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China’s new Latin American revolution
ft ^ | April 4 2006 | Humphrey Hawksley

Posted on 04/04/2006 5:40:57 PM PDT by Flavius

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But while international political focus has been largely on Islamic fundamentalism and Iraq, an alternative economic and political system has begun to test itself in the Americas – one that may end up seriously challenging western democratic thinking.

Under the slogan “peaceful rising”, China is “selling” itself to Africa and Latin America as the model for ending poverty. Its pitch is finding an audience among governments that have watched China’s growth leap and their own stagnate while being lectured by the International Monetary Fund and patronised by aid agencies. China’s poor of 20 years ago are now taking out mortgages on first homes while elsewhere others are still scrabbling around for a pair of shoes.

Inevitably, debate will intensify about the relative merits of the Chinese way of doing things. But the real issue is how America will react. China may claim east Asia as its arena. Africa needs any new idea it can get. But Latin America is a different. case. As far back as 1823, when a string of Latin American countries had just gained independence from Spain, James Monroe, the US president, introduced his eponymous doctrine to deter further colonisation of the region.

Prompted then by fears that France, Russia and Spain would club together to take back the newly independent countries, the Monroe doctrine decreed that attempts by European nations to influence the New World would be considered dangerous to the “peace and safety” of the US. After the European threat diminished, the Monroe doctrine remained a cornerstone of US foreign policy. In the cold war it was implemented with ferocity against the Soviet Union’s influence on Cuba, Grenada, Chile and Nicaragua, to name a few.

A generation on and Latin American voters are displaying a tendency to elect left-leaning, US-sceptic leaders – from Hugo Chavez in Venezuela to the softer Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva in Brazil. The next test will be in Peru on Sunday where Ollanta Humala, a populist retired army commander, leads presidential election opinion polls.

For some US legislators and policymakers, the combination of poor societies, left-wing movements and a communist giant make enough of a formula to want to dust off the Monroe doctrine to curb the influence of a rising China. “We should always look at Latin America in relation to the Munroe doctrine,” says Dan Burton, Republican chair of the House subcommittee on the western hemisphere. “We have concerns: Chavez, Castro, Ortega, Morales in Bolivia and their connections with communist China. . .we need to pay particular attention to that.”

If Latin America is not to find itself a new testing ground between an insecure America and an increasingly confident China, this cold war spectre, raised at routine congressional hearings, must be addressed now. Already, among US conspiracy theorists, China’s runaway economy, undervalued currency, absorption of US manufacturing jobs and growing overseas investment risks being portrayed as a Middle Kingdom master plan to conquer the world. The reality of what China might achieve is anybody’s guess. Almost half of China’s direct foreign investment is going into Latin America, and Beijing has pledged it will reach $100bn (£57.7bn) in the next five years. Joint ventures have been agreed in steel, transport and energy and military exchanges are increasing.

None of that should cause Americans concern, unless viewed alongside Beijing’s deep-seated and unresolved differences on how societies should be governed. In the US, it is through elections. In China, it is by ending poverty.

Both governments need to increase opportunities for dialogue. A year from now might be too late. For its part, America should make clear to China the line it must not cross in Latin America if it wants to avoid resurrection of the Monroe doctrine. Most probably, it will be set in the military arena.For China’s part, it must win the argument against comparisons with the cold war-era Soviet Union.

Both governments must work at quelling nationalist voices at home. They should agree, even in private, that what is now termed the “Chinese model” was used by the US to create the successful economies of Taiwan and South Korea in Asia and Chile in Latin America – durable institutions built under nasty dictatorships. Should things get out of hand and cold war fever prevail, there will be a twist. China is one of the biggest owners of US debt, and US stores rely on Chinese goods. The concept of “mutually assured destruction” might be revived – but it will begin with economic, rather than nuclear, holocaust.

The writer, a BBC correspondent and Asia specialist, is an author, most recently of Third World War (Pan); his report on China and Latin America aired this week as part of the BBC’s Inside Latin America series


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chavez; chicoms; china; communism; danburton; hegemony; latin; peacefulrising; russia; sco; sovietunion
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1 posted on 04/04/2006 5:40:57 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

b ttt


2 posted on 04/04/2006 5:41:31 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: dennisw; Flavius

Today's American leaders are too weak-kneed to declare a 21st century Monroe doctrine.


