Letter to Editor - Illegal Immigration - Ask Bishop when is okay to break law!

Georgia Bulletin ^ | 3/30/2006 | Lisa Olwine

[JustPiper]

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[VOYAGER]

Hallelujah!

My, my how the truth refreshes!

[Petronski]

As far as I'm concerned . . .

They should have their . . .

Why not repeat it again? I know your hate makes it important to vilify them as much as possible. Maybe it could be your tagline.

[blackie]

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!

[Lurker]

If hating pedophiles and those who enable them makes me some kind of monster then I happily plead guilty.

What do you think would be an appropriate response to an organization that knowingly shielded dozens of pedophiles from prosecution for decades?

I'd love to hear your views on that little matter.

Who was it that said "Put not your faith in the princes of men."? L

[eleni121]

"Providing for the needy is a Catholic requirement"

Let them go to Mexico and do it.
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Good advice and hoping the Roman Catholics will support more missions down there. Somehow I think that lots of fat and contented priests in the US colleges and seminaries won't go. They're (not all) too busy accommodating the secularists.

[ladyjane]

collections are back up to where they were prior to 2002.

Maybe where you are. They are not in many places. Attendance is down. Revenues are down. Legal bills are way up.

[dennisw]

What I really resent is belief that America's borders are not acknowledged by the Catholic church or at least by much of the Catholic church in America. How about the rest of Americans who are not Catholic? Our opinions on illegal immigration don't matter one darn bit to the Church!!

[dennisw]

Entirely ignored was the question of the extent to which immigrants are morally obligated to observe a country's laws governing entrance and residence. And if one's moral obligation to abide by the law is mitigated by one's difficult financial circumstances.......

I have never heard of people starving in Mexico or Central America. They may be poor and diet may be limited but they are not starving down there.

[I got the rope]

From the letter:

What pressure are Mexican bishops exerting to make their government more accountable to its people?

Mexican Bishops have not be able to speak out against the government since Emperor Maximillian seized all church property and split the Catholic Church of Mexico away from Rome. Since the Cristero Wars it has been illegal for any Church to speak out against the Mexican government or it's policies. It's in their Constitution.

[Fee]

After letting gays into Seminary, covering up pedophile priests, tolerating abortion supporting politicians and now supporting santuary for illegal immigrants, I think American Catholics should send a message to the Catholic bishops by leaving the church and attending conservative Protestant churches.

[FreeReign]

They are not in many places. Attendance is down. Revenues are down. Legal bills are way up.

Source?

[Mrs. Don-o]

You wrote: "My sis in law works at a Catholic parish ...Last year they did over 1800 baptisms. I asked how many were to illegal alien parents, she said at least 50%."

Wow. She investigated 1800 couples to determine their immigration status? Or... wait a minute ... they all just came up and told her?

[Know your rights]

I think American Catholics should send a message to the Catholic bishops by leaving the church and attending conservative Protestant churches.

I can't leave the One True Church for a false church, no matter how badly the former has been served by many of its clergy.

[Mrs. Don-o]

You wrote: "[The Catholic church] can hear the jingle of coins hitting that collection plate on Sunday morning."

Whatever one thinks of the USCCB on immigration legislation, it is ---how shall I say? --- at least counterintuitive to argue that the Bishops are trying to increase their collections by siding with the lowest-income day-laborers, dishwashers and motel-bathroom-cleaners. Income-maximizing clergy are usually excoriated for siding with the rich, not with the poor.

[hispanichoosier]

You don't have to ask, I have nothing but contempt for the catholic church.

Wow...I'm glad religious bigotry isn't the basis of most FReepers' arguments...

[Mrs. Don-o]

You wrote: "The Bishops are following the policy set down by theor Vatican masters...Immigration trumps American law."

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Catechism of the Catholic Church

"2241 ...Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants'duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

That's what my .. um... "Vatican masters" are teaching.

If you want to know what the Catholic Church teaches, your best bet is to go to the Catechism, which happens to be searchable online:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

On immigration:

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2241.htm

And, Catholics: If you're going to write to your Bishop, maybe this is the part you should emphasize. (Go ahead, introduce your Bishop to Catholic doctrine...it'll do him good...)

[Mrs. Don-o]

Good point there, FreeReign. But for some people, any stick is good enough to hit the Catholic Church with.

[Mrs. Don-o]

You wrote: "Mexican Bishops have not be able to speak out against the government since Emperor Maximillian seized all church property and split the Catholic Church of Mexico away from Rome. Since the Cristero Wars it has been illegal for any Church to speak out against the Mexican government or it's policies. It's in their Constitution."

True. Another thing most Americans don't realize about Mexico. I'd guess maybe 1 person in 100 knows about the Cristero war.

[Coleus]

and here come millions of devout Spanish speaking Catholics pouring over the border. Of course the church wants them coddled and cared for. They can hear the jingle of coins hitting that collection plate on Sunday morning. >>

you are so naive it's funny. First, not all of them are devout--far from it. Many belong to gangs and commit crimes against each other including: rape, robbery and murder. most of these immigrants have no or very little money, they either put change in the basket or a dollar bill folded up so small you can barely see it. They are a liability to the RCC just like they are to hospitals and schools. Those who receive the sacraments often do not pay for baptisms, marriages and funerals. Most do NOT send their kids to Catholic Schools and if they do the tuition is reduced or waived. Catholic Schools in the Hispanic Inner Cities all across America are closing for lack of enrollment. Read the papers and the FR.

Wake up already