, instead of fleeing, he returned to the building to help evacuate his co-workers. A few days later, Mrs. Gilbey receives a letter from the INS noting that as she's now widowed her immigration status has changed and she's obliged to leave the country along with her two children (both U.S. citizens). Think about that: Having legally admitted to the country the terrorists who killed her husband, the U.S. government's first act on having facilitated his murder is to add insult to grievous injury by serving his widow with a deportation order. Why should illegal Mexicans be the unique beneficiaries of a sentimental blather about "family values" to which U.S. immigration is otherwise notoriously antipathetic?




Apparantly, for those whining about "what to do about illegals and their anchor babies," the government already has a solution. Or is there some reason we couldn't do that to illegal invaders while we should do it to LEGAL IMMIGRANTS?


Go ahead FROBL's, tell us why this is a good thing.


28 posted on 04/09/2006 7:33:09 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (C)
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From the article:"U.S. illegal-immigration law is not enforced by the U.S. government, it's hard to know why private employers should do it. "

This statement tells us exactly why any form of amnesty will not work without establishing strict enforcement first.

:)EZ Does It:)

31 posted on 04/09/2006 7:41:40 AM PDT by eazdzit (Vote AGAINST All CFR, NWO PuboCrats !! CROSS OVER IN THE PRIMARIES!!!)
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I am very seriously considering becoming a one issue voter.

If we don't speak with our votes we will be overrun by the vocal minority.


32 posted on 04/09/2006 8:01:35 AM PDT by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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My best friend is Ukrainian and working on getting his citizenship and the illegal immigration situation just fires me up after watching all he's had to do to do it "right". Plus it is very difficult for his family to get visas to get to come and visit him-- it's enough to drive me nuts.


35 posted on 04/09/2006 8:49:28 AM PDT by lawgirl (She comes on like thunder and she's more right than rain)
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OMG! This needs to be shouted from the rooftops and emailed to every yahoo on capitol hill


36 posted on 04/09/2006 9:17:26 AM PDT by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Statement: "Mark Steyn - No easy answers on immigration conundrum"

Response: Then try a hard answer.

38 posted on 04/09/2006 9:24:01 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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