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Giuliani Describes 9/11 Horrors
BBC News ^ | 4/6/06

Posted on 04/06/2006 10:34:20 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: Chasaway
You know, every single time I read or hear about those two people my chest starts to tighten up and my eyes start to tear.

Them, and that lady who is seen holding her baby in the upper tower. Sometimes I will think of that baby and wonder who he or she was and about his or her mom.

81 posted on 04/06/2006 4:53:50 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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To: Die_Hard Conservative Lady
I get soooooooooooooo tired of hearing this excuse for so many people who are on trial..... This is no excuse for what they all did! Like yates, killing her children etc....

If it makes you feel better, the guy who killed my dad admitted to having a great childhood and said his parents were always wonderful to him.

82 posted on 04/06/2006 4:55:24 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Giuliani's would make a great President.

Will beat anyone the Dems put forward.

If anyone can fight the war on terror, Rudy can.

I'm a Reagan/Goldwater/Buckley Republican, but there aren't any Reagan's waiting in the wings. And until there is, I can put up with another Nixon for 8 years. Great on foreign policy, and the war on terror is 80% of what we need right now.

He'll be ok on taxes, and probably better than W on reining in spending.

Rudy bowled me over on 9/11. 100% genuine, amazingly articulate, intelligent, likeable.

He's my man in 2008.


83 posted on 04/06/2006 7:45:39 PM PDT by motife
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To: motife

Rudy bowled me over as well.

The country is in more dire peril than ever. If small thinkers enable the dims to take over the country we are really in trouble.


84 posted on 04/06/2006 8:32:52 PM PDT by tkathy
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To: Wolfstar

Thank you.


85 posted on 04/06/2006 8:34:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Thank you.

You're welcome.

86 posted on 04/06/2006 8:39:10 PM PDT by Wolfstar (You can't tell me it all ends in a slow ride in a hearse...No, this can't be all there is...)
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To: areafiftyone

He should be doused in gasoline, set afire, and have the option to jump out off a thousand foot tower to end it or to burn to death.


87 posted on 04/06/2006 8:47:05 PM PDT by ConTex
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To: Clemenza
Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.

It is funny how things tend to come back and bite you in the butt sometimes.
88 posted on 04/07/2006 6:19:47 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: miss marmelstein
Guiliani's stoic leadership on 9/11 was remarkable.

Leadership?

After the first WTC tower was hit, all those trapped in the second one could have been evacuated. Where was the leadership?

The primary first responder protocol in such an emergency is to “isolate and deny entry.” This was also not observed and led to more loss of life. (I have professionally supervised emergency response, hazardous waste operations, evacuations and confined space rescue.)

It ain't about rocket science and glory hunting.

The response to the New York portion of that attack was disorganized and frantic.

A lot of people seem to conveniently forget the 9-11 attack was not just in New York... we also lost some of our best in Washington D.C. at the Pentagon! AND, what about the other aircraft that went down? Where was that headed?

All of this melodramatic media fodder makes me ill...

Giuliani testifying about the New York aftermath of that 9-11 attack has nothing to do with the case against Moussoui (however the hell you spell it) being involved with those terrorists in planning and executing those attacks!

We all know what happened afterward... I challenge any legal “expert” to explain how this was even relevant to that terrorist scum's complicity in the trial.

Immigration? Open borders? Terrorism? LEADERSHIP?

How did these creeps get into the USA to begin with???

Excuse me for being so pi$$ed off !!!

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How can anyone forget the Mayor throwing Arafat out of the Metropolitan Opera based on nothing more than he didn't like the creep and didn't want him sullying his beloved opera house.

How can anyone forget letting him stay at-large in the city outside???

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He's a cultured individual.

Just what we need, a high society limousine liberal.

89 posted on 04/07/2006 7:08:21 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Since you call yourself "Sir," maybe you have some high society, limousine issues yourself.

For those who were there, Guiliani supplied superb leadership on 9/11. In case you don't remember, he and his staff were dangerously blockaded in one of the famous (and much derided!) bunkers he had built for just such an occasion. How could he make instant evacuation decisions when at the time he was a near victim? If memory serves, he surfaced around noontime and then took strong charge.
Until he appeared on tv, I was convinced he was dead.

Bravo, Mayor, ya did good!


90 posted on 04/07/2006 7:18:37 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: CBart95; Reddy
Leadership?

After the first WTC tower was hit, all those trapped in the second one could have been evacuated. Where was the leadership?

The primary first responder protocol in such an emergency is to “isolate and deny entry.” This was also not observed and led to more loss of life. (I have professionally supervised emergency response, hazardous waste operations, evacuations and confined space rescue.)

