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IKE did it. So can Bush!
1 posted on 04/02/2006 10:30:43 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
Just think of the improved quality of life and the availability of space in our schools and prisons; jobs there for the poorest Americans and an end to the pressures on our public health care system and social services. What's not to like. I submit the cost of deporting illegal aliens, if we got serious about doing it, would be far cheaper than keeping this country open as the world's HMO/welfare department.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

2 posted on 04/02/2006 10:34:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kellynla

The question shouldn;t be

What Would It Cost to Deport Illegal Aliens?


The question should be

What is the Cost if we Don't Deport Illegal Aliens?


3 posted on 04/02/2006 10:35:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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If the total cost were $100 billion dollars, we'd recoup the fees in less than five years, perhaps as little as eighteen months to two years.

Deport. We kicked our farmers off their farms. Illegals are no better than the U.S. farmer.


5 posted on 04/02/2006 10:36:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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It would cost nothing, They would self deport if the government/USPS/Banks were not in the money transfer business.
If they could not bank here they could not live here.
The IRS could find them all if the powers that be wanted to. Lord help you if you were a US Citizen who didnt pay taxes.


6 posted on 04/02/2006 10:36:20 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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They'd deport themselves if they couldn't find work. .....and they couldn't find work if we had the guts to heavily fine employers who hire them and cut off their welfare/freebies.
7 posted on 04/02/2006 10:36:49 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Imagine that you came home tomorrow and found a stranger living in your home. Would you pay $148 to have him removed

Ammo doesn't cost that much.
8 posted on 04/02/2006 10:37:04 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: kellynla

If they fine employers enough, nothing!

Eliminate welfare, hit the employers of illegals hard and there won't be enough jobs for the lower end of the work force.


9 posted on 04/02/2006 10:38:35 PM PDT by dalereed
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Imagine that you came home tomorrow and found a stranger living in your home. Would you pay $148 to have him removed, or would you instead just legally adopt him and give him the run of the place to save the $148?

Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
Then imagine you came home the next day and found another stranger in your home....
10 posted on 04/02/2006 10:39:42 PM PDT by stylin19a (I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
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To: kellynla

Tell Waffling RINO's : No Amnesty!
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13155

Wrong Way Whino's (RINO's)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607789/posts?page=475#475


13 posted on 04/02/2006 10:43:52 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (How could an illegal be a "guest" of anything? What part of criminal don't RINO's understand?)
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Anyone watch the Big Story Weekend with Jam min Jamie Colby.

This was really slanted for an amnesty program.

She also had on that CNN reject Bill Press as a pro for amnesty.

Made me sick to watch the program and listen to her airhead questions.

All slanted to make the illegals look good.
16 posted on 04/02/2006 10:45:00 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."


17 posted on 04/02/2006 10:47:11 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Our leaders talk of allowing all illegal aliens to stay. As if that weren't bad enough, they want guest-worker permits on top of that. Yep, you guessed it, according to them we don't have enough Mexican citizens living in the United States already.

10, 20, 30 million, whatever the actual figure is for illegal aliens in our nation today, it's not enough. Millions more must be allowed to enter.

Listen to Bush. Paraphrased: "If we had better laws regulating those who want to come here and hold down jobs U.S. Citizens won't do, there would be no illegal immigration."

Think about this. Best estimates reveal that between three and five million illegal immigrants come across our border every year now. In order to alleviate this, we would have to allow work permits to between three and five million people per year. In five years, we'd let in another fifteen to twenty-five million.

Now think about this. If it were as easy as filling out a form to come here, would between three and five million be the max? No, if folks would venture to cross the desert under extreme peril, they're mightily driven to come. If the method were easier, the actual numbers would be more like seven to ten million per year. In ten years that would amount to 70 to 100 million. No, Mexico would NOT be the only nation. We would be swamped!

Now, can anyone else see how our nation could almost overnight become 60% Mexican or at the very least 60 to 70% Central and South American?

Then you have to count the immediate family members that would be allowed to come over once their ankor 'guest-worker' was established.

Our leaders are talking glibly about the complete swamping of our nation in ten to twenty years. We could see as much as 100 to 200 million more people in our nation.

Who in their right mind would sign on to this. Whatever happened to calls for reasonable growth in order to save this planet? Boy has their tune changed.

All this doesn't even take into consideration the inevitable children that would be born to these tens to hundreds of million people.


18 posted on 04/02/2006 10:54:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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Given the cost to taxpayers to support illegal aliens, it would be money in the bank to deport them. Everyone one kicked out of the country represents an ongoing savings of taxpayer funded service expenses. I suspect it would represent a cash flow positive process. The program to deport them would pay for itself and still leave a net expense savings.
20 posted on 04/02/2006 10:58:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: kellynla; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...


