It's scary to think the ballot box is no longer able to do its job. That leaves only one option.
when exactly did illegals get the tight to vote? (except for dirty democrabs)
While the GOP is busy pandering to illegal aliens they have alienated me.
Simple but true.
I have never met a LEGAL immigrant who wanted this type of amnesty program.
I HAVE MET illegal aliens who wanted this type of program and were not really immigrants but ecconomic looters.
They wanted to take all they could and then take it back to the old country.
Here's a hint: The rabble in the street isn't going to vote GOP in any circumstances.
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The lame Repubs in Washington do not get it. Even today. Of course, the last things we should expect from Washington is a vote that represents WHAT IS RIGHT for the American people -- only right for VOTES. That is what this cesspool issue is all about now. VOTES. And, as usual, all at the expense of the American taxpaying CITIZEN.
All of it is moot anyway, if the pro-illegal traitors in the Congress do not CLOSE THE BORDER. That is priority one with any plan. But we continue to hear the weasel-word "ENFORCEMENT" way too much. Which means we are not going to do anything -- just let the flow of illegals continue...so how many will see amnesty in say, 2010 ??? We should have about 30-35 million by then, with the present flow rate, and the obscene birthrate...
Don't these idiots understand math? They're so concerned about the hispanics, which might worth be several million votes at the most vs. pissing off tens of millions of TAXPAYING American voters........how stupid can they be?
Sometimes I have to wonder if the GOP isn't ran by morons. I know the Democrats are but when such stories as this this cast the debate as if all legal immigrants are supportive of illegal immigrants and quote individuals like Senator Linsey Graham making stupid statements about criminalizing grandparents.
Most legal minorities support border control as do most blacks and most of the poor. One of the key growth groups for the GOP are the "working poor" and they have the most to lose from illegals depressing wages and making the job market even more competitive than it is. Illegal workers are a net negative to our economy and society and the most sure- fire way for Republicans to lose the Hispanic vote is to lump all immigrants with illegals.
...it's too bad the GOP doesn't fear alienating its base...
First of all, the majority of legal Hispanic voters resent illegal aliens and are dead against amnesty. ...so the GOP could very well be alienating them by pursuing this particular course.
And secondly, the GOP seems to be taking for granted that they won't lose a significant percentage of traditional voters ("they have nowhere else to go"), which of course is ridiculous.
The GOP is now a fear-based party.
ONE question how do illegal hispanics vote?
Second ques, how many so called liberal democrat legal hispanics do you really think will vote Republican?
Third ques do you REALLY wnat to alienate legal citizens who are and have voted for you all in the past? You r base? oh you think you don't have to worry about us? Ok than.
Aren't they all felons? 11million people who won't ever be able to vote.
Where's their concern about alienating the citizens who put them in office? Any talk of that has yet to hit my ears.
I always love to see where 'they' are afraid of stirring up a certain block of voters. What about the largest block of voters???? You know the American citizens??? Sure seems 'they' are unconcerned about about rocking that voting block.
Simply amazing.
I guess the Republican philosophy pre-supposes that legal Mexican immigrants are in favor of illegal immigration.
I imagine some are and some aren't. They should find out how many are of each opinion before they stake their platform on it.
The Hispanders love to trot this one out. But it is pretty lame. The Republican Majority in California was lost by the Reagan Amnesty. Consider that between 1952 and 1988, California voted Republican in every election except 1964 (9 out of 10). Beginning in 1992, which is two years before Proposition 187, California became a blue state and has not voted for the Republicans since. And recall that Arnold Schwarzenegger won the Davis recall election in-part by promising to repeal the Driver's Licenses for Illegals bill that Davis passed as a bit of hopeless hispandering.
Amnesty in 1986 cost the Republicans California. Amnesty in 2006 will cost us Colorado and Florida and possibly Texas and Arizona. It sure won't get us anything (except even bigger losses) in New York or Illinois or Massachusetts which are the blue states with lots of Hispanics.
All amnesty will do is create vast numbers of new voters for the Democrats.
My wife is a native-born citizen of hispanic ancestry. She voted for Bush twice.
And she says we need to throw the illegals out. And she no longer support's Bush's agenda because of his pandering to the illegal immigration interests.
The GOP is going to suffer mightily, Graham. But for the exact opposite reasons you are stating. If you keep illegals ILLEGAL, they won't be able to friggin' vote - and the native-born and legally-entered hispanic population of this country will largely support that. But betray the base, and there will be woe for the GOP.
Present Hispanic citizens have their wages lowered more than anyone else by illegals.
While the various waves of European settlers, from the late 1780s through World War I--and even up until 1965--regardless of where in Europe, they originated, came primarily to embrace the unique American ethnicity reflected in the acceptance of certain cultural norms by the Anglo-Saxon, Scots-Irish, Dutch and Huguenot, etc., settler stocks, which had rallied to the Revolution; the Third World immigration flow since then has other norms, which however admirable in their own sphere, have already impacted many urban areas in a direction very different indeed from our traditional perspectives.
If we do not stand up for our own value system--which is much more complex than simply a work ethic, or a desire to better one's lot, economically--we are going to wake up, sooner, rather than later--in a land that has gone beyond the point recognizable by those wedded to the American tradition. We cannot afford to listen to the voices of defeat in a battle that has not even been joined by most Americans, who have been lulled to sleep by the propagandists in the centers of Leftwing Academia, and among the sycophants in the mass media, who look to Leftwing Academia for guidance.
It is a shame, that Lindsay Graham has abandoned the traditional devotion to principle, that so long characterized his State's political leadership, to embrace this current version of political "pragmatism." But that will not sanctify it in the slightest.
William Flax