Posted on 04/05/2006 4:39:01 AM PDT by Liz
Edited on 04/05/2006 4:58:53 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
A push to give Big Apple residents who aren't citizens the right to vote kicks off today, with throngs of immigrants flocking to City Hall to back legislation giving them access to the ballot box.
The Voting Rights Restoration Act would allow permanent residents, or "green card" holders, who have lived in the city for more than six months to vote in local elections. "We have a large number of people who are documented and pay taxes, but can't vote," said Councilman Kendall Stewart (D-Manhattan), chairman of the council's Immigration Committee and a prime sponsor of the bill.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Call your reps and call your senators. Express your opinion.
In pre-WWII Germany, the Nazis euphemistically named programs and laws to use as propaganda tools---such as the "Reichssicherheitshauptamt," the Department of Home Security, an organization whose real intent was to spy on and manipulate fear among the citizenry. The regime used such laws to successfully promote hatred of Jews and other classes of people they wished to marginalize. We know the infamous results. This may be a most propitious time to heed Santayana's oft-quoted, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Now here's another way through the illegal jungle: If employers who are officers of publicly-held companies are using company assets illegally by employing illegals, they are jeopardizing the investments of partners and shareholders.
The SEC would want to know about it. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov
Now here's another way through the illegal jungle: If employers who are officers of publicly-held companies are using company assets illegally by employing illegals, they are jeopardizing the investments of partners and shareholders.
The SEC would want to know about it. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov
The plan is for it to be gotten rid of....entirely
The 20 million illegals are just part of the triangulation...
The enemy has America's institutions...the courts,the legislative,the judicial,looks like the executive branches as well as a fat elephant of bureaucracy waiting to land on the US Constitution with all four feet..
The only group really doing anything tangible about the illegals are the Minutemen and all they dare do is report the invasion to the 'proper authorities'...
The illegals pretty much have the run of the place with no one to stop them...the gov't ...OUR gov't takes their side and protects them against 'we the people'...this is not going to change...as long as the elected politicians refuse to listen to 'we the people'..
The new world odor has it's own plans...and they don't include no US Constitution...or US sovereignty...
White middle class Anglo Saxon conservative Christians with guns and private property are an anathema to the globalist elite..and set a bad example to the rest of the world's peony classes...they gotta go....first
The Mexicans and OTMs know how to live in a jack boot police state full of corrupt politicians and police...
These laborer sheep are perfect for the NWO...and will replace those who are not...
imo
This gets crazier and crazier.
Now the law breakers want to vote?
The world is upside-down.
Liz, Bush the illegals champion will speak today on immigration, (this AM),,I am not expecting to hear we have sealed the borders and are deporting illegals...If impeachment is an option this non enforcement of our CURRENT laws is the root complaint.
......In Chicago, ILLEGALS are allowed and ENCOURAGED to vote in the local election for the individual school councils. Richie Daley let the ILLEGALS Vote and serve on the Councils. ILLEGALS are making monetary (taxing) decisions for U.S. Citizens......
If the City of Chicago (and other towns within the purview of those reading this) are spending tax funds for illegal purposes, the investors and holders of Chicago tax-exempt bonds for transportation and highways, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, have been placed in financial jeopardy.
The SEC should be advised of yours, and bondholders, concerns
EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov
If duly elected officials are demanding and encouraging ILLEGALS to break the law, to obtain the unlawful right to vote, and if elected and appointed officals did, in fact, allow illegals to break the law to serve on municipal councils, and if illegals are making monetary (taxing) decisions for U.S. Citizens, this might be a violation of the Hobbs Act...... If officials took campaign contributions from said illegals, this could be characterized as extortion, and/or bribery, and a violation of the Hobbs Act. The Hobbs Act was used recently to nail four Tenn state legislators and their aids in an extortion scheme. The TENN groups was arrested under the federal Hobbs Act, charging extortion, conspiracy to extort and attempted extortion, and accepting bribes by an agent of the state.
The Hobbs Act covers extortion by public officials, as follows: 2403 Hobbs Act -- Extortion By Force, Violence, or Fear
SOURCE October 1997 Criminal Resource Manual 2403 http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm02403.htm
In order to prove a violation of Hobbs Act extortion by the wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, the following questions must be answered affirmatively:
Did the defendant induce or attempt to induce the victim to give up property or property rights?