Sally Struthers Ping!

So, see, you too can adopt this poor hungry wretch of an illegal alien for less than $5 a day, and send them back to the friends and family that they were forced to leave in order to make the arduous trek north across the blistering Arizona desert just to make a measly buck picking lettuce and cotton, 'cause no American will do those demeaning jobs.

Whew...that was a mouthful...

23 posted on 04/02/2006 11:09:27 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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Okay, if someone landed in my house, I got along with them, and they wanted to clean my house for cheap in return for being able to stay, I'd take them up on it. Believe me, I'd be a lot happier if someone would do that in my house.

On the other hand, if they came up to me and yelled that I stole the land from them and asked for it back, I'd call the cops.

I don't mind if people come here to make a living, and don't love America, but I really think it's better if they don't actively hate America and wish for its destruction. That's crossing a line I had no idea they had crossed.

After seeing those protests, I'm starting to change my thinking on this issue. I still don't like the views of the nativists because they seem so harsh, but I certainly don't like the fact that half a million people marched in an effort to turn our land into Mexico.

They sounded like the Palestinians, and they sounded angry enough to be suicide bombers. I don't think things will go that far since the Catholic church isn't going to preach sermons advocating that kind of behavior any time soon. But just the fact that I could make such a comparison doesn't strike me as a good sign.

And yet, all of this aside, I appreciate the vitality that Latin culture gives us. Right now, I live in Pittsburgh, which is about 90% white. Is life better because there are no illegal aliens?

Actually, it's worse. Everyone here is grim, unhappy, doing little but surviving. There is very little joy and vitality here. And part of the reason is a shrinking population.

If all the illegals were removed from LA and San Diego and other places with high concentrations, we'd see veritable ghost towns. The value of your home would almost certainly go down.

And the Latin flair and love of life, which I am convinced that we need, would go away.

The alternative is for our cities to look like Pittsburgh. Glum, white and shrinking.

I think I'd prefer LA as it is than for that to happen.

But that leaves out the fact that there are a lot of people who hate us, and if they hate us ... they shouldn't be here.

So I'm pretty confused about this issue and would welcome comments.

D





24 posted on 04/02/2006 11:12:28 PM PDT by daviddennis
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You must NOT deport the Illegals!

Think of Hollywood, you selfish bastards! How can a A-list or B-,C-, D-,....Z- list actor act like a king or queen of the manor with out Illegals.

Do you think they could afford a staff of people making minimum wage? Do you think these worker would be forced to put up with the weird whims and abuses heaped upon them by petty tyrants? Do you think the would be forced to live in a tiny room with no benefits so they can be at the beck-and-call of these Hollywood dictator-wanna-be's?

The Answer is NO! A Legal, free American worker would tell them to shove it up their a**! The Hollyweird..er..Hollywood
"elite" (which knows more then you folks, They just don't want to show you up so they 'nuance' everything. Just because they did not graduate high school doesn't make them stupid.

So when you think Illegal Immigration think about the Hollywood slave owners! (Sarcasm report)
30 posted on 04/02/2006 11:35:13 PM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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I'd love to see it. But it clearly won't be on Bush's watch.

It's one thing to round up and deport them. It's another thing entirely to keep them deported.

Heavy fortification all along the southern border. Perhaps as many as 40,000 troops on permanent patrol. Every German shepard on the planet. Massive sea-going deployment for coastal interdiction. Then there's Vicente Fox, whose popularity in Mexico hinges largely on his success in getting rid of Mexico's "undesirables" by dumping them into our country. We will have to forget about Mexican cooperation on anything -- oil, NAFTA, Venezuela, Cuba, Panama, etc.

But even with all that and more, I still say we should go for it. In fact, the best outcome, IMO, would be to finish what President Polk started.

32 posted on 04/02/2006 11:53:59 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Imagine that you came home tomorrow and found a stranger living in your home.

sheeesh, think they prostituted my tagline.

34 posted on 04/02/2006 11:54:56 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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I don't care how much it costs. The future of our country and our people is at stake.


35 posted on 04/03/2006 12:14:43 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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Would you pay $148 to have him removed, or would you instead just legally adopt him and give him the run of the place to save the $148?

Neither; I pick C.: Shoot his @55, and haul the carcass outside for a warning.

For all I know, he is an axe-murdering rapist pedophile terrorist, looking for a place to set up a meth lab, to finance church bombers.

36 posted on 04/03/2006 12:19:32 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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