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The Root Cause (Illegal Immigration's Apologists Depantsed)
my own thoughts ^ | 03/31/2006 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 03/31/2006 4:42:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne

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To: the anti-liberal

A great post, thanks.


181 posted on 04/03/2006 3:50:42 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

And thank you for your comments.


182 posted on 04/03/2006 3:50:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: hershey; Ben Ficklin

You put a semicolon ; after each name. You can even put a bunch of names, but each one has to have a semicolon after.


183 posted on 04/03/2006 3:51:19 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Ben Ficklin

The country of origin isn't the problem, nor the language, nor the color of the illegals. It's the sheer numbers of them all at once. If they were Russians, Chinese, or Hottentots, I'd have the same complaint.


184 posted on 04/03/2006 3:53:07 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Ben Ficklin

I'm well aware that we need more workers, but we need to get control of the borders first. We can and must do both.


185 posted on 04/03/2006 3:55:05 PM PDT by hershey
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Thank you!!!!


186 posted on 04/03/2006 3:56:50 PM PDT by hershey
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To: DoughtyOne
Once again you are spreading mis-info.

Crime has always followed the waves of immigration in this country.

In fact, as I stated on a reply way up above, law enforcements methods of dealing with crime amongst the illegals were developed during the Irish immigration.

When the illegals are in the shadows, the criminals hide behind them. It is universally accepted that giving legal status to the illegals will enhance law enforcement's ability to apprehend. It is also universally accepted that having law enforcement enforce immigration law will drive the illegals further into the shadows, benefitting the criminals.

187 posted on 04/03/2006 4:09:11 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: hershey
or Hottentots,

Not me. I will never forgive the Hottentots for their awful actions in the 10th century. Ever. After aligning with the Lilliputins, these worthless scum are breeding like flies, playing loud music, and eyeballing American women ;)

188 posted on 04/03/2006 4:12:26 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: hershey
"we need to get control of the borders first"

I suggest that you carefully and thoroughly read the House enforcement bill.

You will notice that all these "remedys" will take years to implement. All these new border agents? Hired incrementally over many years. The employee verification system? Six years to implement. Based on the problems with the pilot program, 6 years is very optimistic. 700 miles of fence? A decade. They'll be in court for 6 years trying to seize the land to build the fence on.

No, the solution is reforming our immigration policies so that we have somthing that works. Without that, enforcement only is a certain failure.

189 posted on 04/03/2006 4:27:26 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, I'm just cautioning people to not get too carried away. If we allow the Democrats to regain control, it'll be a huge win for Marxism. It'll be liberal activist judges from now until doomsday. We'll never make any headway against illegal aliens or any other issue as long as the darkside can rely on their activist judges to overrule the will of the people.
190 posted on 04/03/2006 4:43:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Ben Ficklin
The reality is that the US will have a need to import labor.

The reality is that "our" government has subsidized the breeding of non-American invaders by making it difficult, if not impossible, for Americans to have enough children of their own.

The architects of this policy are traitors to the American nation. They should have their assets seized and their citizenship revoked, and forced to live in abject poverty with the people they seek to overrun America with.

191 posted on 04/03/2006 4:48:45 PM PDT by AuslanderRaus (RIP Chad Huber)
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To: AuslanderRaus
difficult, if not impossible, for Americans to have enough children of their own.

How so?

192 posted on 04/03/2006 4:50:44 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Tax burdens imposed to fund transfer payments to people who aren't supposed to be here, transfer payments to people who aren't productive, transfer payments to people who aren't productive AND aren't supposed to be here, and I think you get the picture.

"Our" government subsidizes foreign invaders by the million. Make no mistake: to display the flag of any nation is to proclaim that the foreign nation in question has sovereignty over that location. The invaders fly the flag of Mexico over American soil. That is an act of war. And we get to pay "our" government to help them do it.

193 posted on 04/03/2006 4:55:51 PM PDT by AuslanderRaus (RIP Chad Huber)
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To: AuslanderRaus
You said the US government is keeping Americans from having enough kids, then you didn't back it up.
I also see you just signed up today.

Guess how many kids Pat Buchanan has? Damn Feds!!

194 posted on 04/03/2006 4:58:58 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
You said the US government is keeping Americans from having enough kids, then you didn't back it up.

Well, you see, unlike the invaders, people like me have to pay taxes. And "our" government extracts so much in taxes that to have more than 2-3 children would be financially irresponsible for many American families.

If my tax burden were cut in half, I could afford to have another two children, thus hepling to provide the next generation of American workers. But, instead, my tax money goes to support enemy aliens who have invaded my country and boast their allegiance to a foreign government.

195 posted on 04/03/2006 5:09:11 PM PDT by AuslanderRaus (RIP Chad Huber)
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To: PRND21
Ridiculous. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

You ought to move over here to Albuquerque and take a look around.
196 posted on 04/03/2006 5:22:36 PM PDT by wjcsux (I would prefer to have the German army in front of me than the French army behind me- Gen. G. Patton)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Ben, can you fathom that it may just be you who are spreading disinformation.

Legalization is NOT the end of problems Ben. Three to five million more will come over next year.

Ben the citizens of the United States have a right to decide if they want to change the language to Spanish. They have a right to decide if they want to turn their own neighborhood into Guadalajara.

We're not talking about just legalizing 15 to 25 million. We're talking about 15 to 25 million bringing over another 1 to 4 people, possibly even more. We're talking about 50 to 100 million people over the next five to ten.

Ben, you've got to understand that so far on this thread, you've been blowing a lot of smoke. Your theories are wrong. You are convinced they aren't, but then there's a lot more at play here than your spin.


197 posted on 04/03/2006 8:34:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think that's an important valid point Jim.

For the record, I get very frustrated when it comes to what I see our side doing from time to time. You've seen me support someone other than Bush, then support Bush, then support someone as liberal as Schwarzenegger.

It's very tough to now exactly what to do at times. I know that I have frustrated others by my choices at times. Oh well.

Thanks for the response.

I will say that I truly believe that legalizing the people who are here will essentially turn this nation over to the whims of the Mexican nationals and recent Mexican nationals amongst us, as the numbers of immediate family members, births and more guest-workers explode inside our nation.

I say this, because I'm not convinced our failing to support the not-so-conservative conservative candidate is the only way to national ruin. I am not trying to say that I will not support the not-so-conservative candidate, it's just that I am trying to warn of what I see as a very real alternative route to national ruin.

Good night.


198 posted on 04/03/2006 8:43:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

"..If we allow the Democrats to regain control.."

Right! We can NEVER let that happen or ALL is lost.

But it does help to keep pressure on a nose bleed.

(in a reasonable fashion)


199 posted on 04/03/2006 8:56:36 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (When something leaks: 1. Fix leak 2. Clean up mess 3. Prevent future leak.)
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To: AuslanderRaus
If my tax burden were cut in half, I could afford to have another two children

Be Republican and Multiply!

200 posted on 04/04/2006 10:41:39 AM PDT by PRND21
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