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The socialists will never understand the worthiness of wanting to instill traditional values in their children.
1 posted on 04/04/2006 4:57:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
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"Dutch MP says Stay-At-Home Mothers should be Punished for “Throwing Away” Education"

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2 posted on 04/04/2006 4:59:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Sharon Dijksma believes that punitive measures should be taken against women ...

Unlike dykes, real women /mothers need to be smarter than their children. Sounds like Ms Dijksma could have done with a bit more education herself to understand the dynamics.

Human beings aren't puppies. Well, maybe the socialist ones...

4 posted on 04/04/2006 5:03:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: wagglebee

They really do see us as revenue producing drones.

In their minds, the old fashioned ways of the drones parenting methods, are no longer efficient enough for the modern state.


5 posted on 04/04/2006 5:03:28 PM PDT by ansel12
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"...one of the central tenets of socialism which says women can only have value when they are in the paid labour force and that motherhood and childrearing is a form of slavery."

I have absolutely no doubt what-so-ever that Hillary totally agrees with this statement. Which is why it should be on every bill board with her face next to it.


6 posted on 04/04/2006 5:03:39 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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With his logic, no one should be allowed to throw away their education. No one should be allowed to be on welfare either. He is calling stay at home mothers a burden, all welfare certainly is then a burden.


7 posted on 04/04/2006 5:09:00 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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Too bad her mother wasn't sterile.


9 posted on 04/04/2006 5:11:30 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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My take is that you always have many, many years to use that education career-wise. But only a few years to take care of children.


10 posted on 04/04/2006 5:13:49 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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For one thing, well-educated women have something special to offer their children, especialy if they home-school or otherwise take an active part in their children's education.

For another thing, most stay-at-home mothers ARE in the paid labor force for some part of their lifespan, typically either before the babies come, or after they're all grown up and have left the nest.

You can have it all... just not all at the same time...

11 posted on 04/04/2006 5:15:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (A proud, practicing Homo sapiens.)
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This was similar to what the raving feminist author said on "Good Morning America" about two weeks ago, where she said EVERY woman who got married and had children was "damaging" the women's movement.

No kidding.

13 posted on 04/04/2006 5:16:02 PM PDT by LS
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In a country that is dying because it is not producing enough vhildren it is ludicrous to say that children are a waste.


16 posted on 04/04/2006 5:29:45 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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Who cares what this woman says?

Because of her attitude, in 30 years, the Netherlands will be majority Muslim; she will be wearing a burkha, and if she opens her mouth to spew her bile, Achmed will smash her in the face with a rifle butt.

17 posted on 04/04/2006 5:39:24 PM PDT by Castlebar
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Related article: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/946

22 posted on 04/04/2006 5:50:16 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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It does make sense, however. I think he's talking about higher education grants never being "paid back" to society and he thinks they should literally have to fork over the costs taxpayers have encored for educating these women who choose to use that funding and give nothing back. I believe a fair case can be made these women who have chosen this path have gotten a "free ride" while others have had to work, take out loans, etc. The gravy train should end. Seems pretty taxpayer friendly.

Basically it would convert an education grant into an education loan if the person doesn't actually make productive use of their taxpayer subsidized higher education. There are men too who will study, get a degree and never make use of that degree in that field. Perhaps any publicly funded grants they are awarded should also be converted to loans.

24 posted on 04/04/2006 5:58:34 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Fellow 50th Congressional Freepers: Don't fall for Bilbray!)
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To: wagglebee

The same socialists that believe that big government can change the weather, also believe they can reengineer human nature. Their ultimate Utopian accomplishment will come when when they have, through a massive government effort, reached for the benifit of all mankind, that illusive pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

For a good look at socialism given free reign to take the burdon of raising children from the productive worker, check this out:

http://www.cnd.org/HYPLAN/yawei/orphan/index.html


25 posted on 04/04/2006 6:04:17 PM PDT by jonrick46
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I've been told that I'm wasting my education staying home with my children. When people say that, it tells me a lot about their values.


26 posted on 04/04/2006 6:08:20 PM PDT by FourPeas
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Is milking the taxpayers for all they're worth a "traditional value" in your view?

There is nothing wrong with an educated population, in this case we're talking "highly educated" women. But when those women have their higher education paid for by tax dollars and don't move into the working world, what do the tax payers get out of the deal? Why should they pay for just a few select to be highly educated mothers and not all women? If they don't use the education, the grants should be converted to loans just like all those who couldn't get grants must carry loans as a burden of their becoming "highly educated."

This isn't about basic education which benefits all by (in theory) keeping you from turning to crime, off welfare and into a contributing member of society on some level.

28 posted on 04/04/2006 6:10:20 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Fellow 50th Congressional Freepers: Don't fall for Bilbray!)
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Sharon Dijksma believes that punitive measures should be taken against women who choose to stay at home with children after graduating from university instead of entering the paid workforce.

“A highly educated woman who chooses to stay home and not to work: that is destruction of capital”

Welcome to the future everyone. An entire generation of leftists have had their way to redistribute the earnings of hard working citizens to fulfill their dream of utopia. Now we are about to enter Phase 2...where leftists will make judgments on how everyone should spend "their" money.

Coming to a Congressional session near you...

35 posted on 04/04/2006 6:38:08 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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The socialists will never understand the worthiness of wanting to instill traditional values in their children.

Oh they understand it. That's why they're agin' it. They know that traditional values are antithetical to both the aims and means of socialism.

36 posted on 04/04/2006 6:47:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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So homeschooling is *throwing away my education*? I don't think so. I was a much better teacher to my kids for it and they got a much better education for it. When I finished up my degree, I hadn't even heard of homeschooling so it was not a factor in getting my degree but it sure paid dividends I didn't expect. It gave me the opportunity to better prepare my kids to be successful, productive members of society.


37 posted on 04/04/2006 8:30:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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38 posted on 04/04/2006 8:31:26 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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