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1 posted on 04/03/2006 6:27:38 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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IN WHICH IT IS EXPLAINED THAT THE BIGGEST LATINO ORGANIZATION DREADS BECOMING AMERICAN [Michael Ledeen]

The Richmond Times-Dispatch, in a thoughtful editorial yesterday, called attention to the email sent out by La Raza, the biggest Latino organization in the United States, first mentioned by The Corner last Thursday:

The e-mail refers to congressional legislation that would, among other things, (a) provide grants to immigrants taking English classes, (b) permit those who gain English proficiency to apply for citizenship one year early, and (c) provide grants to groups offering instruction in U.S. civics and American history. These ideas hardly seem provocative; learning English and American civics used to be something immigrants did enthusiastically. The e-mail about the bill, however, warns that "while it doesn't overtly mention assimilation, it is very strong on the patriotism and traditional American values language in a way which is potentially dangerous to our communities."

(More on the memo here.)

It sounds like La Raza has proclaimed itself un-American, don't you think? They don't want their people to assimilate, and they don't seem to like "patriotism" or "traditional American values."

Somebody might mention this to President Bush...


2 posted on 04/03/2006 6:33:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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Our masters will shove something down our throats this week. IMHO


3 posted on 04/03/2006 6:36:25 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Still, just more of the same. Cure the symptom, rather than the cause.


4 posted on 04/03/2006 6:38:27 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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ping


5 posted on 04/03/2006 6:39:40 AM PDT by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA))))
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In short, they aren’t playing by the rules that our families played by when they immigrated to this country. And to ordinary Americans this behavior is deeply – very deeply – offensive. We see it unfolding every day in our communities, and we don’t like it. This is what none of our politicians either understands, or dares to say aloud. Instead, they blather on – and on – about “amnesty” and “border security” without ever coming to grips with what is so visible, and so offensive, to so many of us – namely, all these foreigners among us who aren’t behaving like immigrants.

Thank you, Mr. Meyer. That sums it all up beautifully.

6 posted on 04/03/2006 6:42:20 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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They have come here solely for jobs, which isn’t the same thing at all. (And many of them have come here illegally.)

That doesn't adequately describe the anti-Americanism of this group.

8 posted on 04/03/2006 6:48:22 AM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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Bump! Brillant article, best I'm read in a long long time.


10 posted on 04/03/2006 6:52:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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This is what I've been trying to get across the past couple of weeks. There is a BIG difference between immigrants and illegal aliens.


12 posted on 04/03/2006 6:54:01 AM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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IMO, First we need to weed out the troublemakers, (Read the gangbangers, thieves, burglars, strong arm artists, drug dealers, etc).
To do this, we take a set of fingerprints from each person applying for "guest worker" status. We run those through every database we have access to, including Interpol. Get a hit for a serious offense - BAM, you're outta here.

Secondly, they need to have a job waiting when they apply. If a business owner is so impressed by their work ethic that the business owner will guarantee a job waiting at the end of the weed out process - OK, you got your "guest worker" card.
If you haven't got a guarantee from a business owner of a job - too bad, you better find one fast.

You have to make the "guest worker" card as foolproof as possible so that the illegals that don't want to go through the process can't just copy it on a xerox and change the name.

After a time frame to be determined, and advertised, if you can't show some form of ID, you are detained. If no one can come up with some type of proof that you're an American citizen, or a certified "guest worker" - You're outta here.
I don't care to where. Drop them at the 12 mile international limit and let them swim, send them back to a country of origin, if one can be identified, or just send them to the work camp in Tennessee where they are parcelled out to the crews that pick up garbage. Three hots and a cot, that's it.

Of course all this depends on our vaunted leaders enforcing laws and securing the southern border.

13 posted on 04/03/2006 6:54:30 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Good article, however I disagree with one notion - the distinction that there is 'immigrant work' and 'non immigrant work.' All these jobs have been done by Americans. These are 'entry level' jobs which have typically been done by the young. Immigrants are often 'young' in the country if they arrive with few job or language skills. There is no shame starting at the beginning even if one arrives here beyond their beginning years but I certainly wouldn't say they only do 'immigrant' jobs.


15 posted on 04/03/2006 6:57:54 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Not afraid to perform my own labor, pay more for food, pay less in taxes, or vote for a third party.)
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bttd.......back to the desert.......


16 posted on 04/03/2006 6:59:47 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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"Herbert E. Meyer served during the Reagan Administration as Special Assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence and Vice Chairman of the CIA’s National Intelligence Council. His DVD on The Siege of Western Civilization has become an international best-seller."

If this is what is supposed to have been "astute intelligence analysis", no wonder the CIA is in severe trouble. The problem is ILLEGAL immigrants, which are of all nationalities and races. Admittedly, Mexican Hispanics are probably the single LARGEST group--but they should ALL be deported forthwith.

This is really a "two-factor problem":

Legal immigrant-----welcome to the USA

Illegal immigrant---frogmarch onto plane (or bus) back home.

17 posted on 04/03/2006 7:11:27 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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I know why there are so many illegals now, because we no longer have a draft. Start registering and inducting those suckers and they will slink home real quick.
21 posted on 04/03/2006 7:35:58 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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During the past two decades our national birth rate has dropped to just below the 2.1 births-per-woman replacement rate.

Another elephant in the room. I believe the main reason people do not have as many kids anymore is economics, pure and simple. Too many taxes, wages stagnant, etc. When women used to have more children a family could make it on one income. I can't remember the last time I saw a family where the woman didn't work too. If staying home and raising a family was still an option for a woman, families would have more children.


23 posted on 04/03/2006 7:39:55 AM PDT by sheana
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And add to all this the fact that we keep
hearing: Politicians are afraid of
losing a large portion of their base
if they come down too hard on illegals.

In one mindset jump, they would have us
ASSUME that those 12 million (it was
11 million a week ago)are about to
step up to the polls! And I don't
believe for one moment that EVERY
Latino/American will be emotionally
torn or upset about keeping out
illegals from south of the border
when THEY themselves came across
with valid papers. The citizens
of TX, CA, AZ, and NM, and more
recently UT have realized just
how expensive this immigration
mess has become what with all
the educational and medical
expenses these people receive gratis.

The Congress is a mess, most of them
thinking of padding their own polls
on the issue. That Jerk Durbin (Il, D)
keeps insisting we need laws to protect
the talented, mensa-rated children of
undocumented Latinos. He avoids mentioning
the illiterate Mexican, gun-toting teens
who join gangs and kill anyone caught in
their line of fire on the Chicago streets!
Durbin names ONE genius kid but avoids the
hundreds whose names appear daily on the
police blotters.


26 posted on 04/03/2006 7:51:47 AM PDT by Grendel9 (u ()
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PING


34 posted on 04/03/2006 8:46:10 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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Ping!

Simply put, the debate in Washington isn’t about “immigration” at all – and that’s the problem.

37 posted on 04/03/2006 12:26:05 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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42 posted on 04/03/2006 3:27:06 PM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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Great commentary, thanks for posting.


44 posted on 04/04/2006 7:11:49 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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