It ain't about rocket science and glory hunting.

The response to the New York portion of that attack was disorganized and frantic.

A lot of people seem to conveniently forget the 9-11 attack was not just in New York... we also lost some of our best in Washington D.C. at the Pentagon! AND, what about the other aircraft that went down? Where was that headed?

All of this melodramatic media fodder makes me ill...

Giuliani testifying about the New York aftermath of that 9-11 attack has nothing to do with the case against Moussoui (however the hell you spell it) being involved with those terrorists in planning and executing those attacks!

We all know what happened afterward... I challenge any legal “expert” to explain how this was even relevant to that terrorist scum's complicity in the trial.

Immigration? Open borders? Terrorism? LEADERSHIP?

How did these creeps get into the USA to begin with???

Excuse me for being so pi$$ed off !!!

91 posted on 04/07/2006 7:22:28 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
How did these creeps get into the USA to begin with???

Airplane. And they managed to get VISAs. Sad.
92 posted on 04/07/2006 7:43:24 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Such cogency is remarkable.

Why wait in the weeds to pounce on us dullards?

Your wonderful mind could be used to guide all of us.

Thank you for revealing yourself.


93 posted on 04/07/2006 8:05:52 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: CBart95
Your wonderful mind could be used to guide all of us.

I would prefer that you think for yourself instead of letting the leftist media melodramas do it for you...

Borders? Immigration? National security? Terrorism?

Nah, couldn't be related one bit... Cooperate with INS? What for?

94 posted on 04/07/2006 6:57:21 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

A simple "thanks" will do when next I choose to praise your perspicacity.

I "got" you point on the first pass.


95 posted on 04/08/2006 6:44:30 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: 2banana; Alberta's Child; WestVirginiaRebel
Giuliani told the jury the image of two people jumping together from the World Trade Center.....Describing the moment he saw people falling, he said: "I froze. I realised that in a couple of seconds, it switched my thinking and emotions. I said 'We're in uncharted territory'."

While you're at it, Rudy, why not tell us about your immigration policies while you were Mayor.

OK, I'll go first.

Mayor Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s pre-911 sanctuary policy to thwart a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS.

"Oh yeah?," said Giuliani, "Just watch me." The INS, Rudy claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to "terrorize people."

Very poor choice of words, Rudy.

Though he lost in court, Rudy remained defiant to the end.

On September 5, 2001, Rudy'a own boys---his handpicked charter-revision committee---ruled that New York City could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential "to preserve trust between immigrants and government."

Six days later, on Sept 11, 2001, several foreigners who had overstayed their visas participated in the most devastating attack on New York City that our country had ever seen.

96 posted on 04/08/2006 7:10:21 AM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Them, and that lady who is seen holding her baby in the upper tower. Sometimes I will think of that baby and wonder who he or she was and about his or her mom.

I don't think there was a baby. I have never seen a baby listed among any of the 9/11 casualties at the WTC, and there is no clear image of a baby in any of those photos.

97 posted on 04/08/2006 7:58:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Liz
Good post.

It's also worth noting that Moussaoui was originally arrested by the FBI on an immigration warrant -- something that Giuliani specifically forbade New York City employees from enforcing in any manner.

If the NYPD had arrested Mohammed Atta on 9/10/01 for jumping a subway turnstile and they had learned that he had open warrants for his arrest for an immigration violation, they would have been explicitly forbidden from detaining him for the Federal authorities -- under a municipal regulation that Giuliani himself proudly supported IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW.

I never thought I'd see the day when so many so-called "conservatives" would go out on a limb to support a liberal presidential candidate who ought to be serving time in a Federal prison right now.

98 posted on 04/08/2006 8:17:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
I never thought I'd see the day when so many so-called "conservatives" would go out on a limb to support a liberal presidential candidate who ought to be serving time in a Federal prison right now.

Oh, please, you know why (smirk).

Rudy has assumed the Hyphenate-Fellat position countless times-----his supporters are accustomed to seeing him leaning over, all puckered up.

A day without a Rudy BJ is like a day without sunshine (snicker).

Course getting Rudy on his knees in the Lincoln Bedroom would be a novelty.

99 posted on 04/08/2006 8:49:27 AM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Alberta's Child

I vividly remember seeing a photo many times on here that showed a number of people in the upper floors. It looked like a woman was holding a baby close to the window for air. I remember some Freepers commenting on how the mother looked like she was trying to get the baby as much air as possible. I may be mistaken. I wonder if anyone knows which picture I am talking about.


100 posted on 04/08/2006 12:42:10 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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