Posted on 04/03/2006 8:13:43 AM PDT by doug from upland
ROHRBACHER DEMANDING NEW PROBE OF OKC
Jayna Davis and I had an interesting phone conversation this morning. She is still waiting for a plane ticket to D.C. and an invitation to testify about the OKC bombing. Neither has been forthcoming.
Is it good news that Rep. Dana Rohrbacher (R-CA) is demanding a new probe of the OKC bombing? Maybe. But is it going to really get to the truth about the Middle Eastern connection to OKC? Maybe not.
Last year, David Schippers, famous for prosecuting both the Chicago mob and William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, flew to OKC to meet Jayna and her witnesses. Dave spent 12 hours grilling 14 of them on camera.
When he was finished, he told Jayna that, with just three of them, he would get a federal indictment of Hussain al-Hussaini in one day. FBI agent Dan Vogel told her he could do the same -- with one of her witnesses. That is how credible they were.
So why, Congressman Rohrbacher, did you tell Jayna that the committee has no budget to fly her to Washington, D.C.? What is the problem? Are we finally going to get the truth or is this grandstanding?
Andreas Carl Strassmeier has six witnesses saying that he was building a fence at the time of the bombing. He couldn't have been with McVeigh. Of 1100 fingerprints tied to the crime scene, none are Strassmeier's. Not one of 30,000 witnesses ties Strassmeier to the crime.
Here is a question for you, Congressman. Well, actually seven questions. Ten months ago, Jayna gave these to you in writing and still is waiting for the answers.
1. Why has the Justice Department/FBI not issued an official on-the-record statement exonerating Hussain Al-Hussaini of complicity in the Oklahoma City bombing? Has the DOJ provided Congress with Hussain Al-Hussainis whereabouts for the critical hours of the morning of April 19, 1995?
2. Why did the FBI never question Hussain Al-Hussaini about the bombing?
3. Why did the FBI previously suspect Al-Hussainis employer of ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization?
4. Why were the original motel registration logs where witnesses testified McVeigh checked in with Al-Hussainis Iraqi cohort the evening of April 18, 1995, never returned to the establishments owner?
5. Whatever happened to the brown Chevrolet pickup that was seen carrying Middle Eastern suspects from the bomb site? The Oklahoma City police found fingerprints inside the recovered truck. Why were these prints not compared to the immigration files of the three Middle Eastern nationals whom witnesses observed in that getaway vehicle before, during, and after the bombing?
6. Why did the Bureau rebuff my efforts to surrender the witness statements and supporting evidence in September 1997? Why did the FBI withhold from the defense teams the twenty-two witness affidavits that I delivered to FBI Special Agent Dan Vogel in January 1999?
7. Why were the prior warnings issued by the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare that predicted an Islamic attack in the heart of the U.S. disregarded as an indicator of foreign participation?
Congressman Rohrbacher needs to bring Jayna and Schippers to meet with the committee in closed session. The committee needs to see the on camera interviews of 14 eye witnesses. It needs to be done in closed session to protect the witnesses. They stepped forward as patriots facing great risk.
The real story of OKC should have been told long ago. Let's finally get it told now. Bill Clinton did not want to deal with Middle East terror on our soil. He wanted this to be domestic terror. That is what he got. Who are those deep inside the FBI who are responsible for continuing the coverup?
The truth about OKC will forever end any remaining legacy of the impeached William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. Had he dealt with OKC, 9-11 could have been prevented. He ignored Middle East terror, created the vast right wing conspiracy, and his Kool-Aid drinkers dug in their heels. He would be held accountable for nothing. They stood with him no matter what because they had to fight the dreaded right wing. That is how Clinton divided America as never before.
If anyone would like to join me in calling the congressman, he is at (202) 225-2415.
I personally would like to believe that ME terrorists were involved in OKC.
I've asked many of the proponents of Jayna on here to just give me a short summary of what they think happened.** All they do is snort and say "read the 10,000 links to the 400 websites, fool!"
So, as you seem to be skeptical, can you summarize what "THEIR" theories are?
** My question in #183.
http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/09/before-able-danger-and-mohamed-atta.html
Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Before Able Danger and Mohamed Atta, There Was Murrah Building Bombing and Hussain Al-Hussaini; Journalist Uncovers OKC Links to 9/11
Captain Ed notes the Pentagon's decision yesterday to bar several military officials and intelligence analysts from testifying today before a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing investigating whether the Able Danger program identified Mohamed Atta months before the 9/11 attacks.
