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Father learned daughter connected to Duke case from media reports (Duke Lacrosse Coach Threatened)
Knight Ridder Newspapers; WRAL; NBC17 | TONYA JAMESON

Posted on 03/31/2006 8:03:52 PM PST by Howlin

DURHAM, N.C. - The father of the woman who has accused members of the Duke lacrosse team of sexually assaulting her said he didn't find out that his daughter was the reported victim - and that she is an exotic dancer - until a reporter visited his house.

The retired trucker who lives in Durham said he saw his daughter the day after the reported attack, but she didn't say anything was wrong. She even left her car at the house for several days because he said she didn't want to drive it.

Her father, a quiet man who tinkers on cars as a hobby, said he saw news reports about the attack.

"I didn't know it was my daughter," he said. The Charlotte Observer generally does not name victims of sexual assault, so his name is being withheld to protect the identity of his daughter.

The case has ignited campus protests and stirred racial tension in Durham. The woman at the center of the case is black, and the men she accuses are white. She also is a student at N.C. Central University, a historically black college near Durham's inner-city, compared with the more expensive Duke campus.

DNA tests have been conducted on 46 of the lacrosse players, who deny the allegations. A 47th member, who is black, was not tested because the woman said her attackers were white.

Last week, a reporter stopped by the reported victim's house looking for her, the woman's father said, but he said he didn't know what was going on. He called his daughter and she said the district attorney told her not talk to anyone.

"(She) didn't tell us anything about it," he said.

He said he also found out through the media that his daughter, who is the youngest of three, was an exotic dancer.

"She always told me she was going to work," he said.

On Friday, he installed a timing belt in a car and watched his daughter's two children play outside the house. He said working on cars and playing with the grandchildren helps take his mind off what's happening with his daughter.

He said she seems to be doing "pretty good," and so is the rest of the family. He said they haven't talked much about the reported incident, but it weighs heavily on his mind. He said he's grateful that N.C. Central has been so supportive, but he doesn't like how his daughter has been portrayed in the media. And he's especially frustrated that no one has been charged in the connection with the allegations.

"If it had been anybody but them, they would have been locked up, but yet they didn't because it's Duke," he said. "I hope them boys - if they did it - I hope they get what they deserve. I hope they don't go lenient on them."

District Attorney Michael Nifong said he's waiting for results of the DNA test and that he does not expect to file charges in the case any earlier than next week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crystalmangum; duke; dukelax; dukeu; lacrosse
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To: Howlin

this is getting worse and worse: her father says she looked normal in one report, and looked all beaten up in another report.
either one reporter got it all wrong, or her father is changing his story, or she has TWO different fathers!


321 posted on 04/01/2006 10:53:58 AM PST by drhogan
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To: Howlin

I smells me a Tawana Brawley around here somewhere!

Semper Fi'
Jarhead


322 posted on 04/01/2006 10:54:26 AM PST by Buffettfan (FATASS AL SHARPTON CAN'T BE TOO FAR BEHIND)
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To: Brytani

I think our miscommunication results because you may not have gone back to the post to which I originally responded. Look at post #24.


323 posted on 04/01/2006 10:57:15 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: Howlin
"I wonder why she or the other dance cannot identify which ones attacked her -- or at least one of them. I mean, all accounts say some guy was leaning in their car window."

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Well, if it's nighttime and "victims" are under the influence-----

BTW, wonder what a bloodtest and/or urine test would turn up as regards to whether "victim" had been/not been consuming that day? Surely if she got hospital treatment she MUST have had a bloodtest just for her own safety?

324 posted on 04/01/2006 11:01:02 AM PST by Rockpile
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To: Howlin

Looks to me like the Democrats have adopted a policy of trying to foment race war and riots in order to recapture the political base they willfully abandoned through deception and malfeasance.

Same deal with Hurricane Katrina.

Two things come to mind, one, it shows they're desperate, which we already knew, and two, it shows that they think they've lost the black vote.

That seam is exploitable.


325 posted on 04/01/2006 11:01:43 AM PST by jeffers
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To: Howlin
She works for an escort service? Jason Bissey says he heard voices saying, "It's only $100" ?

Howlin, I have known some unsavory folks in my time. I still know some personally. I live in an area where, literally, on one side of the highway you have our neighborhood and on the other you have those of ill repute. You learn a lot in an area like mine.

My brother's wife was a "dancer" in her younger days and that wasn't that long ago. She and my brother have property currently being rented by a woman who worked for an escort service out of Fayetteville. (I have repeatedly questioned my brother's ethics for allowing this woman to live in his rental property).

