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1 posted on 04/03/2006 5:23:51 PM PDT by Calpernia
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The study concluded that Khumeini was delivered to Tahran during the revolution by an American combat aircraft?

Iran obtained F-14s under the Shah's reign, perhaps one of these did the delivery.

51 posted on 04/03/2006 7:07:48 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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bump


62 posted on 04/03/2006 8:02:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Peace happens when evil is vanquished -- Cal Thomas)
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OKCSubmariner was way ahead of his time.


64 posted on 04/03/2006 8:07:04 PM PDT by OKSooner
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OK, hubby read the posting before I had a chance, but when he told me he read about the OKC bombing with the 2 red x's next to it in this article last week on FR, I told him "No you didn't, I told you about that". I came across it one night while reading docs.

I also came across this, in the same document:

*Page 98 of 314
The brothers will be assigned to the committees.
Concerning our adversary, we receive news.
They wish to settle the matter before the end of December and January.
In October, there might be an incident.
We in return are preparing too.
The next six months are crucial for both sides.
Positive change is observed by students, educators and scholars, and some merchants.

Anyone remember what happened in October of 2000? USS Cole.

And I wonder if the brothers being assigned to the committees are the flight teams for 9-11? My impression is the other lines are talking about 9-11 preparation, but that's just IMO. Didn't Moussouie come to the US in January 2001?

The other thing, this document is from the Harmony database, not the Iraq docs one. These came from Afghanistan.

71 posted on 04/03/2006 8:21:05 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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Well thank god we executed Tim McVeigh.


72 posted on 04/03/2006 8:22:38 PM PDT by Dr. Nobel Dynamite
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There is no doubt in my mind that Iraq was involved in the OKC bombing and reading McVeigh's letter to the newspaper revealed that his motives where entirely revolving around Iraq. But these papers are just maddening in their circumspection and hints.


73 posted on 04/03/2006 8:23:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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bttt


84 posted on 04/03/2006 8:45:42 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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As the new popular song goes......"Bush was right."
88 posted on 04/03/2006 9:16:21 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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Nonsense they're all run by nasty white guys from Idaho


92 posted on 04/04/2006 1:38:40 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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93 posted on 04/04/2006 1:44:03 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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I've had this info archived for a lo-o-o-ong time. From my files:

Ramzi Yousef (1993 WTC) and Terry Nichols crossed paths in the Phillipines. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was Yousef's uncle. It is interesting to note that Yousef entered the United States on an Iraqi passport and had been known among the New York fundamentalists as "Rashid, the Iraqi". Another name that could be thrown into the mix is Abdul Rahman Yasin, a U.S. citizen who moved to Iraq in the 1960's and returned to the U.S. in 1992. After the 1993 WTC bombing, Yasin fled to Iraq and was given monthly salary and housing by Saddam Hussein's regime.

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95 posted on 04/04/2006 6:02:28 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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Bookmarking


96 posted on 04/04/2006 6:03:52 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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Saudi Entrepeneur Adnan Khashoggi Linked to 911 Terrorists

Emad Salem, the FBI informant - also the government's key witness in the trial of Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman and ten followers accused of plotting to blow up the UN, an FBI office and two tunnels - was a hopeless confabulator by his own admission. And a loaded one: Salem was paid a million dollars for his testimony.

The Egyptian bodyguard for Sheik Rahman admitted under questionning that he had lied for years about his past. He boasted to his FBI handlers that he had been an intelligence officer in the Egyption army, when in fact, Salem said, he had been a lowly technical officer. He freely offered that on one occasion, as the New York Times reported in March 1995, he even lied under oath in a criminal trial in Manhattan, saying he had been wounded trying to protect President Anwar Sadat of Egypt when he was assassinated in 1981.

Defense attorney William Kunstler investigated and discovered that Salem was a lieutenant colonel in the Egyptian army, an unreliable witness, one who never stopped working for the Egyptian government. Kunstler grumbled that Salem - a bigamist with one wife in New York and another in Egypt - was devoid of character: He divulged that he had had amnesia since January of 1992, and that he had been going to a psychiatrist by the name of Dr. Stein to help him with this situation...

