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Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/30/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

Posted on 03/30/2006 6:00:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge

CANCUN, Mexico - With Mexican President Vicente Fox at his side, President Bush gave Congress a long-distance push Thursday to open the United States to immigrant workers who have been sneaking across the borders to fill low-paying jobs.

"We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do," Bush said at the end of a private meeting with Fox, where the issue was on top of the agenda. "We want them coming in in an orderly way, which will take pressure off both our borders."

The meeting between the Mexican and U.S. leaders came on the first day of a two-day North American summit that also includes Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Harper, meeting with Bush for the first time since taking office two months ago with the promise of building stronger ties with Washington, said the two countries are moving past their "tension" over Iraq.

Still, he took a combative stance on their long-standing dispute over U.S. tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber, saying Canada would "pursue all its legal options" if he and Bush can't work out an agreement.

But it was the immigration debate, which has dominated the U.S. Senate this week, that took center stage in talks conducted in a beachfront resort surrounded by bikini-clad spring breakers. A new immigration law could affect as many as 6 million Mexicans living illegally in the United States — about half of all those who are estimated to have sneaked in from other countries seeking new opportunities they can't find at home.

Bush is pushing for a guest worker program that would let foreigners in low-paying jobs stay temporarily, which Fox says is a good first step toward some form of legal status for all Mexican illegal immigrants.

The issue has united the two leaders, whose friendship dates back to Bush's time as Texas governor but was strained over Fox's objections to the war in Iraq. But immigration has divided Bush's Republican party, with business interests who want cheap labor battling conservatives who want a get-tough policy against illegal immigrants.

Fox suggested the issue is largely out of their hands now.

"The matter is in the Congress of the United States and that is where the decision will be made," Fox said. "It is no longer between President Bush and President Fox."

But both leaders were clearly trying to sway the debate.

"I told the president there is a legislative process that's going forward," Bush said. "And that it may look cumbersome to some, but that's how our democracy works."

Bush added, "I'm optimistic that we can get a bill done."

The summit included plenty of time to be neighborly. The three leaders dressed casually in open-collared shirts and strolled together among the ancient Mayan ruins at Chichen Itza before sitting down for more intense one-on-one meetings. Fox planned a lavish dinner for his guests.

After spending the morning sightseeing, Bush had a few hours off before the formal meetings began. He used part of the time to work up a sweat in his hotel's gym.

There was tight security despite the fun-loving atmosphere generated by college students who have flocked to Cancun for spring break. Gunboats patrolled the turquoise waters off Bush's spa resort, and fencing kept out all but hotel guests. "I'd like to make sure you work more than you play," Bush joked to reporters.

The trilateral meeting was expected to be Fox's last, since he is set to leave office this year because of term limits. Bush lauded Fox for stabilizing the Mexican economy and improving the net worth of his people.

"That's important for the American economy as well," Bush said. "The more net worth there is in Mexico, the more likely it is the Mexican may be wanting to buy a U.S. product. And vice versa, by the way."

In his meeting with Harper, Bush sought to make the newly elected leader look good at home, making it a point to stress how hard the Canadian leader had pressed him on the softwood lumber issue. Harper "made an emphatic case," Bush said.

"I appreciate his steely resolve to get something done," the president said. "I appreciate your pushing."

But Bush didn't give Harper much of substance, saying only that "my intent is to negotiate in good faith and a timely fashion to resolve this issue."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
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To: clawrence3
I have a huge problem with abortions. That is not the question. If your idiotic comment had any meaning then we would simply murder people.

This country has doubled in population since I was a kid. Immigration is increasing. Before long it will have doubled again. Yes it will become 1 Billion and not in that long a time frame.

121 posted on 03/30/2006 6:45:25 PM PST by yarddog
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To: oceanview

My husband wrote a college paper in the 70's on the grapeworkers strikes and the living condition of these workers. It was pretty deplorable and squalid. These same employers seek an ever lower wage to pay to the masses around the world who are happy to work for the wages an American won't work for. This is clearly an attack on the middle class and the quality of life of legal Americans.


122 posted on 03/30/2006 6:45:27 PM PST by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: Supernatural

Yep end, game , match.


123 posted on 03/30/2006 6:45:36 PM PST by lawdog
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To: CodeToad

Whatever happened to deportation of illegals who commit crimes when they complete their sentences?


124 posted on 03/30/2006 6:45:50 PM PST by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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To: clawrence3
"would the following be better: "do jobs that Americans won't do for that wage"?"

A bit better, but that isn't what he's saying. That also implies that we'll get off our lazy arses if we're paid a king's ransom, which just isn't the case. What it comes down to is that uses of cheap labor are essentially hanging on to a system of modern-day slavery. The new way of thinking is that if you get people who are poor enough to come to you, you don't have to purchase them, you don't have to pay for overseers, you don't have to house them, and you can just split up that money among them to keep them working. In other words, it's not much different from African slaves picking cotton; the monetary distribution's just a little different.

