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Cultural Collapse Spells Doom for 'Democracy'
CNSNews.com ^ | March 30, 2006 | Christopher G. Adamo

Posted on 03/30/2006 7:51:30 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi

From a strictly military perspective, Iraq represents a stunning victory for America. But as capably as American forces prevailed over Saddam Hussein on the field of battle, the post-war effort has been frustrating, to say the least.

Efforts to elevate Iraq's new government to a modern version of the democratic process, despite seeming so close to the final goal, are regularly discouraged and stalled.

The reasons for this quandary are simple, yet fundamentally profound. In short, democracy, or any of its derivatives (as is our own representative republic), cannot create or uplift a culture. Rather, they will only ever succeed at reflecting it.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collapse; cultural; democracy; doom; for; spells

1 posted on 03/30/2006 7:51:32 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi
A journalist should be required to study AMERICA HISTORY, and how we STILL HAVE NOT gotten our "democracy" perfect to date.

Our Fore Fathers fought angrily over the shape of our Republic. Some killed each other in pistol duels. We EVEN fought THE AMERICA CIVIL WAR, which makes casualties in the War in Iraq look like a Boy Scout camp-out! Not meaning to denigrate the suffering and sacrifice of our magnificent HEROES, but 50,000 plus Americans killed in a single battle needs some perspective. GOD bless and KEEP our service men and women!

GET A GRIP AND A DOSE OF REALITY MSM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LLS
2 posted on 03/30/2006 8:08:58 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: cougar_mccxxi

Forget Iraq.

We got some serious cultural collapse here.

I agree with Kissinger...rarely.

Partition the place. leave some peacekeepers

stay good with the Kurds

do the best we can with the Shia and Sunnis

rope off Iraq

but we have some serious crap going on at home we better quit ignoring.

and the possibility of a Chavez on our southern border....not that Fox is worth a damn anyhow


3 posted on 03/30/2006 8:15:25 AM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: LibLieSlayer
A journalist should be required to study AMERICA HISTORY, and how we STILL HAVE NOT gotten our "democracy" perfect to date.

He does put quotes around "democracy" so it looks like he's got the same idea that democracy hasn't ever been wholly realized:

To the degree that "democracy" has succeeded in western civilization, it has done so as a result of an inherent regard for the rights of all, including the weak, which itself is rooted in the Christian belief system undergirding that civilization. Among those cultures that do not inherently recognize such truths, "democracy," if it is to succeed at all, must be imposed by an outside force.

He looks to be saying that if it's so hard for us to get the idea right, is it really going to work among people who have so much less practice? I don't know if he's right or not, but CNS isn't MSM. It's a conservative service founded by Brent Bozell.

4 posted on 03/30/2006 9:04:06 AM PST by x
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To: LibLieSlayer

Not sure of the point of your response though it is a heated one.

Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 03/30/2006 9:08:42 AM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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To: cougar_mccxxi
One of my initial concerns with self elected representation in these countries as a means of diminishing the influence of radicals was,,who will they elect? Radicals of course.

Having said that, it is just a concern, not a reason not to have elections.

6 posted on 03/30/2006 9:47:11 AM PST by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: wardaddy

Wardaddy is exactly right. While we are puzzling over the nuances of Iraqi interpersonal relationships, the whole of South America is going the way of Chavez, and we ourselves have been invaded by 11 million illegal aliens.


7 posted on 03/30/2006 9:52:49 AM PST by Malesherbes
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Even when DEMOCRACY is less than functional, it beats ALL OTHER SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT KNOWN TO MAN! At least we don't see the "Killing Fields" of Cambodia, or the MASS GRAVES of IRAQI'S, filled with hundreds of thousands of bodies.

LIBERTY is a GOD given right! CNS author writes like a LSM pundit.

LLS


8 posted on 03/30/2006 9:59:57 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: cougar_mccxxi

I guess my point was my last sentence. It was not meant to reflect on you. I'm sorry if you thought that's what I intended.

Glad to post as it let me vent against the LSM... that is ALWAYS a good thing! :-)

LLS


9 posted on 03/30/2006 10:02:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: wardaddy

I agree, I supported the effort to nation build Iraq, but accept for the Kurds Iraq appears to be a lost cause, dido Afganistan. Meanwhile we are being invaded here in the usa. Time to take case of business at home and forget about all this nation building over seas.


10 posted on 03/30/2006 10:05:57 AM PST by jpsb
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To: LibLieSlayer

Right on.


11 posted on 03/30/2006 4:33:42 PM PST by cougar_mccxxi
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