It was devolved under questionning that Mr. Salem had received a quarter million to one million dollars for his services as an FBI informant. In one meeting with FBI, Agent John Anticev - secretly taped by Salem - had an argument over escalating expenses:

Anticev: ... It's like a little out of the ordinary.

Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant...

Defense attorney Ron Kuby listened to the tape and commented: We have received information that [Salem] was visually observed at the scene of the bombing shortly after the bombing took place. Shortly after that, he was admitted to the hospital, suffering from an ear problem that was consistent with exposure to blast. The mastermind is the government of the United States."

Apart from the compensation that Salem received as an FBI asset, he was also funded, according to Kunstler, by other sources linked to foreign governments, including money from an organization founded [by] Rabbi Meir Kahane.

He's just a dirty son-of-a-bitch, Kunstler opined.

So were the zealots in Rahmanís Koran-happy wrecking crew. Four of the bombers were convicted in 1994 on charges of conspiracy, possession of explosives and assault. The defendents confessed that they were incited to murder by US support for Israel. Ramsey Yousef, the bomb plots mastermind, proclaimed at his sentencing hearing in January 1998: Yes, I am a terrorist and proud of it as long as it is against the U.S. government."

Sheik Omar Rahman was one of three spiritual guides on Yousef's cratered path through life. Though the cleric had been placed on the national watch list, he entered the US with ease, thanks to a much-disputed visa issued to him by a CIA agent. Robert Freidman wrote that Rahman was infamous throughout the Arab world for his role in the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar el-Sadat.

Egypt: The government was gripped by a civil war with Islamic warriors, including hundreds of CIA-trained guerrillas in the Afghan struggle. The main contender for power was an army led by fundamentalist Mohammed Shawky al-Istambouli, brother of Khalid al-Istambouli, an army lieutenant. Khalid and Ayman Zawahiri, both assets of the CIA, led the death squad that murdered Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in October 1981. This faction spun-off from a larger army, the Dawa and Sharia, the umbrella group for all Mujahedins fighting in the war against Soviet Russia, covertly sponsored by the U.S. French, British and Israelis. Al-Istambouli traveled to Peshawar, the Mujahedin base of operations, in 1983, and transfered funding from Iran to Afghanistan. Al-Istambouli was sentenced to death in absentia by an Egyptian court in December 1992 for plotting to overthrow Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's government and kill Egyptian leaders...

The charge that the Sheik operated with CIA sanction comes from a number of sources, including an anonymous government official who leaked that a CIA officer assigned as a consular official approved the Sheik's visa from the Sudan after the consulate approved it, according to the New York Times on July 14, 1993. Egyptian President Mubarak suggested that the visa had been issued to Rahman as a payoff for "services" rendered.

The Atlantic Monthly reported in 1996 that early off, "the sixty or so CIA and Special Forces officers based [in Afghanistan] considered [Rahman] a "valuable asset," according to one of them, and overlooked his anti-Western message and incitement to holy war because they wanted him to help unify the mujahideen groups..."

"The sheik has been a CIA agent since his days in Afghanistan," Mubarak told Egypt's al-Gomhuria newspaper. "He still earns a salary."

Researcher Paul Thompson has compiled a sourced timeline for the Internet that dispells the notion that Rahman was an independent operator:

Abdul-Rahman was heavily involved with the CIA and [Pakistan] ISI efforts to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan, and became famous traveling all over the world for five years recruiting new mujaheddin. [Atlantic Monthly, 5/96] He is infamous throughout the Arab world for his alleged role in the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar el-Sadat. Abdul-Rahman immediately begins setting up a terrorist network in the US. [Village Voice, 3/30/93] He is known to have befriended bin Laden while in Afghanistan, and bin Laden secretly pays Abdul-Rahman's US living expenses. [Atlantic Monthly, 5/96, ABC News, 8/16/02] Abdul-Rahman's ties to the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane in later 1990 is ignored. As one FBI agent says in 1993, he is hands-off. It was no accident that the sheik got a visa and that he's still in the country. He's here under the banner of national security, the State Department, the NSA, and the CIA. A very high-ranking Egyptian official says Abdul-Rahman continues to assist the CIA in recruiting new mujaheddin after moving to the US. This official says, 'We begged America not to coddle the sheikh.' Egyptian intelligence warns the US that Abdul-Rahman is planning new terrorist attacks, and on November 12, 1992, terrorists connected to him machine-gun a busload of Western tourists in Egypt. But still he lives freely in New York City. [Village Voice, 3/30/93] He is finally arrested in 1993 and convicted for assisting in the 1993 WTC bombing. [Atlantic Monthly 5/96]