3 posted on 04/04/2006 5:43:44 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: Flavius
None of that should cause Americans concern, unless viewed alongside Beijing’s deep-seated and unresolved differences on how societies should be governed. In the US, it is through elections. In China, it is by ending poverty.

Say whaaaaaa?

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The balance of power and loyalty is shifting historically...it's time to secure allies.

4 posted on 04/04/2006 5:47:29 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: Flavius

I really don't understand the point of this article. Is it that the US should accomodate China because it holds US debt. Or is it that Latin countries are going to become more communist? or ???

IMHO Chinese investment in Latin America is not a threat, it's capitalism.


5 posted on 04/04/2006 5:50:07 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: John Filson

Few FReepers will read this thread . There are too many frivolous ones. China is encircling us


6 posted on 04/04/2006 5:51:26 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: dennisw

Some of us are paying attention, and paying attention to those who aren't.


7 posted on 04/04/2006 5:52:08 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: dennisw
China’s poor of 20 years ago are now taking out mortgages on first homes....

They must be referring to the poor of 20 years ago who were lucky enough to have survived the cleansing of mao. Some economic miracle. I hope Latin America isn't forced to go through it.

8 posted on 04/04/2006 6:09:44 PM PDT by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: dennisw
It does appear that Latin America and to some extent S. America is easily lured into Communism and Marxism.

China will have a easier time strengthening relations with them, because, to a larger extent than the USSR, China has money.
9 posted on 04/04/2006 6:35:29 PM PDT by Marius3188
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To: Flavius

Don't forget our Russian "Friends" in all of this. They have a major role in the Communist movements in Latin America. The Russians give weapons away for bare-bones prices, and then give the latin american soldiers training (With thier Chinese allies).


10 posted on 04/04/2006 6:38:06 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Marius3188

Russia now has money as well, unlike the first Cold War.


11 posted on 04/04/2006 6:38:34 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Marius3188

Also, don't forget the Shanghai Coorperative Organization (This consists of the "Former" USSR and the PRC). One of their stated goals is to remove the influence of the US from Latin America, and then to spread Communism.


12 posted on 04/04/2006 6:41:18 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Flavius; Northern Yankee; shaggy eel; saradippity
For its part, America should make clear to China the line it must not cross in Latin America if it wants to avoid resurrection of the Monroe doctrine.

Hmmmm....*ping*

Methinks China has been doing just that.

That said, I seriously doubt our gov't have the collective testicular fortitude to enforce the Monroe Doctrine.

13 posted on 04/04/2006 6:45:28 PM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: Marius3188; dennisw
It does appear that Latin America and to some extent S. America is easily lured into Communism and Marxism.

It's very evident in these so called "immigration demonstrations."

Why did they pick May 1st for their nationwide demonstration?

Maybe a "coincidence" (I doubt it, but that's just me). But the overwhelming "message" these LaRaza, MENCha groups, et al, are pushing are, in fact, Marxist.

And they are financially backed by such.

14 posted on 04/04/2006 6:49:35 PM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: kstewskis

They were just talking about China, and Catholics in China, on Relevant Radio yesterday.


15 posted on 04/04/2006 7:27:55 PM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: Northern Yankee
They were just talking about China, and Catholics in China, on Relevant Radio yesterday.

Darn, I wished I would have heard that!

(those people need our prayers too!)

16 posted on 04/04/2006 7:30:19 PM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: kstewskis

The Russians have also crossed the line by giving Venezuela weapons and promising to set up weapon factories there.


17 posted on 04/04/2006 9:17:20 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
It's not looking pretty.

I am very concerned.

18 posted on 04/04/2006 9:39:05 PM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: John Filson
"Today's American leaders are too weak-kneed to declare a 21st century Monroe doctrine."

Amazing, isn't it? I'm personally starting to wonder if they're not reading off some Communist-sympathizer playbook from back in the '60's. Joe McCarthy was on to something bigger than just a few commies in the media, IMHO.

19 posted on 04/04/2006 10:29:24 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: John Filson
"Today's American leaders are too weak-kneed to declare a 21st century Monroe doctrine."

Amazing, isn't it? I'm personally starting to wonder if they're not reading off some Communist-sympathizer playbook from back in the '60's. Joe McCarthy was on to something bigger than just a few commies in the media, IMHO.

20 posted on 04/04/2006 10:29:26 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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