With all due respect to Uncle Sam, this shows Los Angeles has never stopped being ours."

2/28/206

[Ladycalif]

Erasing All Doubt Mexico Gloats Over Conquest of Aztlan

Lou Dobbs Tonight - CNN - March 28

Dobbs: President Fox said the bill resulted from five years of work that began with his inauguration as Mexico's president in 2000. Fox says it's one step closer to Mexico's goal of "legalization for everyone" who works in the United States."

Mexican media commentators went even further. They see a reversal of Mexico's defeat in the Mexican-American War of 1848.

Speaking about the massive demonstrations in Los Angeles over the past few days, Alberto Tinoco of Televisa television network said, "With all due respect to Uncle Sam, this shows Los Angeles has never stopped being ours."

[dalereed]

"They see a reversal of Mexico's defeat in the Mexican-American War of 1848"

They weren't mexicans, they were spanish.

Mexicans still aren't accepted in Mexico, just tolerated.

[TheForceOfOne]

I hate that AHOLE

[LADY J]

I'm listening to Mike Gallagher online (http://www.mikeonline.com)

He's calling all the other talk show hosts of like-mind to get his listeners and their listeners to have an AMERICAN rally against these gangsters!! This will be in the Dallas/Ft Worth area!!

They are working on a concept - a name and a web site for volunteers to sign up.

Hope all the FReepers in that area show up!!

Would be great if this same thing happened all across America.

[Ladycalif]

WWW.MINUTEMANPARTY.COM



If you watched our local news in S. California, they
did not show this just as they do not spend any time
interviewing outraged citizens. These are the
"victims" who should be heard and tolerated unlike the
Minutemen, who rather than concerned citizens are
dismissed with contempt as a fringe group.


If you are still sitting around wondering what to do,
then we are lost. I think the time has come for us to
stop trying to influence our politicians, who seem to
have more regard for the illegal alien who cannot vote
than for decent, hardworking, law-abiding, tax-paying
citizens.
Today is the day for the Mexican Flag to be torn down
wherever it may fly over our soil & it must be
subjected to desecration in answer to the treatment
that our flag has suffered at the hands of those to
whom the Senate would grant the right to become citizens.


If every American Citizen burns a Mexican flag in public this week in protest of President Bush going to Mexico to listen to the demands of Vicente Fox instead of the will and the voice of the people, it is possible that one or two media outlets might listen to the outrage of ordinary American citizens.
As it stands, they have largely ignored John Q. Citizen this past week since the protests with the thousands of Mexican flags made for better TV.

I did have a reporter call me & ask me if this means that I am "anti-Latino", which I find to be an interesting question: Does that make the Latino students who burned the American Flag, "anti-American".

If all we do is call talk radio, write letters to newspapers and congressmen, we will have failed our nation. Radical times call for radical ideas. Extremism in defense of liberty is not a vice, nor is radical creativity.

Since the media has little interest in the opinions of the angry, frustrated, outraged citizens of these United States, perhaps a simple, more graphic form of protest will force them to cover our viewpoint.


If you watched our local news in S. California, they did not show this just as they do not spend any time interviewing outraged citizens. These are the "victims" who should be heard and tolerated unlike the Minutemen, who rather than concerned citizens are dismissed with contempt as a fringe group.

If you are still sitting around wondering what to do, then we are lost. I think the time has come for us to stop trying to influence our politicians, who seem to have more regard for the illegal alien who cannot vote than for decent, hardworking, law-abiding, tax-paying citizens.

If those who have taken to our streets waving foreign flags, while burning American flags or worse yet, dumping them in the gutter (while we are at war), are rewarded for their disrespectful behavior with something as precious as citizenship.



NOTE: I am not advocating violence nor anything close to it, but I think since the phone calls to congress have failed, and the media will not cover our voices, then radical times call for radical measures, and after all, the media has been saying that civil disobedience is to be celebrated....isn't flag burning our "protected free speech" or does that only apply when the students burn the American flag?

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[untenured]

"With all due respect to Uncle Sam, this shows Los Angeles has never stopped being ours."

Once it's officially yours, all the Mexicans in situ will presumably flee once again to El Norte, which will now be at the Oregon border.

[djf]

Let's imagine America adopted a new policy. We would encourage people to go north to Canada. The ones we encouraged the most would be:
Criminals
the impoverished
the uneducated
those with few skills

Now what would we call this policy? Can anybody imagine that if we were to do it, all hell would break lose with all the rights groups and ACLU, etc?

Why, then, can Mexico have this policy and there isn't even one dam peep about it?