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REFERENCES:

1) Anon., N.Y. Terror Trial Witness Tells What a Liar He Was, San Francisco Chronicle, Wednesday, March 8, 1995.

2) Transcript of Paul DeRienzo's interview with William Kunstler, Broadcast on WBAI in New York on August 3, 1993.

3) Tape transcript concerning Salem's expenses: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3c830e34de.htm

4) James S. Adam, Troubling Questions in Troubling Times, October 5, 2001. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/adam.htm

5) 'Proud terrorist' gets life for Trade Center bombing, CNN report, US News Story Page, January 8, 1998. http://www.cnn.com/US/9801/08/yousef.update/index.html

7) Robert J. Freidman, The CIA and the Sheikh, Village Voice, March 30, 1993.

8) Mary Ann Weaver, Blowback, The Atlantic Monthly, May 1996.

9) Paul Thompson, Complete 911 Timeline: Incompetence, bad luck, obstruction of justice, Project: Complete 911 Timeline, Open-Content project. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeli ne&theme=incompetence

99 posted on 04/04/2006 6:23:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.mipt.org/usvsalameh2cirapp081997.asp

THE COMPONENTS FOR THE BOMB CAME FROM ALLIED SIGNAL, INC. :

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT
August Term, 1997
(Argued: December 18 & 19, 1997 Decided: August 04, 1998 )
Docket Nos. 94-1312, -1313, -1314, -1315



UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Appellee,
v.
MOHAMMED A. SALAMEH, NIDAL AYYAD, MAHMOUD ABOUHALIMA,
also known as Mahmoud Abu Halima, AHMAD MOHAMMAD AJAJ,
also known as Khurram Khan,
Defendants-Appellants,
RAMZI AHMED YOUSEF, BILAL ALKAISI, also known as
Bilal Elqisi, ABDUL RAHMAN YASIN, also known as Aboud,
Defendants.

... Once in New York, Yousef assembled a team of trusted criminal associates, including Mohammed Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Mahmoud Abouhalima and Abdul Rahman Yasin. Together, the conspirators implemented the bombing plot that Ajaj and Yousef had hatched overseas. Ayyad and Salameh opened a joint bank account into which they deposited funds to finance the bombing plot. Some of that money was later used by Salameh to rent a storage shed in Jersey City, New Jersey, where the conspirators stored chemicals for making explosives. Yousef also drew on that account to pay for materials described in Ajaj's manuals as ingredients for bomb making.

The first target of the conspirators' plot was the World Trade Center. Ayyad used his position as an engineer at ALLIED SIGNAL, a large New Jersey chemical company, to order the necessary chemical ingredients for bomb making, and to order hydrogen tanks from ALG Welding Company that would enhance the bomb's destructive force. Abouhalima obtained "smokeless powder," which the conspirators used to make explosives. Smokeless powder, and all the other chemicals procured by the conspirators for the bomb, were stored in the shed rented by Salameh....


100 posted on 04/04/2006 6:27:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/investigative/2002/fancher-trials.asp

THE 1993 WTC BOMBERS & ALLIED SIGNAL

... A few days after arriving at JFK with Ajaj, Yousef made contact with Sheik Rahman's followers. He met up with two men who had trained at the rifle range on Long Island in 1989, Abouhalima and Salameh. [Ramzi] Yousef moved into a Jersey City apartment with Salameh.... Abdul Yasin, an American-born engineering student of Iraqi descent, and Nidal Ayyad, a Kuwaiti-born naturalized American citizen, who had studied chemical engineering and worked at ALLIED SIGNAL in Morristown, N.J. In addition to opening bank accounts with more than $16,000, the men began trying to order chemicals, with varying success. By early February, Yousef asked Eyad Ismoil, a childhood friend who lived in Dallas, to fly to New York to help, prosecutors claimed in the trial.