That doesn't make it right.
125 posted on 03/30/2006 6:46:00 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: CodeToad; texastoo

I can't think of a crummy job that I haven't done or that "Americans won't do."

I have shoveled out chick coops, milk barns, horse stalls with a wooden handled shovel. I've cleaned toilets, made beds, I still wash the pots after dinner in our home so my wife won't have to do it. When I was a youngster I washed pots in restaruant, so I do know how to do the work.

I'll make a bed or dump the trash. The one job I don't do is the laundry. The Mrs. won't let me get anywhere near that room. LOL. There's a story about that situation.


126 posted on 03/30/2006 6:46:19 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We don't want people sneaking into our country that are going to do jobs that Americans won't do,"

We don't want people "sneaking" into our country "period" and for good reason.

Perhaps we need a nuclear scientists to fill open positions.

Perhaps, middle eastern candidates in our country "illegally" should be given amnesty?

Our federal governments primary concern is and should be national defense and to belittle the laws in place with illegals only shows a lack of concern for our national defense via lax laws on immigration.

127 posted on 03/30/2006 6:46:29 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: ArtyFO

I don't think we deport much of anyone anymore for any reason.


128 posted on 03/30/2006 6:46:46 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: NJ_gent

I have a new mantra.

"Bush lead us. Tell us what jobs Americans won't do."


129 posted on 03/30/2006 6:47:06 PM PST by Shermy
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To: NormsRevenge
Bush has gone completely insane. Its like he is getting orders from his boss elPresidente Fox.

If congress goes along with Bush's insane plan to allow the criminal aliens to become citizens, the he will have no credibility when he makes speeches about keeping the country safe from terrorism.

And the Dems are just sitting back and enjoying yet another Repub. fiasco. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone!
130 posted on 03/30/2006 6:47:16 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: ARCADIA

indeed - that's how our economy used to work - we used technology to increase productivity and reduce the need for labor. why hasn't anyone invented an automated lettuce picker? why bother, when migrant farm workers can be had for $30 a day. why can't I pull up to a Wendy's drive thru and enter my own order on a touch screen like ATM screen? why do we need some dude talking to me to take my order through a microphone/speaker system?


131 posted on 03/30/2006 6:48:11 PM PST by oceanview
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To: NormsRevenge

Of all the issues for him to dig his heels in on.


132 posted on 03/30/2006 6:48:16 PM PST by skeeter
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To: B4Ranch

"I can't think of a crummy job that I haven't done or that "Americans won't do." "


When a 15 year old is trying to enter the minimum wage market andis pushed aside for anillegal or told they must speak Spanish to ge the job why would that American 15 year old work the job?

They've ruined the market and now claim that no American wants the jobs.


133 posted on 03/30/2006 6:48:35 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: NJ_gent

Wow! "it's not much different from African slaves picking cotton" - tell that to those who have been in the U.S. for 25 yrs and have 3 kids aged 14, 17 and 22 who are all U.S. citizens with the oldest a West Point grad - no different, huh?


134 posted on 03/30/2006 6:48:35 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: beyond the sea

I don't trust Savage one bit. I'm not saying he is incorrect, and I will be highly distrubed if what he said is true.

But he takes so much liberty with the truth, and he gave Chukie Schumer a big sloppy BJ a few weeks back I just about puked.


135 posted on 03/30/2006 6:49:28 PM PST by pissant
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To: Owen
The president has done a better job on the borders than his predecessors.

Really? Would you care to post the annual total numbers of illegal immigrants who have busted across the border since, say 1988?

136 posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:14 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Owen

"The president has done a better job on the borders than his predecessors".

Bush's predecessors have done nothing but make sure the floodgates were wide open.

Bush has had five years to get things under control and has done nothing but to insure that the floodgates stayed wide open.

You say, "Bush is doing a super job on this".

Doing a super job on what, giving the country away?


137 posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:23 PM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: CodeToad
Sure, but wasn't that the same argument used to keep slavery intact, that business would suffer?

http://www.cis.org/articles/1999/back1299.htm

Aware that the federal government was supplying West Coast growers with Mexicans, East Coast producers demanded access to foreign workers as well. The offer was not long in coming. In April of 1943, Congress passed Public Law 45, a remarkable piece of legislation. It allowed for the expansion of the farm labor supply program, so long as federal funds were not used to improve the wages or conditions of American farmworkers. It froze American farmworkers where they were, allowing them to take a job on a farm elsewhere only if their local county agricultural extension agent said they could. And it reserved the federal migrant labor camps for foreign workers. Men and women from the Bahamas began departing for Florida almost immediately, and negotiations soon began to extend the migration program to Jamaican men.
138 posted on 03/30/2006 6:50:31 PM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: CodeToad

Please cite for me the "wage" paid to African slaves.


139 posted on 03/30/2006 6:51:03 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: beyond the sea

As a nation, we are in complete meltdown.


140 posted on 03/30/2006 6:51:06 PM PST by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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