Dancers called upon for private entertainment such as bachelor parties etc are normally contacted through an agency of sorts which always negotiate the price of their services beforehand, and in turn, pay the girls. Anything the girls are asked to and agree to do "on the side" can be negotiated upon arrival or during the course of the evening. Any woman working for an escort service pays out to the service a percentage of the night's income if she was contracted through the service. Any services they perform outside of the "contracted" services is theirs to keep. If Durham's escort services work the way most do, the service was paid upfront for the girls' appearance at the party. Why would the guys be outside discussing money unless something "extra" was in the works?

BTW, anyone familiar with the "entertainment" business will tell you, escort service is usually synonymous with "prostitution".

326 posted on 04/01/2006 11:03:05 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: drhogan
"if there was a rape, there should be medical evidence."

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What happens if "victim" arrived at Buchanan St. already supplied with DNA evidence? Came with pre-loaded software so to speak. Complicator factor for Heroic District Attorney and future political ambitions.

327 posted on 04/01/2006 11:05:33 AM PST by Rockpile
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To: Howlin
"I have another question; what on earth did the police who reponsded to the call at Kroger do for SIX HOURS in the parking lot?"

Gee..Lets see, 2 drunk/high hookers..err..strippers late at night, yes it might take the cops 6 hours to "Question" them.
328 posted on 04/01/2006 11:06:29 AM PST by Beagle8U (John McCain, you treasonous bastard)
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To: Howlin
I think I misspoke; I should have said when it is announced that they are innocent and/or no charges will be filed, all hell is going to break loose.

While I certainly expect that the hookers, I mean strippers, are lying and that this case will fall apart, my point is that when it does there will be no notice. The whole story will just go down the memory hole with Tawana Brawley, the National Guard memos, the "racism" of the murdered Wisconsin hunters, etc., etc., etc.

329 posted on 04/01/2006 11:07:12 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

they weren't strippers, they were prostitutes. the woman said she had only done "one-on-ones" in the past.
but you are right--she could have been raped earlier in the evening by someone else.
however, i think something did happen there. if you put a bunch of drunken athletes (one third of whom have arrest records, according to one story) in a room with 2 women, it is likely that a rape will occur.
of course, these prostitutes are probably sociopaths, and were apparantly on drugs, so their statements are worthless.
i would like to know more about the physical evidence, and the women's "dates" earlier in the evening.


330 posted on 04/01/2006 11:07:46 AM PST by drhogan
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To: PleaseNoMore

Good post


331 posted on 04/01/2006 11:08:10 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: pepsionice

in one story, she actually admits to being a prostitute. i don't think marriage is on her agenda.


332 posted on 04/01/2006 11:11:23 AM PST by drhogan
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To: Bob

is the DA white? maybe HE raped her. the lack of DNA evidence doesn't prove he is innocent.
maybe he can investigate that angle before the election.


333 posted on 04/01/2006 11:13:10 AM PST by drhogan
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To: pepsionice

one story said the lacrosse players were not from wealthy backgrounds.
the woman wouldn't make it in las vegas. i doubt if she even knows how to dance.


334 posted on 04/01/2006 11:16:32 AM PST by drhogan
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To: connectthedots

Your response to #24 was what I was talking about.

Innocent or not any person charged with a crime, especially the crime of rape, who doesn't get a lawyer IMO is a fool.


335 posted on 04/01/2006 11:20:18 AM PST by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: pepsionice
We could ask why is there only one black guy on the whole Lacrosse team as well.

Oh for chrissakes....how many black professional hockey players can you name?

336 posted on 04/01/2006 11:21:56 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: conservative in nyc

Exactly - and when you've got an overzealous DA going after 46 people for a crime only 3 of them may have committed, hiring a lawyer is the smartest thing they could do.

Ronnie Earl wouldn't agree and that's a good reason why I'd be on the phone with a lawyer ASAP.


337 posted on 04/01/2006 11:22:12 AM PST by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: Rockpile

The level of intoxication a rape victim is under during the alleged crime is not admissable nor a defense against rape.

I doubt they did a toxocology screen or a BAL test on her.


338 posted on 04/01/2006 11:24:32 AM PST by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: Carolinamom
We do know that she has 2 children w/no mention of a father for them ...

The story is badly written, or badly edited. She is the youngest of three daughters, and the children may be her sisters, not hers.

339 posted on 04/01/2006 11:25:02 AM PST by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: Rockpile

Even more so the presence of DNA extracted from sperm isnot proof in of rape.


340 posted on 04/01/2006 11:33:16 AM PST by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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