The Pentagon's decision to keep the witnesses silent "only demonstrates that the program found something that the Pentagon still wants hidden," according to the Captain. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter is less unconcerned about the Pentagon's action, saying his panel has already established the credibility of other witnesses who will testify at the hearing.
Before anybody gets too excited about what Specter's panel may uncover, it should be known that this is not the first time Specter has looked into the strange actions of federal officials seemingly bent on burying the truth about terrorist acts carried out on American soil, nor is the Pentagon's strange attitude towards Able Danger the first time a federal department has sought to withhold critical facts about the Islamofascists who have been killing Americans here and abroad at every opportunity for more than a decade.
Ten years ago, the FBI was given powerful evidence of Iraq's involvement with Timothy McVeigh in the bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City that killed , but the federal law enforcement agency abruptly stopped its investigation.
Oklahoma City investigative reporter Jayna Davis, however, didn't stop. She doggedly developed and pursued a host of leads that make it clear McVeigh was only one cog in a cell of Iraqi terrorists that included Hussain Al-Hussaini who is the main subject of her book, "The Third Terrorist."
I recently asked Davis to provide Tapscott's Copy Desk with a summary of the profoundly disturbing evidence she found that suggests direct links between the plotters who blew up the Murrah Building in 1995 and those who hijacked four commercial airliners in 2001 and crashed them into the Twin Towers in New York City, the Pentagon and a field near Pittsburgh.
Perhaps today Specter will begin demanding answers from officials at the Pentagon and the FBI about why they have refused to provide the American people with answers to the many haunting questions about Iraqi complicity in the terrorist murders of thousands of our fellow citizens in Oklahoma, New York, Pennsyvania and Virginia.
Here's Jayna Davis:
"My tumultuous journey began ten years ago amidst widespread death and destruction on a scale Americans had never before seen. As an investigative reporter for the NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City, KFOR-TV, I was among the first correspondents on the scene of the bombing of the Alfred. P. Murrah Building.
"The concussive wave of fury had blown out windows in every office building and high-rise within my immediate range of sight and beyond. My eyes drank in the staggering devastation and the surreal panorama of human slaughter, but my mind could not comprehend the possibility of terrorism. Not in my hometown.
"On April 20, 1995, my news director assigned me to cover the international manhunt for suspects. During the first 48 hours, all eyes were trained exclusively on the Middle East. Pundits and terrorism experts, including retired officials from the CIA and FBI, opined that the destruction to the federal complex shared striking parallels with the 1993 World Trade Center attack and the modus operandi of Middle Eastern truck bombings.
"As a reporter from a Midwestern television station, I obviously did not have access to sources inside the intelligence corridors of the Washington beltway. Therefore, I did what any enterprising journalist would do - monitor the newsroom telephones, hoping to develop eyewitness testimony near the crime scene.
"I soon found myself swimming in a sea of conspiracy theories espoused by people seeking their proverbial 15 minutes of fame. That is, until, one ground-breaking tip led me directly to the doorstep of what several esteemed intelligence experts, including the former Director of the CIA Jim Woolsey, later determined to be a Middle Eastern terrorist cell living and operating in the heart of Oklahoma City.
"Outside a dilapidated business office located 30 blocks north of the burned-out Murrah Building, under the very nose of FBI investigators, I began my quest to expose the greatest law enforcement failure of the 20th century, a legal breakdown that I firmly believe might have led, in part, to the terrorism holocaust of the young 21st century.
"'The Third Terrorist: The Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing' is the culmination of nearly a decade of exhaustive research. Throughout the course of my investigation, I interviewed 80 potential witnesses, 22 of whom I deemed credible because their testimonies could be independently corroborated, and more importantly, their stories did not conflict with the government's case against McVeigh and Nichols.
"In detailed affidavits, these witnesses confidently identified eight specific Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom were former Iraqi soldiers, colluding with the Oklahoma City bombers, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.
"All of these suspects immigrated to the United States following the Persian Gulf War, ostensibly seeking political asylum from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. However, my investigation revealed they were, in fact, false defectors - not outspoken dissidents as they had claimed.
"This cadre of Iraqi servicemen moved to Oklahoma City in the fall of 1994 and began performing handiwork for a property management company that was owned and operated by a Palestinian expatriate.
The affluent real estate mogul, who operated under eight known aliases, funded his vast, multi-million dollar housing empire from monies contributed by siblings living in Baghdad, Jerusalem, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, and Amman, Jordan.
