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Tancredo Discusses Immigration Reform Bills
The Washington Post ^ | 03/30/2006 | Congressman Tom Tancredo

Posted on 03/31/2006 12:24:55 AM PST by NapkinUser

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To: bybybill

Your problem is that like all open borders types you attack the messenger because your idea of a 'solution' is more Mexicanization of America. To your ilk securing the borders of this country and enforcing its laws is extreme, unreasonable, all or nothing radicalism and anyone who would demand that the President of the US do his job would have to be a traitor.


61 posted on 04/01/2006 6:49:08 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Revel

"This guy should be the next president."

I would vote for Tom Tancredo if he decides to run.

God bless this man.


62 posted on 04/01/2006 6:50:57 PM PST by RoosterRe
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To: bybybill
I`m sure our troops will be real happy to hear that. Does that bother you maye just a bit?

The problem is the conversion of America into a third world country through unchecked illegal immigration. Problem is, Tom sees that as a problem. To you open borders types it is a worthy goal. It is precisely what you want. This is a 'problem' that you and your ilk do not at all want to see fixed. So attacking Tancredo for 'not working to fix the problem' when the elite consensus is that everything is going according to plan is the height of dishonesty.

So don't try to wrap the flag in the treasonous agenda of the open borders lobby.

63 posted on 04/01/2006 6:55:35 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: bybybill
"As for the ones that are here illegally now, they must register with the Feds. Then, if they don`t commit any new crimes, pay their taxes, learn the language, and our history,, after so many years, they can pay a fee, and get their citizenship."

No, they must be arrested and deported to their respective countries. And kept out.

64 posted on 04/01/2006 6:59:24 PM PST by RoosterRe
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To: bybybill
Tancredo will be lucky to win re-election in Colorado

Tancredo has won all of his Congressional races with relative ease.

65 posted on 04/01/2006 7:04:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: bybybill
would he stop asking you for money

I'd rather donate to Tancredo than to the RNC.

66 posted on 04/01/2006 7:08:21 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: bybybill
Tancredo will be lucky to win re-election in Colorado. Boy, if you are dumb enough to fall for terrible Tom`s line, I got a bridge in Brooklyn you need to invest in.

Do you honestly think that Tom`s ideas will become law? Do you think that is what he really wants? This is the IQ part.

What will Tom do if everything he wanted became law?

His ability to get your support and money goes south.

Please enlighten us.

A better and a workable solution is as follows....................???

67 posted on 04/01/2006 7:12:00 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: bybybill
Got to stop the bleeding first so increase the border patrol, build the fence, and toss anybody that is using forged docs.Local law must be a part of this and should be always able to turn over illegals that are caught committing new crimes here.

What the Hell do you think Tancredo has been doing all this time? He's been advocating this since he's been in Congress.

Then a REAL guest worker program that would only allow entree into this country if they worker already had secured employment that included start/stop dates. Part of earned wages would be paid at time of exit.

A guest-worker plan is still AMNESTY. There is no guarantee that they'll remain in their jobs and there'll be another layer of federal bureaucracy to boot.

As for the ones that are here illegally now, they must register with the Feds. Then, if they don`t commit any new crimes, pay their taxes, learn the language, and our history,, after so many years, they can pay a fee, and get their citizenship.

Again, you want to reward lawbreakers. THEY ALREADY BROKE THE LAW BY COMING HERE, why do you want them to register and remain in the country? Do you realize how absolutely myopic you are?

68 posted on 04/01/2006 7:14:07 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: bybybill
Identify an issue that most people are concerned about

And the problem with this is?

offer a simple set of solutions

So far so good.

become indigant when government officers aren`t as upset as you

This is good, for obvious reasons.

declare no compromise, keep fanning the flames

How often do you see a politician with brass cajones?

pray to GOD that no quick fix is found

Ok. This last line confuses me. If this were true, he should shut up, don't you think? I mean, he should want this to continue for as long as possible, otherwise he loses all that money future money, right?

69 posted on 04/01/2006 8:34:17 PM PST by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: Sam the Sham

HUH? Where have I ever said anything like that?


