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Romney to Sign Mandatory Health Bill
NewsMax.com ^ | April 4, 2006 | NewsMax Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 7:05:04 AM PDT by CSM

Tuesday, April 4, 2006 10:54 p.m. EDT Romney to Sign Mandatory Health Bill

BOSTON -- Lawmakers overwhelmingly approved a bill Tuesday that would make Massachusetts the first state to require that all its citizens have some form of health insurance.

The plan — approved just 24 hours after the final details were released — would use a combination of financial incentives and penalties to dramatically expand access to health care over the next three years and extend coverage to the state's estimated 500,000 uninsured.

If all goes as planned, poor people will be offered free or heavily subsidized coverage; those who can afford insurance but refuse to get it will face increasing tax penalties until they obtain coverage; and those already insured will see a modest drop in their premiums.

The measure does not call for new taxes but would require businesses that do not offer insurance to pay a $295 annual fee per employee.

The cost was put at $316 million in the first year, and more than a $1 billion by the third year, with much of that money coming from federal reimbursements and existing state spending, officials said.

The House approved the bill on a 154-2 vote. The Senate endorsed it 37-0.

A final procedural vote is needed in both chambers of the Democratic-controlled legislature before the bill can head to the desk of Gov. Mitt Romney, a potential Republican candidate for president in 2008. Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the governor would sign the bill but would make some changes that wouldn't "affect the main purpose of the bill."

Legislators praised the effort.

"It's only fitting that Massachusetts would set forward and produce the most comprehensive, all-encompassing health care reform bill in the country," said House Speaker Salvatore DiMasi, a Democrat. "Do we know whether this is perfect or not? No, because it's never been done before."

The only other state to come close to the Massachusetts plan is Maine, which passed a law in 2003 to dramatically expand health care. That plan relies largely on voluntary compliance.

"What Massachusetts is doing, who they are covering, how they're crafting it, especially the individual requirement, that's all unique," said Laura Tobler, a health policy analyst for the National Conference of State Legislatures.

The plan hinges in part on two key sections: the $295-per-employee business assessment and a so-called "individual mandate," requiring every citizen who can afford it to obtain health insurance or face increasing tax penalties.

Liberals typically support employer mandates, while conservatives generally back individual responsibility.

"The novelty of what's happened in this building is that instead of saying, `Let's do neither,' leaders are saying, `Let's do both,'" said John McDonough of Health Care for All. "This will have a ripple effect across the country."

The state's poorest — single adults making $9,500 or less a year — will have access to health coverage with no premiums or deductibles.

Those living at up to 300 percent of the federal poverty level, or about $48,000 for a family of three, will be able to get health coverage on a sliding scale, also with no deductibles.

The vast majority of Massachusetts residents who are already insured could see a modest easing of their premiums.

Individuals deemed able but unwilling to purchase health care could face fines of more than $1,000 a year by the state if they don't get insurance.

Romney pushed vigorously for the individual mandate and called the legislation "something historic, truly landmark, a once-in-a-generation opportunity."

One goal of the bill is to protect $385 million pledged by the federal government over each of the next two years if the state can show it is on a path to reducing its number of uninsured.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has threatened to withhold the money if the state does not have a plan up and running by July 1.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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To: Captain Kirk
Ah....yes....but did you vote for him in 2004? If so, your anger was meaningless.

Not meaningless at all. I chose the best option available to me. Even with the out of control spending and the inexplicable loss of his veto pen, Bush was still a far better choice than SKerry.

There is no perfect candidate. I vote for the one that comes closest to my ideals. Sometimes none are very close to that ideal, but I will never refuse to vote. Refusing to vote is effectively a vote for the winner.

101 posted on 04/05/2006 8:39:45 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: CSM
....poor people will be offered free or heavily subsidized coverage; those who can afford insurance but refuse to get it will face increasing tax penalties until they obtain coverage; and those already insured will see a modest drop in their premiums.... The measure does not call for new taxes but would require businesses that do not offer insurance to pay a $295 annual fee per employee.... The cost was put at $316 million in the first year, and more than a $1 billion by the third year, with much of that money coming from federal reimbursements and existing state spending

Wow! What a nightmare. So much for "President Romney".
Not happening in a million years, especially now.

102 posted on 04/05/2006 8:39:51 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The problem lies with the high trial lawyer population.

I agree, that is part of the problem. People (especially lawyers)should not receive massive windfall's when taking legal action.

103 posted on 04/05/2006 8:41:19 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: M203M4

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104 posted on 04/05/2006 8:41:51 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: CSM

"Romney to Sign Mandatory Health Bill"

Says it all, free health care (for some) will be paid for, even if they have to criminalize those who refuse it.


105 posted on 04/05/2006 8:41:53 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Reagan Man
I don't think history is on your side if you think you can compartmentalize the domestic and the foreign. It is hackneyed phrase but, like it or not, every war in American history illustrates this truth: "war is the health of the state." Freepers underestimate the corrupting nature of the national security/world policing state. The spread of big government attitudes among conservatives can be seen everywhere. Ten years ago, for example, "militias" used to be against big government (as conservatives defended liberty at Waco), now they are junior G men for the Feds.