"In the early 1990s, the Palestinian property owner pleaded guilty to federal insurance fraud and served time in the penitentiary. Court records revealed that the FBI once suspected the ex-convict of having ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
"Six months prior to the bombing, the Palestinian felon hired a group of self-professed 'defectors' from the Iraqi army to do maintenance work on his low-income rental houses. On April 19, several witnesses watched in stunned amazement as their Middle Eastern co-workers expressed prideful excitement upon hearing the first radio broadcasts that Islamic extremists had claimed responsibility for the attack on the Murrah Building. The men cheered deliriously, exuberantly pledging their allegiance to the now deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, vowing they would 'die for Saddam.'
"Nearly two dozen Oklahomans have signed sworn affidavits in which they accuse these ardent Saddam supporters and ex-enemy combatants of aiding and abetting McVeigh and Nichols during critical stages of the bombing plot.
"The most incriminating testimony centered around one man - Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini. Al-Hussaini not only fit the FBI's physical description in the official arrest warrant for John Doe 2, but according to veteran law enforcement officials, was a dead ringer for the government's profile sketch of the elusive suspect.
"Witnesses identified this Iraqi immigrant socializing with McVeigh at an Oklahoma City nightclub prior to the bombing. An Oklahoma City gas station attendant also fingered Al-Hussaini as the customer who paid one hundred dollars cash to fill up a large Ryder truck with diesel fuel (the key chemical component used in Ryder truck bomb) on eve of the bombing - April 18, 1995.
"The next morning, a maintenance man working at the motel located adjacent to the service station observed what was very likely the same Ryder truck emanating an odorous stench of diesel, yet according to the witness, the gas cap bore a warning sticker which read: 'Unleaded Fuel Only.'
"Two downtown joggers named the Iraqi soldier as the dark-haired, olive-skinned male they observed timing his run at a breathless pace from the Murrah Building one block east shortly before daybreak on April 19.
"Moreover, several Oklahoma City residents claimed to have seen Al-Hussaini climbing into the cab of a Ryder truck that reeked of diesel fuel at a local motel an hour before the explosion. The witnesses placed Timothy McVeigh behind the wheel of that moving van as it pulled off the lot and headed toward downtown.
"Furthermore, the Iraqi soldier was positively identified sitting in the passenger seat of the Ryder truck a few blocks north of the Murrah Building at 8:30 a.m., stepping out of that truck at ground zero directly in front of the ill-fated federal complex moments before the massive fertilizer/fuel oil bomb detonated, and speeding away from downtown in the driver's seat of a brown Chevrolet pickup pursued by the FBI in an official teletype that targeted foreign suspects seen fleeing the bomb site.
"Five witnesses independently fingered Al-Hussaini and several of his Middle Eastern associates as frequent visitors at an Oklahoma City motel in the months, weeks, days, and hours leading up to 9:02 a.m. on April 19. On numerous occasions the Arab subjects were seen in the company of Timothy McVeigh, and during a few rare instances, associating with Terry Nichols.
"More significantly, detailed interviews with key witnesses proved conclusively that the man whom witnesses named as the nefarious 'third terrorist' had no provable alibi for the critical hours of April 19.
"Colonel Patrick Lang, a Middle East expert who formerly served as the chief of human intelligence for the Defense Intelligence Agency, determined that the Iraqi soldier's military tattoo and immigration file indicated that he was likely a trusted member of Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard before being recruited into the elite Unit 999 of the Estikhabarat, more commonly known as the Iraqi Military Intelligence Service.
"Before the 2003 Iraq War, Unit 999 was headquartered in Salman Pak, southeast of Baghdad, and was tasked with clandestine operations at home and overseas. Several defense and intelligence analysts, with whom I consulted, concurred with Colonel Lang's conclusions.
"Soon after that fateful day in 1995, Al-Hussaini moved to Massachusetts and sought employment at the Boston Logan International Airport. In November 1997, four years before two planes were hijacked from that very airport on a deadly trek to incinerate the World Trade Center, the Iraqi national began suffering panic attacks about his airport job and sought psychiatric hospitalization. When his therapist asked why he was experiencing sudden and intense trepidation about working at Boston Logan, the patient replied, 'If something happens there, I will be a suspect.'
"I later learned that during this same time frame, Al-Hussaini was residing with two former Iraqi Gulf War veterans who provided food-catering services to the commercial airlines at the Boston airport. In the wake of the suicide hijackings of 2001, law enforcement speculated that food services workers might have planted box cutters aboard the doomed flights.