[kittymyrib]

White people should leave CA while the real estate market will still give them a good price on their property. Besides, someday the Mexicans will vote in someone like Hugo Chavez of Venezuela who will take their houses and give them to the peons who put him in power. It's the Mexican/South American Leftist paradise all of us in Mexican areas of the US can look forward to.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

With all due respect to Tinoco, when is Mexico giving the land back to the Aztecs, Mayans and other indigenous people?

[Libloather]

Try Laura Ingraham on radio - 9am to noon EST. She hasn't stopped talking about this for the past few years. Rush picked it up because it was hot. Hannity on radio is OK as well...

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

[DustyMoment]

If the Senate goes through with their immigration bill in the face of massive American opposition, I believe that there won't be a bigger or more divisive issue. If the team of Kennedy and McCain think this is a good idea, they couldn't be more wrong.

Polls, scientific and otherwise, continually show that the majority of Americans oppose any form of amnesty, guest worker programs, or any other action but closing the border and sending the illegals back home. The demonstrations should have been a HUGE wake-up call to the pols in Wash.

One delicious irony, the illegals who protested are so stupid, they used the occasion to bash their biggest advocate - George W. Bush!!!

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

This is slightly off topic, but suppose the federal govt., as the state of Georgia considered doing last week, levied a surcharge on all $$ being sent to Mexico by wire. GA was considering 5%, I don't know what ever became of that, but supposed the feds tried 20%. This $$ could be given back to the states in which it was collected to help pay for increased costs incurred by the presence of illegals.

[Isabelle]

When will it be legal to defend our country?

When a terrorist sneak through and explodes a dirty bomb---h@ll maybe not even then.

[Yorlik803]

Mexico is pissed because not only did we take half their land,we took the half with paved roads

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

I think these riots are going to have an impact, and it's not what the terrosists want.

These riots have enraged me. If they were supposed to create sympathy for the illegals they've had the opposite effect. Any shred of sympathy I had is gone. They all need to go, the sooner the better.

And the really sad thing is, I don't care if there are allegations of police brutality in the process. There I said it. I guess that makes me a bad person. :-/

We are heading towards a civil war in this country.

[Butcher Kilroy]

This is Bush's agenda: It outlines the integration of the US with Canada and Mexico. It is clearly setting up a socialt state. It will be a difficult process but we can defeat Bush and others that want to impose this on a free America.

Make North America safer:

• Establish a common security perimeter by 2010. Develop a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers.
• Develop a unified border action plan and expand border customs facilities.

Create a single economic space:

• Adopt a common external tariff.
• Allow for the seamless movement of goods within North America.
• Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the U.S.
• Develop a North American energy strategy that gives greater emphasis to reducing emissions of greenhouse gases -- a regional alternative to Kyoto.
• Review those sectors of NAFTA that were excluded. Develop and implement a North American regulatory plan that would include "open skies and open roads" and a unified approach for protecting consumers on food, health, and the environment.
• Expand temporary worker programs and create a "North American preference" for immigration for citizens of North America.

Spread benefits more evenly:

• Establish a North American Investment Fund to build infrastructure to connect Mexico's poorer regions in the south to the market to the north.
• Restructure and reform Mexico's public finances. Fully develop Mexican energy resources to make greater use of international technology and capital.

Institutionalize the partnership:

• Establish a permanent tribunal for trade and investment disputes.
• Convene an annual North American summit meeting.
• Establish a Tri-national Competition Commission to develop a common approach to trade remedies.
• Expand scholarships to study in the three countries and develop a network of Centers for North American Studies.

[killjoy]

Mexico is pissed because not only did we take half their land,we took the half with paved roads

ROTFLMAO!!!

[AZ_Cowboy]

Mexican media commentators went even further. They see a reversal of Mexico's defeat in the Mexican-American War of 1848.

Actually, what that means is that they have not honored the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo and probably the terms of the Gadsden Purchase as well.

The Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo had the following key provisions, if my memory serves me well:

- Mexico ceded what is now California, Nevada, Utah, and portions of Arizona, New Mexico, Wyoming, and Colorado.

- We paid Mexico the sum of $15 Million and assumed all debts Mexico owed to Americans previously in the territories.

Now, this was in 1848. We then went through with the Gadsden Purchase in 1853 and paid Mexico another $10 million to acquire what was basically now Arizona south of Phoenix and A small Southwestern corner of New Mexico below Las Cruces. We wanted the land for two reasons: Mainly, we wanted to build a railroad there. We still had border skirmishes around there too and disputes over where exactly the real borders were.

Now, look, we had already beaten them badly enough that they wanted to surrender. Not only did we agree to stop the fighting, but we paid them money for the land! Then we came back in 1853 and bought some more much in the way that we did with the French in 1803. What gives?

[riri]

I could have written your post. I can't remember ever being this fired up. I am talking taking it to the streets with pitchforks angry.