70 posted on 04/01/2006 10:24:22 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: RoosterRe

Ain`t going to happen on a massive scale, so get out of the dream world and lets try to figure out other ways toreduce the problem.


71 posted on 04/01/2006 10:28:52 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: bybybill

Fascinating how you devote so much time and attention to attacking Tancredo's motives while being so trusting of those whose agenda is frankly to turn American into a third world country by a deliberate open borders policy.

Kinda makes me wonder what your real agenda is.


72 posted on 04/01/2006 10:29:27 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: bybybill; RoosterRe; SealSeven

Fascinating how you always peddle the line that defending the borders of this country and enforcing its laws is pie in the sky extremism. Fascinating how often you attack those who want to protect this country while pretending that those who frankly want to merge this country into Mexico have the least interest in 'solving the problem'.


73 posted on 04/01/2006 10:33:04 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: SealSeven
Here is the deal, when politicians that build their power around a single issue, they will loss that power when,in the minds of the voters, the issue is solved.
Take abortion, for example.Lets say the Courts throw it out and say the states should decide. Politicians on both sides would USE this as away to gain power and campaign money. But once the states vote, the issue is decided and the POLITICAL POWER of the issue is gone. Look at integration for another example
74 posted on 04/01/2006 10:42:53 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Sam the Sham

Don`t tell a soul, promise, but I am a spy for Iceland.


75 posted on 04/01/2006 10:45:27 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Sam the Sham
Sam, got to learn to read all the words. I`m for securing the borders, build the fence a mile high. What I`m not for is this idea of a mass deportation. It won`t work,the courts would never allow it,and I`m not completely convinced that its a good idea.
76 posted on 04/01/2006 10:52:31 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: bybybill; SealSeven; RoosterRe; chris1; Stellar Dendrite

Fascinating how you have so much confidence in the good faith eagerness of the WSJ cheap labor types and La Raza to 'solve the problem'. Solve a problem that they themselves created. Fascinating how you insist that border enforcement would require mass deportations. Just dry up the source of employers and they will deport themselves. This isn't France where people can live on the dole forever. Fascinating how much time and effort you put into attacking those who waged the lonely fight to defend this country.

Frankly, you strike me as a sort of agent provocateur. An agent provocateur is a kind of police agent who infiltrates opposition groups. But his role is to be the troublemaker. He constantly attacks and undermines the leadership and tries to sow dissension while all the while presenting himself as the most ultra radical purist. He tries to sow defeatism and discouragement.


77 posted on 04/01/2006 11:05:53 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham

Iceland forever!


78 posted on 04/01/2006 11:32:41 PM PST by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: bybybill

"Ain`t going to happen on a massive scale, so get out of the dream world and lets try to figure out other ways toreduce the problem.

Reduce the problem? Why would you want to reduce the problem, rather than solving it? I can think of two very good reasons: 1.you have a financial self-interest; 2.you have an agenda and would love to see our country balkanized, its numerical majority diluted, and America's culture and heritage degraded and ultimately subeverted.

Either way, none of the reasons make you a friend and defender of our country.


79 posted on 04/02/2006 1:09:56 PM PDT by RoosterRe
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To: bybybill
Here is the deal, when politicians that build their power around a single issue, they will loss that power when,in the minds of the voters, the issue is solved.

Illegal immigration is not a trivial matter, bybybill. It effects all aspects of our economy. I disagree with this statement in that what he stands to gain (another term in office, a true patriot for the working class Americans, etc)is much more than that of the pro-illegal crowd. This is a big issue and people will not forget who the true political allies are of this country.

Take abortion, for example.Lets say the Courts throw it out and say the states should decide. Politicians on both sides would USE this as away to gain power and campaign money. But once the states vote, the issue is decided and the POLITICAL POWER of the issue is gone. Look at integration for another example

IMO, Tancredo would stand to gain much more if he was pro-illegal alien as opposed to anti-illegal immigration. He faces much more resistance in his position on this issue. There is big money in illegal immigration for politicians (Corporations, special interest groups, etc)as opposed to politicians like Tancredo (American tax payers, legal aliens,etc).

Proverbs 17:15: Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent— the LORD detests them both.

80 posted on 04/02/2006 2:09:29 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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