"Hussain Al-Hussaini's uncanny foreknowledge of a possible dire event slated to take place at Boston Logan Airport, the point of origin for Al-Qaeda's murderous rampage of 2001, just grazes the surface of the disturbing nexus I have uncovered between 4-19 and 9-11. Was the Oklahoma bombing the silver bullet that could have prevented Black Tuesday?
"To this day, the Justice Department has refused my requests to officially clear the Iraqi soldier whom multiple witnesses identified as the mysterious third terrorist who delivered the weapon of mass destruction to the intersection of 5th and Harvey Streets on that dreadful spring morning.
"Yet the Bureau did not hesitate to exonerate several innocent men who were named in the media as having been collared and questioned simply because they bore a slight resemblance to the sketch of John Doe 2.
"My meticulous research into Hussain Al-Hussaini's whereabouts for the morning of April 19 roundly discredits his publicly espoused alibi. Why the FBI has never questioned Hussain Al-Hussaini or his Middle Eastern cohorts, I am at a loss to explain. That question should be posed to the former administration and the handful of officials who were charged with investigating and prosecuting the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building.
"The Oklahoma City bombing, if orchestrated by an Iraqi/Al-Qaeda hit squad, certainly provides a salient rationale for war. How many more Americans would have been marked for death had the United States military not invaded Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein, a bloodthirsty broker of terror?
"The fallen heroes of Operation Iraqi Freedom did not die in vain to end the proliferation of phantom weapons of mass destruction, but died to prevent another horrifying replay of April 19 and September 11."
UPDATE:
Dr.Sanity live-blogged the Able Danger hearing. Go here for her posts, which are doubly important in view of the lack of broadcast news coverage of the hearing. There is also a link to Rep. Curt Weldon's testimony. QT Monster's Place is tracking significant Able Danger posts from the MSM and blogosphere.
UPDATE II:
JustOneMinute has an excellent roundup of the coverage. NRO's The Buzz notes what may be the most significant fact about this hearing - who wasn't there, which is to say Specter was the only GOPer in attendance and Biden the lone Democrat, with the latter sticking around just long enough to ask one question and get some camera time.
Simple. Grand juries can only act on the information presented them! No evidence presented = no other culprits!
FYI, 2Jedismon has the Oklahoma ping list.
There's an old FR thread called "Batting A Thousand" that discussed fedgov prior knowledge of WTC'93 and as a result of a number of FBI mis-steps that event occurred which killed several people......just curious why this info is never factored into the picture when discussing OKC and who knew what, when and where?
I don't know. I am on absolute information overload with all the things on which I am working.
I read that and thanks for providing it, kabar. I hope you read the link I provided that Lance DID believe in the OKC/Iraq connection.
Where did you get that David Schippers is ignoring this? He's endorsed Jayna's book 100% and done what is in his power to get Congress to pay attention.
Not to be confrontational, but it's hard to believe you've read the links and think Schippers isn't onboard.
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Yeah...riiiiight! Nice to know that our "public servants" are not arrogant, at all... /sarc
(FReepmail forthcoming...)
Freeper StillProud2BeFree gave me permission to post this on her behalf: (Nancie - this is the document you said that Jayna needed help with):
I'm posting this on my website. Thank you for pointing this one out to me.
Laura (www.lauramansfield.com)
Does an obscure document, hidden among the hundreds of documents released recently from Iraq and Afghanistan, provide evidence linking Al Qaeda operative Ramzi Yousef to the Oklahoma City attack on the Murrah Building?
The Arabic-language handwritten document, numbered AFGP-2002-801138, and available at http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq/AFGP-2002-801138-Orig.pdf, contains a series of pages that were written in what appears to be some sort of daily planner.
The daily planner appears to be a standard daily calendar/agenda book, containing a daily calendar for the year 2000. The dates within the calendar are in English, and have the Islamic dates for each day as well.
The planner appears to be one sold commercially in Pakistan. The early pages of the planner are printed in English, and contain information that would be helpful to non-Urdu speaking persons in Pakistan, including emergency telephone numbers in Karachi, air travel times from Pakistan, and various other reference guides. Its interesting to note that the handwriting in the document is all in Arabic, despite the planners Pakistani provenance.
A note at the beginning of the document states that the document was obtained from a Boot Camp Class of 2000 in Afghanistan. The term Boot Camp most likely refers to one of the Al Qaeda training camps operating in Afghanistan in that time period. Dated comments within the document confirm that the document was most likely written in the year 2000. Other notes indicate that the document is very likely a compilation of questions being prepared for use by Osama Bin Laden in the filming of a new videotape.