102 posted on 04/04/2006 6:29:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/mil-abuses.htm
Afghans have been considerably active in transnational terrorism.

http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/kashmir/1994/kashmir94-02.htm
Kashmir, where Islamist militants operate out of ISI training bases in Afghanistan

John Cooley, a journalist with decades of experience, specifically points to Afghan terrorism against both Muslims and Hindus in Kashmir. In Unholy Wars, Cooley states "As of September 1997, Indian troops [in Kashmir] had reported killing 302 mercenaries, including 118 Afghans and 106 Pakistanis. ...Some 80 foreign guerrillas, mainly Afghans and Pakistnis, had been taken prisoner." And Victory, a book celebrating the Reagan covert operations that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union, describes members of the Reagan administration greeting with delight the news of mujahideen terrorism in Uzbekistan before the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

In Charley Wilson's War, Crile's contradicts this assertions and facts that Afghanistan was involved with transnational terrorism. All these sources were published and widely available before Charley Wilson's War went to press. Crile relied entirely on narrow and selective interviews with an extremely small group of people, his toning down of Afghanistan was incredible.

Charley Wilson's War:

The CIA's policy of "credible deniability" exonerates them on charges of "blowback" and arming Islamic terrorism.

"The CIA had deeded to the Pakistan intelligence service, the ISI, the right to decide which mujahideen leaders would recieve the Agency's weapons..." [pg. 198]

"Unlike the CIA and the U.S. government, which operated with a strict taboo against any Americans crossing into Afghanistan..." [pg. 199]

"Over the long years of the Cold War, a kind of unwritten understanding had emerged between the superpowers about rules of engagement in proxy wars. The implicit understanding in Afghanistan was that the United States would not taunt the Soviets with an overt demonstration of involvement." [pg. 217]


http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=ja92albright

In the late 1970's, the CIA was in upheaval. The excesses, blunders and outright disasters of the 1960's and early 1970's in Greece, Chile, Vietnam and many other places had culminated in the United States' massive defeat in Vietnam. The Agency had presided over a nearly endless series of intelligence failures and was undergoing the only real shakeup in its history. The Shah of Iran was tottering on his Peacock Throne and nobody at Langley seemed to notice.

Iran was the responsibility of the CIA's Near East Division (Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.) But all attention was focussed on Afghanistan. Beginning with some disorders instigated by Shite radicals associated with Ayahtollah Khomeni in Iran, the United States

In a series of pointless provocations, the CIA was working hard to provoke unrest and rebellion against the Marxist government in Kabul. They succeeded in causing enough disturbance to spook the Soviet Union into invading Afghanistan on Christmas Day, 1979.

Before the invasion, the Soviets had a military presence in Afghanistan, but a limited one. The Soviets staged a massive invasion and occupation. Crile gives the impression that the Soviet invasion was some sort of master plan for the conquest of the entire region from Pakistan to Saudi Arabia. The U.S. had precipitated an Islamic rebellion in Iran and was backing other Islamic fundamentalists because they were "anti-communist." The Soviets were not going to have the madness spread to their bordering client state in Afghanistan where it might incite Islamic revolts inside the U.S.S.R.. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was an act of panic.

Several years earlier, Pakistan had embarked on the process of building the Islamic Bomb.