Actually, your other statement is not quite right. The size of government, in terms of spending, actually fell under none other than Bill Clinton. It has skyrocketed under George Bush.

106 posted on 04/05/2006 8:43:52 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The problem lies with the high trial lawyer population.

Why that problem is virtually ignored, is a mystery to me. But I have a question (which is likely silly): are doctors/hospitals able to require a patient to sign a contract that eliminates all legal liability? And refuse to treat anyone who doesn't sign it?

107 posted on 04/05/2006 8:44:00 AM PDT by M203M4
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To: pleikumud
sends a message to those who smoke, abuse alcohol, use illegal drugs, overeat, and never exercise, that the government (taxpayers) will provide "free" medical care.

You seem to be posting this on every one of these threads. Just curious as to whether you're under the impression that people who don't drink, smoke, do drugs, omit exercise, etc. never get sick or injured or have babies with birth defects or, I guess, die. (Among the people I know, admittedly rather a small number perhaps, it's the health nuts who spend the most time with various doctors -- it's almost like a hobby to them!)

108 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:39 AM PDT by maryz
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To: TChris

You wasted your vote. It would have made more sense to vote for yourself (since it didn't determine the election anyway). Was Kerry worse? An equally good question is "Was Clinton worse? Bill Clinton actually cut government spending unlike the guy you voted for.


109 posted on 04/05/2006 8:47:41 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Jeff Head
"The great banner state of liberty from the 1770s is going down (and has been for a long time) a socialistic path which is nothing more than communism/marxism light and is intended to lead there."

The great banner state? This state tried to secede three times, they threatened to join Canada, they refused to furnish troops in the war of 1812, South Carolina used the MA secession papers almost verbatim when they seceded from the union.
110 posted on 04/05/2006 8:47:50 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: CSM

Marx would be proud.

and if anybody needs to see what socialism in America will bring;
all they need do is look at France!


111 posted on 04/05/2006 8:49:03 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: eleni121
or use catastrophic health insurance.

I'm not sure you can buy just catastrophic health ins in MA -- what with all the mandated benefits, mental health care, in vitro fertilization, abortion (of course!), etc., etc. (Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head -- breaking from work -- I know there's many more.)

112 posted on 04/05/2006 8:49:16 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I don't like medical spending accounts. The problem is that it's a "Use It or Lose It" system.

The "Use It or Lose It" aspect is proposed to go away. It will be just like a regular savings account with unlimited draws. No penalties. A modest interest rate.
113 posted on 04/05/2006 8:49:22 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The Democrat Party is engulfed in a Culture of Hypocrisy)
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To: Kerretarded
This used to be an incentive for businesses to get better employees.

It used to successfully drive our health care system. If the employers refuse to offer it the cost will be passed to the taxpayer.

114 posted on 04/05/2006 8:49:29 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Boardwalk
He has a job that pays for most of his health insurance but he refuses that option

How does he manage that? I never heard of a company that let you opt out of health ins unless you could document that you were covered, say, by a spouse's policy.

115 posted on 04/05/2006 8:51:25 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

I wonder, do you side with the "fire employees who smoke, even at home" crowd?


116 posted on 04/05/2006 8:52:03 AM PDT by benjamin032
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To: visualops
He pays cash, and probably saves alot in the long run.
This is how we do things. If we're paying $500/month or so (my husband is self employed), it seems easier to put it aside for an emergency. Our family doesn't go to the doctor for every little thing. When I had my last baby we paid $1400 for a midwife (I know it's not an option for everyone.) But, doctor visits really aren't that much if paid in cash.
117 posted on 04/05/2006 8:52:47 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Yeah, this guy is presidential timber all right.

Maybe Vice Presidential material.

"Hillary / Romney 2008"?

118 posted on 04/05/2006 8:53:38 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside (Watcher of the Skies)
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To: M203M4
Your government mandated permitted activities list will arrive in the mail shortly. Personal responsibility is so passe - let the government assist you, citizen.

Thought the same thing when my city council passed a bill making it MANDATORY for my child to wear a bike helmet while riding anywhere. How many times did I wear a helmet as a kid? Never. How many times did I hit my head? Plenty. Did it hurt? Yep. Is it a good idea to wear a helmet? Sure. Should the use of helmets be promoted? Yes. Should it be mandatory? HELL NO!
119 posted on 04/05/2006 8:54:14 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The Democrat Party is engulfed in a Culture of Hypocrisy)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
The great banner state of the 1770's...just like I said.

I also said that they had been departing therefrom for a long time. They may have tried to secede, but they never did, did they? Thanks for punctuating the point though. All of that said, I stand by the comment regarding Mass's contribution and influence during the revolutionary war.

120 posted on 04/05/2006 8:55:04 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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