GOP Unveils Revised Immigration Legislation

AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/5/06 | David Espo - ap

[naden25]

I got my husband out of bed to read your post. I love it. I was listening to Tammy Bruce's show and heard a woman say that, for our country, "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp". She was referring to the Oscars and the song that won for Best Song. Her point was that our president and Congress were pimping America with all of the insourcing and outsourcing without regard to the citizens and the principles upon which our country was founded.

[DoughtyOne]

And over here children, we see Senator Frist and the Republicans doing what they do best these days.

[MaineVoter2002]

Re: Senator Frist

Is it just me or does it seem like things were much better under Lott?

[SeaBiscuit]

"Republican officials said the GOP plan would divide illegal immigrants into three categories:"

1. Those to be deported.
2. Those too severely ill not to be deported.
3. See #1

But of course, I am asleep and dreaming.

[DoughtyOne]

You mean, "We don't need no stinkin' impeachement trial!" Lott?

The United States Senate is a vast wasteland.

Dole, Lott, First... it's really sad. Don't forget, we have a clear majority and still can't get reasoned laws passed in that body.

[azhenfud]

Just who will the Senate expect to verify this information? what's to keep those who've lied and stolen their way into the US from lying and forging the "proof" of their having been here? Who will swear the info is true?

IF these illegal aliens "come out of the shadows", proving they've been here and been illegally hired, do those employers become subject to criminal prosecutions as proscribed by current IRS and Immigration code?

Will employers who need "guest workers" be required to swear out an affidavit of support somewhat like sponsors of legal immigrants do? if not, will this end that requirement for other "sponsors" of immigrants?

It's apparent the Senate merely wants to rush into a disgusting, feel good measure just as unfit as doing nothing.

[hispanichoosier]

This cheap labor illegal legalization is political suicide by open borders Republicans. They are killing the GOP with this nonsense.

And yet during these latest "open borders" years the GOP has made gains on the federal and state levels.

[hispanichoosier]

Will the last American please turn out the light as we slide into the third world.

I wonder how many politicians said the same thing circa 1900 when we had huge waves of immigrants from Italy and Poland...

[normy]

I have more sympathy for the Chinese escaping the Communist oppression to get here, same with Cubans, than the Mexicans who just want a paycheck while their gov't demands we take them.

[Bahbah]

Senate Republicans are working on legislation to give illegal immigrants legal status....

This may be what Senator Sessions referred to on several occasions yesterday...several senators huddled together in an office somewhere. He did not think it was going to fly.

[normy]

What does Latino or Hispanic mean? Who does it refer to?

[hispanichoosier]

What does Latino or Hispanic mean? Who does it refer to?

Well, here's a definition of Hispanic from Wikipedia:

Hispanic, as used in the United States, is one of several terms used to categorize persons whose ancestry hails either from Spain, the Spanish-speaking countries of Latin America, or the original settlers of the traditionally Spanish-held Southwestern United States. The term is used as a broad form of classification in the U.S. census, local and federal employment, and numerous business market researches.

[normy]

So it refers more to language than color of skin or country of origin, is that right?

[hispanichoosier]

So it refers more to language than color of skin or country of origin, is that right?

No, I wouldn't say so. I think it refers to ethnic background (which is not the same as skin color) more than anything. I could be wrong, though, since I'm no sociologist.

[dennisw]

You should have started that with- Dear Sir or Madame

[normy]

It's just interesting that a person living in Spain could be very white w/ blond hair but speak Spanish and be Hispanic and a person from Arizona could be red skinned with no European blood but speak Spanish and be considered Hispanic and a black guy with mostly African blood from the Dominican and speaks Spanish is Hispanic.

A white man from England who speaks English is English and a white man from Australia who speaks English is Australian and a white man from the US who speaks English is American. A black man from the US who speaks English is American (or black or African-American). A yellow man from Japan who speaks English is American (or Japanese American) A black man from Nigeria who speaks English is Nigerian.

I guess what I am trying to understand is that many Hispanics who are obviously American seem to sympathize or defend the illegals from Mexico. Is the allegiance to Mexico or to the common language? One of my best friends dad is Mexican (American 100%) and his mom Korean (I think dad met mom from army days). He doesn't speak Spanish except the broken Spanish he learned from the guys on his crew. Would he be considered Hispanic by Hispanic guys?

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

As usual on FR, a report comes out, based on anonymous sources, on some prospective deal and everyone goes into Doomsday mode.

First, the deal that they MIGHT consider is still subject to amendment by the Senate. Alot can be done to address this proposal in the amendment process. Second, anything passed in the Senate has to be reconciled with the House bill in conference. If no bill gets out of the Senate, there will be no conference bill.

Let the details emerge. If folks want to be productive, they can call their Senators, but it would also be productive to call Sensenbrenner's office as will as the House leadership.

Perservere

[Sic Luceat Lux]

— Illegal immigrants in the United States less than two years would be required to leave the country and join any other foreign residents seeking legal entry.

Oh yeah, right. Can't you picture all these illegals-hurrying down the freeway-not even bothering to stop for a taco/corncob-on the way to the border.

Get 'em out/Finish the Wall.

[tabsternager]

If the Senate were serious, they'd go after the employers that hire illegal aliens and shut off government services to illegal aliens. Then there would be no need for a fence because they'd be streaming out of the country.

They're obviously not serious. They think they're so smart and the public is really stupid. I hope we don't prove them right in the next election.