They were encouraged in this by the United States as part of the Nixon Doctrine of persuading client states like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, the Phillipines, Indonesia, Pakistan, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt to take on more of the regional security tasks during the U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam. This policy launched a campaign of conventional and nuclear weapons proliferation, abrogation of the Bretton Woods agreement (on stabilizing international exchange rates) and a fundamental realignment of foreign policy. Most Americans only remember the "Vietnamization" aspect of the Nixon Doctrine, but

One of the programs central to the Nixon Doctrine was a series of arms for oil deals with Iran, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia. Some of these spiralled out of control in the Lockheed, McDonnel / Douglas and Koreagate scandals. The deregulated financial policy opened the door for a new realm of "hot money" banks like Nugan Hand and the Pakistani Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI.) BCCI would quickly become the backbone of the Pakistani nuclear technology transfer network. After the collapse of BCCI, the same network would begin flowing in the opposite direction by marketing nuclear arms technology to Iran, Iraq, North Korea and Libya.

So the Pak were building a nuclear capability with the U.S. agreeably turning a blind eye.

The 1977 coup deposed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (the Prime Minister at the time of the Nixon Doctrine's implimentation) and paved the way for Zia Al Haq to become dictator. In 1979, Al Haq arranges the judical murder of Bhutto on corruption charges related to the McDonell / Douglas scandal, among other things. The U.S. is shocked, shocked, I say, to discover Pakistan is building a uranium enrichment plant. In a fury of feigned outrage against the excesses of the Zia dictatorship, the U.S. cuts off Pakistan's military aid at the same time the CIA is trying to start a rebellion in Afghanistan -- thereby provoking a Soviet invasion of Pakistan's neighbor.

Sound complicated? Crile never mentions any of these events as the prologue to the little morality play he's selling in Charlie Wilson's War. Instead, it's all godless commies trampling the freedom-loving Afghans as part of an evil plot to invade the Mideast oil regions (which happen to be on the other side of Iran from Afghanistan.)

The Socialite and the Dictator

Crile's Afghan fairy tale starts with an ultra-rightwing Houston socialite named Joanne Herring. By the late 1970's Herring had been recruited by the Pakistanis. As their honorary consul in Houston.

Pakistani president Zia ul Haq was desperate to get the arms embargo lifted and prevent further interference with the Pakistani nuclear program. To do this, it was necessary to obtain political influence in Washington, D.C.. Fortunately for the Islamic bomb, Pakistan had an agent, Joanne Herring, perfectly placed to recruit a dissolute and corrupt member of the House Military Appropriations Subcommittee, good ol' Charlie Wilson.

Herring had little difficulty selling the credulous Rep. Wilson on jihad as a means of killing communists. But killing communists wasn't the role Zia and the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had in mind for Wilson; it was just the bait. The real purpose of recruiting the high-living Texan was acquiring the atomic bomb.

And thus, Charlie Wilson's war became the means for swindling the U.S. government into not just allowing, but indirectly funding, the development of the nuclear weapons most likely to used by Islamic terrorists, Iran, North Korea and Libya to attack the United States.

Nuclear Jihad from Texas

The following passages illustrate this central focus of Rep. Wilson's relationship with the Pakistani Islamic bomb. They illustrate the limited and misleading discussion in the book regarding the centrality of the Islamic bomb to the relationship between Rep. Wilson and Pakistan:

"Wilsons importance to Zia and Pakistan went beyond the extra money. Every year the Appropriations subcommittee members fought a battle royal over charges that Pakistan was actively pursuing an Islamic bomb. And every year Wilson, sometimes single-handedly, beat back those accusations. The fact is, Pakistan was working on the bomb, as Wilson, the CIA and almost everyone else knew. Furthermore, it was not about to stop." [pg. 420. emphasis in original]

"The great unpredictable element in this entire mix, the unknown that threatened to unravel absolutely everything for Zia, was the matter of the bomb - or rather, the intense national effort then being mounted in Pakistan to build an Islamic bomb. If the American Congress were confronted with evidence that Pakistan was on the verge of having a bomb, there was no question it would trigger an immediate move to cut off all foreign aid.

"It was all quite unfair from Zia's point of view. No one in the Reagan administration had any illusions about Pakistan's bomb-building program. Even Zia's democratic predecessor, Zulfikar All Bhutto, had been working on the bomb. Nor would it have escaped any of the Reaganites that once Pakistan had a bomb, it would use American F-16s if it ever wanted to drop one on India.

