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A Right to Migrate?
TCS Daily ^ | 04.06.06 | Nathan Smith

Posted on 04/08/2006 7:53:38 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Little Bill

Hardly ~ Jefferson had the ideas long before the French had them.


141 posted on 04/09/2006 3:17:16 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: DCPatriot
After reading your screed, IMO...your moniker is so appropo.

I see you resort to ad hominem. IOW, you are a freaking idiot.

142 posted on 04/09/2006 8:23:53 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: CowboyJay
I had you pegged after your first comment.

You're very sure of yourself. And very stupid for the same reason.

You think you might feel like pistol-whipping someone there, Hippie?

Come and get it, punk.

You've pretty much made it clear that you ought to be deported yourself. I have little respect for thugs like you.
143 posted on 04/09/2006 8:28:01 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: muir_redwoods

Show me a large scale armed invasion.


144 posted on 04/09/2006 8:31:13 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2
"Come and get it, punk."

IOW you wouldn't hesitate to take the same action as that rancher did to protect his property, yet you have the nerve to criticize him for defending himself. Hypocrite.

You're very sure of yourself.

Success breeds confidence.

As for the 'punk', comment... I think you've pretty much shown who the 'thug' is (you and your 20 million criminal friends).

I have NO respect for anti-Americans who refuse to stand up for their country and fellow citizens under attack, and then poo-poo the efforts of those who do take action.

145 posted on 04/09/2006 10:48:56 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: CowboyJay
I have NO respect for anti-Americans who refuse to stand up for their country and fellow citizens under attack, and then poo-poo the efforts of those who do take action.

Somehow, I think the only citizen that you've ever defended was your sorry rear during a bar fight.
146 posted on 04/09/2006 11:38:49 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2
"Somehow, I think the only citizen that you've ever defended was your sorry rear during a bar fight."

Funny thing is... you're wrong. Half the friends I had in school hung out with me for the sheer fact that it was the only way they could keep their rears from getting kicked up between their ears on the way home from school for being 'different', or not being big enough to defend themselves from bullies.

I have on more than one occaision saved someone from a 'group-lynching' in both adolescent and adult life un-aided and at personal risk. Yourself?

147 posted on 04/10/2006 12:38:32 AM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: dr_who_2
"Show me a large scale armed invasion."

How large scale was the armed invasion of 9/11? 19 men with airplanes killed over 3000 Americans. What do you call the hispanic street-gangs in the Southwest but armed 5th-columnists whose first loyalty is certainly not to the US. How large scale do you need? Do you think we only respond to invasions if they are large enough?

Invaders have arrived in our country with their first act as one of disdain for our laws. Open your eyes for soon the evidence of a large-scale armed invasion will be evident to even you. I say citizens have the right and responsibility to shoot invaders. It is one of the purposes of the 2nd amendment.

148 posted on 04/10/2006 2:43:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: SauronOfMordor
The only way to stop/reverse the trend is to:

  1. End the welfare state. Entirely
  2. End anti-discrimination laws. Entirely

Better yet, close down all hospitals. Close down public schools, stop building/repairing public roads. Disband police and military. Eliminate manufacturing (it is in the process). Abolish all environmental regulations etc, etc ....

In a few words - make USA so unattractive place so nobody will come.

149 posted on 04/10/2006 3:04:37 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Little Bill
If you were English, Scots, German, Scots Irish, or were from one of the Protestant States in Europe.

I know this is not possible but limiting immigration to Protestants would make USA more stable and prosperous place - USA culture is derived from Protestantism. (I am not Protestant).

150 posted on 04/10/2006 3:07:45 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: gregwest
Annex Mexico and break it into a set of new American states.

No need for breakup - Mexico is already a federal state.

151 posted on 04/10/2006 3:13:23 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole
Socialism cannot support itself. It collapsed in Russia, Poland, and the rest of Eastern Europe. It is killing Western Europe at a slower rate, but it is still killing Western Europe

The reason Socialism always fails is that it attracts an unending supply of parasites, who suck the life out of the productive class until the producers can no longer sustain the society.

Your snide "close down all hospitals"? It's happening here. Emergency rooms are closing because they cannot cover their costs. What are replacing them are hospitals without emergency rooms where doctors can send patients for surgery without having to subsidize non-paying parasites

Your snide "Close down public schools"? The public schools are collapsing. Parents are sending their kids to private schools, or home-schooling. I'm homeschooling my three kids because I'm unhappy with the public schools quality

152 posted on 04/10/2006 4:39:18 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Socialism cannot support itself.

Do you really believe that a pure free market society can exist? Do you think that we are at the dawn of this wonderful event?

153 posted on 04/10/2006 6:45:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: CowboyJay

No, can't say I have. Nor have I ever had to go out of my way to avoid "group lynchings", as you say. But it's good to know you went to a school that builds so much character.


154 posted on 04/10/2006 6:48:10 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: DCPatriot

"Would you rather they be allowed to get sick and die in the gutter?"

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


155 posted on 04/10/2006 7:00:13 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
"Would you rather they be allowed to get sick and die in the gutter?"

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see that you're in California.

You must have personal bad experiences with illegal aliens for you to say that.

There is no way you mean what you just said. You did it for shock effect.

If I were religious, I'd say a prayer for you.

Cheers.

156 posted on 04/10/2006 7:35:40 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: muir_redwoods
Yes the real lesson of 9/11 is that we ought to stay awake all night in fear of every immigrant who arms himself with a box cutter.

Open your eyes for soon the evidence of a large-scale armed invasion will be evident to even you.


Too late! They're everywhere!

I say citizens have the right and responsibility to shoot invaders.

I take it that if it wasn't for the oppressive hand of the 60's liberals, you would be doing your duty right now and staging your very own little "Alamo". After all, that's the purpose of the second amendment, right?

Thankfully, no, it isn't.
157 posted on 04/10/2006 7:54:21 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: A. Pole
Do you really believe that a pure free market society can exist? Do you think that we are at the dawn of this wonderful event?

I'm saying that, on the scale going from "socialism" on one end, to "pure free market" on the other, we're too far on the socialism side

Many of the socialistic measures we currently have did not exist in the past, or at least not to the extent we currently have them, and the United States survived without them

For example, in my town, we do not have a government-financed fire dept or ambulance service. This does not mean we don't have firemen or paramedics. We do. They are volunteers, and the services material needs are supported by free donations and fees.

158 posted on 04/10/2006 8:14:32 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: dr_who_2
We are being invaded. Laugh if you want to. A lot of Romans did too. You will, perhaps, one day finally understand (and maybe I am being too charitable about your ability to understand)that your country is being taken from you. This is not about lawncare and pool boys and house-keepers, this is about your nation. A country that won't defend it's borders is not a country anymore.

If the rhetoric they mouthed these last few days in the streets as they demand their rights in the the country they invaded is not too extreme for you, what would be? Is the demand for the "return" of Aztlan negotiable, as far as you're concerned? Do you want your children to have to learn Spanish to get a HS Diploma?

If these are reasonable to you, fine. If they are unacceptable, and the law won't act to protect our borders what will you do? Ask them nicely to leave?

They are in our country illegally and won't leave. Try that yourself in any other nation on earth.

159 posted on 04/11/2006 2:41:04 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: SauronOfMordor
I'm saying that, on the scale going from "socialism" on one end, to "pure free market" on the other, we're too far on the socialism side

OK, if you think that the modern social system is a mixture of "free market" with "socialism" and the question is what is the right combination, then I agree with you.

160 posted on 04/11/2006 4:13:02 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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