The document confirms the links between Al Qaeda and Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, convicted in the US for his role in terrorism planning in New York City, and Ramzi Yousef, convicted Al Qaeda operative, calling them brothers (see page 122).
In respect to our Brothers who are imprisoned in the United States and other infidel countries, are there attempts or hope to release them such as sheikh Omar Abd Al-Rahman, Ramzi Yousef and others?
And in a series of questions, apparently forming a set from which Bin Laden can select questions to discuss in a video tape, goes on to implicate Yousef (and indirectly implicate Al Qaeda) in the April 1995 attack on Oklahoma City (see page 192).
We hear about the Oklahoma explosion and that it is the largest explosion in America. Is it the one planned by Ramzi Yousef or not? (Note: This question was circled and marked with two (X) marks.
The document goes on to pose other questions to Bin Laden with regards to the Americans.
One particularly disturbing question discusses rumors of nuclear weapons and Iraq, implying that Iraq was already in possession of nuclear missiles in the summer of 2000. Its interesting to note the repeated references to Iraq even though the document was found in Afghanistan, but isnt surprising given the fact that many of the mujahideen were actually men from the Arab countries, including Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. (See page 178):
An Iraqi soldier said, America placed missiles with nuclear heads capability in Kuwait aimed on Russia and that what he saw with his own eyes. When Saddam occupied Kuwait he took these missiles along with its transporters and is still in Iraq. The United States is still looking for these missiles but could not find them because Saddam succeeded in hiding it. Is this claim true, and what do you think of it?
Many of the questions are quite ominous, and show that rumors of some sort of large scale attack against the United States was being planned in the summer of 2000.
What is the news about the battalions you are preparing? Do we have a role to play in it or not? We asked our instructors but no one gave an answer in this matter?
Why is there a delay in executing the martyrdom operations against the Americans?
We heard a lot about the (BATTALION) that will be dispatched from Afghanistan, are there news about it, and its destination?
Dear Sheikh, we pledged the legend to you to work and join Jihad movement, we will not let down, we are the soldiers of God. Please explain to us the importance of martyrdom operations against the American infidels?
One question is particularly disturbing:
What are the most famous and important American corporations that handle American interests and where is it located?
Other questions are more indirect implying that the US of international troublemaking.
Is it in the American interest to stir trouble in Iran? I read in a study that the United States created a Shiite state in case an eastern and a western Sunnis states clash or not with this Shiite state. The study concluded that Khumeini was delivered to Tahran during the revolution by an American combat aircraft?
As more of these documents are released and examined, it is very likely that we will find not only a wide range of smoking gun evidence regarding earlier terror attacks, but we will likely gain insight into the minds of Al Qaeda. Hopefully we will be able to translate this insight into prevention of future terror attacks.
Note: Special thanks to Freeper Peach for pointing out this document to me.
Thanks, Nancie. Your level of detail on this is astounding.
Dave Schippers spent 12 hours last year grilling 14 or Jayna's witnesses on film.
Thanks for that info, Don. I'll ping him now.
Second ping
Yup. The number of people who have "vetted" Jayna's work is impressive.
I wrote my Congressman about this laying out many of the unanswered questions concerning the OKC bombing. That there is a ME and Iraqi connection here cannot be denied. He never even replied to my inquiry. There is a wall of silence about it that to me is inexplicable. We know the press will do everything it can to keep the Clinton (may doo-doo be upon them) name from being besmerched. But my congressman is a Republican and we have a Republican administration. I don't get it.
I don't get it either. Never have understood it. The only thing I can figure is that Iraqi Republican Guards were involved, one in particular named Al Hussaini (sp?). The Iraqi's relocated here after the Gulf War in an agreement with the George Herbert Bush administration. The deal was that they'd stand down during the war in exchange for being permitted to relocate. (I'm going on memory here and read the book a few years ago)
About 6,000 former Iraqi Republican Guardsmen moved to the US after '91. If it was proved (and I think it easily could be proved) that an Iraqi Republican Guard helped plan and execute the OKC blast that killed so many children, it would ruin the GHB legacy forever. So much as GWB protects Clinton, I think he is protecting his father as well. They all protect each other.
None of us get Bush protecting Clinton.
You could be right about that assessment.
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Good grief! Do you always deal in circular logic?
The "underlying plot of OKC is not crystal clear to begin with", because there has been a complex -- and largely successful -- coverup.
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