"The dirty little secret of the Afghan war was that Zia had extracted a concession early on from Reagan: Pakistan would work with the CIA against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and in return the United States would not only provide massive aid but would agree to look the other way on the question of the bomb.

"Zia understood, however, that if he were ever caught red-handed, the White House could not protect him from the wrath of Congress. That was where Wilson, with his seat on the Appropriations subcommittee, came in. By now Zia knew how critical this committee was to Pakistan's fate. There had already been one close call in 1985, when a Pakistani agent had been caught in the United States trying to buy Kryton high-speed triggers, the switching devices used to fire nuclear weapons. ...Ironically, the CIA had helped to bring on the crisis; part of its job was to expose Zia's bomb-building efforts, and every station chief in Islamabad had given this a high priority." [pg. 463]

"...In July [1987], just after Congress had passed legislation authorizing a new aid package to Pakistan, a man widely believed to be Zia's agent, Arshad Pervez, was caught in Philadelphia trying to buy twenty-five tons of a specialty steel alloy vital to the building of a nuclear bomb.



"It was dramatically worse than the Kryton-trigger affair of 1985. This time there was a Solarz amendment on the books that would force the White House to stop all aid. There was no realistic way to avoid it: Congress was going to cut Zia off…



"…Wilson would later call his subsequent efforts to save Zia's military aid, 'my greatest achievement in Congress.' Perhaps he remembers it this way because he is at heart a political artist and can assess the value of an accomplishment by the difficulty of the task. Everything else he had accomplished had been carried out in the shadows and behind closed doors. Here he had to operate publicly against a coalition of virtuous liberals. He had the thankless task to trying to defend the right of a Muslim dictator to break U.S. law in order to build all Islamic bomb while still qualifying for massive U.S. foreign aid. And he had to do it in the name of protecting a massive CIA killing-war.



"On the face of it, this was a lost cause. U.S. policy was firmly comitted to nuclear nonproliferation. A law had clearly been violated. The president had no choice but to trigger the Solarz amendment and cut off Zia's aid. Even if Reagan claimed a national security waiver, Congress was now committed to enforcing its own law.



"But Wilson would end up forcing his colleagues to abandon their pretense of ethical deliberation. For this lone issue, he would strip Congress down to a body that operates solely on the basis of power and horse trading. Here, he would call in every chit and, to the horror of his liberal friends, win." [pgs 477-8]

But in these passages, Crile makes it very clear that the goal of pursuing the CIA's proxy war in Afghanistan and killing Russian soldiers trumped the national security interests of the United States in preventing nuclear proliferation. Overall, the Islamic bomb's role in Crile's drama is one of misdirection and ultimately whitewash. The cover story was the ostensible belief the United States would be able to control Pakistan's atomic program.

That delusion was publicly shattered in recent months when the Pakistani nuclear black market program to arm Iran, Libya and North Korea was finally exposed. The collaboration between Pakistan and the other countries had long been suspected.

Crile never mentions the repeated exposure of Pakistan's covert nuclear sales to other countries during the period covered in Charlie Wilson's War. Even the most cursory research would have uncovered it.

The question that must be addressed is Crile's misrepresentation of the history of the Islamic bomb. It can't be claimed that Crile was unable to discover these facts, since the book was written long after the disclosures of Pakistan's nuclear black market program. But the misrepresentation is perfectly in accord with the interests of Crile's sources and main characters in the book.


105 posted on 04/04/2006 6:54:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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BTTT


108 posted on 04/04/2006 7:03:43 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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I was close to downtown OKC when the bomb went off.

Personally I have never bought in to the fraud that this was just a couple of disgruntled guys getting revenge on the feds.

Way to many eye witnesses observed things that were never checked out or were seemingly conveniently covered up.

OKC has a large Hamas population.

These are militants that have assimilated into the general population.

Members of the religion of piece.
124 posted on 04/04/2006 7:53:53 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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Placemark


148 posted on 04/05/2006 8:08:07 AM PDT by Peach
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1609686/posts
JAYNA DAVIS on OKC: New email story from her; see her 8-minute video report with witnesses


150 posted on 04/05/2006 11:35:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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