"Property" has been held to be "any valuable right considered as a source of wealth." United States v. Tropiano, 418 F.2d 1069, 1075 (2d Cir. 1969) (the right to solicit garbage collection customers). "Property" includes the right of commercial victims to conduct their businesses. See United States v. Zemek, 634 F.3d 1159, 1174 (9th Cir. 1980) (the right to make business decisions and to solicit business free from wrongful coercion) and cited cases). It also includes the statutory right of union members to democratically participate in union affairs. See United States v. Debs, 949 F.2d 199, 201 (6th Cir. 1991) (the right to support candidates for union office); United States v. Teamsters Local 560, 550 F. Supp. 511, 513-14 (D.N.J. 1982), aff'd, 780 F.2d 267 (3rd Cir. 1985) (rights guaranteed union members by the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act, 29 U.S.C. § 411).
Did the defendant use or attempt to use the victim's reasonable fear of physical injury or economic harm in order to induce the victim's consent to give up property?
A defendant need not create the fear of injury or harm which he exploits to induce the victim to give up property. See United States v. Duhon, 565 F.2d 345, 349 and 351 (5th Cir. 1978) (offer by employer to pay union official for labor peace held to be "simply planning for inevitable demand for money" by the union official under the circumstances); United States v. Gigante, 39 F.3d 42, 49 (2d Cir. 1994), vacated on other grounds and superseded in part on denial of reh'g, 94 F.3d 53 (2d Cir. 1996) (causing some businesses to refuse operations with the victim sufficiently induced the victim's consent to give up property, consisting of a right to contract freely with other businesses, as long as there were other businesses beyond defendants' control with whom the victim could do business).
Moreover, attempted extortion may include an attempt to instill fear in a federal agent conducting a covert investigation or a defendant "made of unusually stern stuff." See United States v. Gambino, 566 F.2d 414, 419 (2d Cir. 1977) (argument that FBI agent pretending to be extortion victim could not be placed in fear is not a defense to attempted extortion of the agent); see also United States v. Ward, 914 F.2d 1340, 1347 (9th Cir. 1990) (an attempt to instill fear included a demand for money from a victim who knew that the defendant was only pretending to be a federal undercover agent when he threatened the victim with prosecution unless money was paid).
However, the payment of money in response to a commercial bribe solicitation, that is, under circumstances where the defendant does not threaten the victim with economic harm, but only offers economic assistance in return for payment to which the defendant is not entitled, is not sufficient to prove extortion by fear of economic loss. United States v. Capo, 817 F.2d 947, 951-52 (2d Cir. 1987) (solicitation of money from job applicants by persons having no decision-making authority in return for favorable influence with employment counselors was insufficient evidence of inducement by fear); but see United States v. Blanton, 793 F.2d 1553, 1558 (11th Cir. 1986) (inducement by fear was proven by the defendant's solicitation of a labor consulting contract, to help employer stop outside union organizing, when the solicitation was accompanied by defendant's threat to form another union and begin organizing employees if the consulting contract was not accepted).
Did the defendant's conduct actually or potentially obstruct, delay, or affect interstate or foreign commerce in any (realistic) way or degree?
The Hobbs Act regulates extortion and robbery, which Congress has determined have a substantial effect on interstate and foreign commerce by reason of their repetition and aggregate effect on the economy. Therefore, the proscribed offenses fall within the category of crimes based on the Commerce Clause whose "de minimis character of individual instances arising under [the] statute is of no consequence." United States v. Bolton, 68 F.3d 396, 399 (10th Cir. 1995) (upholding Hobbs Act convictions for robberies whose proceeds the defendant would have used to purchase products in interstate commerce), quoting, United States v. Lopez, --- U.S. ---, 115 S.Ct. 1624, 1630 (1995); material in brackets added; see also United States v. Atcheson, 94 F.3d 1237, 1243 (9th Cir. 1996) (robbery of out-of-state credit and ATM cards); United States v. Farmer, 73 F.3d 836, 843 (8th Cir. 1996) (robbery of commercial business); United States v. Stillo, 57 F.3d 553, 558 n.2 (7th Cir. 1995).
