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N.Y. puts caps on hospital fees for poor
http://www.upi.com/HealthBusiness/view.php?StoryID=20060331-045526-8369r ^ | March 31

Posted on 04/01/2006 11:07:54 AM PST by MRMEAN

ALBANY, N.Y., March 31 (UPI) -- New York legislators have imposed limits on how much the states' hospitals can charge low-income, uninsured patients.

According to a report Friday in Long Island Newsday, the new state budget contains provisions whereby patients with annual incomes at or below 100 percent of the federal poverty level would be charged "a nominal payment amount."

The new fee limits further stipulate that, for patients with incomes between 100 percent and 250 percent of the federal poverty level, hospitals would use a sliding fee scale, while for patients at between 250 percent and 300 percent of the federal poverty level, hospitals would not be allowed to charge more than what the largest group insurer -- for example Medicaid -- pays the hospital, the report said.

The rules also prohibit New York hospitals from forcing the sale of a person's home to pay for medical bills and from using a collection agency if the person has filed for financial aid.

Hospitals also would be required to make charity care policies clear to patients and to report the number of patients who have filed for financial aid, as well as the hospitals' costs of providing the care.

"This is a very big breakthrough," New York Assembly Member Pete Grannis said in the report. Grannis noted that, without the fee caps, low-income, uninsured patients "could be charged two, three, five times as much as someone with Medicaid."

The lawmakers predicted that New York Gov. George Pataki would likely go along with the new limits, the report said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
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1 posted on 04/01/2006 11:07:55 AM PST by MRMEAN
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To: MRMEAN
Excellent. Work hard, buy insurance, have an accident, and get stuck behind some minimum wage pinhead in the emergency room with a bad headache trying to score some pain meds for a "nominal" payment. Of course, you're already behind half a dozen pregnant illegals, but I digress..
2 posted on 04/01/2006 11:11:26 AM PST by King Moonracer
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To: MRMEAN
Idiots. This measure is going to force more hospitals and clinics to close their doors and the poor will still be left worse off.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 04/01/2006 11:11:49 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MRMEAN
To each, according to his needs,

from each, according to his abilities.

4 posted on 04/01/2006 11:15:58 AM PST by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: goldstategop
Maybe. But there is a real problem in this country, that if you present at the ER with insurance, you are well cared for, and your insurance pays x.

If you are uninsured, you are still well cared for, but you are billed 5x.

How is this just?

I don't know of another system where the poor are billed 5x as much for the same service.

5 posted on 04/01/2006 11:16:35 AM PST by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: goldstategop
idiots

These are New Yorkers, the most brilliant people on the planet. They can't be idiots--they just can't!

:-)
6 posted on 04/01/2006 11:19:51 AM PST by cgbg (When you hear the words "gender" or "stakeholder" run for your life!)
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To: MRMEAN

Welcome to NYCS. New York, Communist State.

I shudder to think that not only does Florida have waves of Canadians coming here for treatment, and I understand that very well, but next it will be New Yorkers coming here as more hospitals and clinics close there.

Maybe Pa & NJ will take up the slack.


7 posted on 04/01/2006 11:22:35 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: MRMEAN
Gee .. nice way to shut down the hospitals due to bankruptcies
8 posted on 04/01/2006 11:23:21 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: patton

If you present to the ER and are unable to pay, they cannot refuse you treatment.


9 posted on 04/01/2006 11:23:47 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: MRMEAN

Way to shut down more hospitals...

"Legislators" should just pass a law that bans

inequality,poverty,bigotry,bad breath,bad hair,violence,dog turds,zits,PMS,Oprah,Rudeness,Bad Mannners,fast food that doesn't look anything like the picture on the menu,ugly people,hollywood,idiots,death,sickness,islam,global warming,trade deficits,elevator muzak,nagging spouses,faucets that drip drip drip drip,toilets that run,appliances that break,cars that burn gas,flatulence,old women who wear waaaaaaaaay too much perfume,cannibals,those annoying little insects known as gnats,HANGOVERS,any liquor other than Tequila,cottage cheese thighs,fake boobs,telemarketers,stale bread when all you wanted was a damn sandwich,sharpie markers in the hands of 4 year old boys,toilet paper that just either lacks tensile strength or absorbancy,insanity,sharp boogers that refuse to be picked out and cause discomfort for HOURS,overdraft fees,frat boys,"reality" tv,parking meters,kids who refuse to clean their rooms,HUUUUUUUUGE women in denim...

Then everything would be just peachy, courtesy of absolute government encroachment into EVERYTHING.


10 posted on 04/01/2006 11:23:58 AM PST by 4U2OUI (losing what I thought was sanity...and liking it.)
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To: patton

Evidence?

Where's your evidence?


11 posted on 04/01/2006 11:24:58 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: bill1952
Maybe Pa & NJ will take up the slack

PA is losing doctors because they can't afford the malpractice insurance they need

12 posted on 04/01/2006 11:25:56 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: MRMEAN
The rules also prohibit New York hospitals from forcing the sale of a person's home to pay for medical bills and from using a collection agency if the person has filed for financial aid.

That is the key provision right there.

13 posted on 04/01/2006 11:26:37 AM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: 4U2OUI

LOL.


14 posted on 04/01/2006 11:27:22 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: MRMEAN

Oh boy! Price controls! Don't you just love it when politicians try to regulate supply and demand?


15 posted on 04/01/2006 11:28:27 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Mo1
Gee .. nice way to shut down the hospitals due to bankruptcies

Right now it is the people who are being treated that are going bankrupt. Medical bills are the leading cause in bankruptcies.

16 posted on 04/01/2006 11:28:32 AM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: patton

The poor are NOT billed 5x as much.....if they cannot pay it, they will pay MUCH less....even my Accountant has only Catastrophic insurance, and negotiates for a lesser cost.


17 posted on 04/01/2006 11:28:34 AM PST by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: MRMEAN

So if the "poor" pay nothing, and the State pays next to nothing, and the Feds pay 20% below cost, where's all the money going to come from?


18 posted on 04/01/2006 11:28:52 AM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Oh boy! Price controls!

No, just a fairness.

19 posted on 04/01/2006 11:29:32 AM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: goldstategop

According to NY law, they cannot refuse treatment.


20 posted on 04/01/2006 11:30:03 AM PST by durasell (!)
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