Hobbs Act violations may be supported by proof of a direct effect on the channels or instrumentalities of interstate or foreign commerce, as for example, where the threatened conduct would result in the interruption of the interstate movement of goods or labor. See United States v. Taylor, 92 F.3d 1313, 1333 (2d Cir. 1996) (extortion of money, unwanted labor, and subcontracts on construction projects by threatened shutdowns and labor unrest); United States v. Hanigan, 681 F.2d 1127, 1130-31 (9th Cir. 1982) (robbery of three undocumented alien farm workers while they were traveling from Mexico to the United States in search of work); United States v. Capo, 791 F.2d 1054, 1067-68 (2d Cir. 1986), vacated on other grounds, 817 F.2d 947 (2d Cir. 1987) (scheme to extort local job applicants had a potential effect on interstate applicants who might otherwise be hired).
Indirect effects on such commerce are also sufficient, as for example, where the obtaining of property and resulting depletion of the victim's assets decreases the victim's ability to make future expenditures for items in interstate commerce.
Taylor, supra (depletion of contractors' assets). However, the Seventh Circuit has distinguished Hobbs Act cases involving depletion of a business' assets from those involving the depletion of an individual employee's assets which, the court has ruled, are not as likely to satisfy the jurisdictional requirement of the Hobbs Act. United States v. Mattson, 671 F.2d 1020 (7th Cir. 1982); United States v. Boulahanis, 677 F.2d 586, 590 (7th Cir. 1982). Other circuits have agreed where the extortion or robbery of an individual has only an "attenuated" or "speculative" effect on some entity or group of individuals engaged in interstate commerce thereby diminishing the "realistic probability" that such commerce will be affected. See United States v. Collins, 40 F.3d 95, 100 (5th Cir. 1994) (conviction for robbery of a computer company employee reversed on grounds that theft of victim's automobile with cellular phone had an insufficient effect on his employer's business); United States v. Quigley, 53 F.3d 909 (8th Cir. 1995) (upholding the acquittal, following guilty verdict, of defendants who beat and robbed two individuals in route to buy beer at a liquor store).
Was the defendant's actual or threatened use of force, violence or fear wrongful?
Generally, the extortionate obtaining of property by the wrongful use of actual or threatened force or violence in a commercial dispute requires proof of a defendant's intent to induce the victim to give up property. No additional proof is required that the defendant was not entitled to such property or that he knew he had no claim to the property which he sought to obtain. See United States v. Agnes, 581 F.Supp. 462 (E.D. Pa. 1984), aff'd, 753 F.2d 293, 297-300 (3d Cir. 1985) (rejecting claim of right defense to defendant's use of violence to withdraw property from a business partnership). EXCERPTED TO HERE.
I think we need to allow another 15 or 20 million invaders into the nation. Or better yet just declar the US/Mex border null and void and enforce no immigrations laws, that should do it. Bye bye USA.
Bingo. Taxes are the only common thread that connects the citizens to the entity called the US.
The end of the military draft was the beginning of the end for any sense of national identity.
"and WE are laughing at the French riots? No difference here...wait and see."
I predict violent marches this summer. Our future freedom and rights as legal taxpaying U.S. Citizens will be determined by how hard and loud we fight back.
Everybody be sure to spend plenty of money or make a donation to the Minuteman Project on May Day to counteract their planned boycott on work and purchases. Save this day for your big ticket item purchases. Buy a new U.S. made American Flag. WE can hopefully show the govt how insignificant the illegals really are via our wallets and at the voting booth. I don't care if the politician is Dem or Gop, vote them out if they continue to pander to illegal activity. Throw 'em out on their collective arse's.
Something has to be done soon before we lose our country.
Turn in any suspected illegal or employer of same today!
Im with you all the way!!
Me, too, but we both know that'll never happen. It may offend the illegals and then the ACLU will sue the state for discrimination. Plus, who would commit the crimes that Americans don't want to do?
Keep up the good work, Force!
Will George Pataki or any sane official ever try to stop this insane idea? Will any Democrat ever decide to admit that they hate America and want illegals, who are felons or idiots or communists or socialist just for their voter registration roles? Will the wussy Pubs ever come out and demand that this baloney cease? Will Bush? We have lost the nation if this type of reasoning spreads to all 50 states.
bttt
Bilge. There was no draft between the Civil War and WWI, IIRC, and we did just fine with national identity.
Nobody who cares about winning in combat wants the draft back, it was a freakin' disaster and the Army and Air Force didn't really finish recovering from it until a decade after Vietnam.
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