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DNA could modify itself with no outside help, say biologists
Princeton University ^ | March 28, 2006 | Chad Boutin

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:47:22 PM PST by SampleMan

Spirals of DNA, once thought to be merely the passive memory banks that preserve life’s blueprints, may also actively modify themselves under certain conditions, according to Princeton University scientists.

A team of molecular biologists has found that some single strands of DNA are capable of removing a genetic building block from the spiral, a task previously thought to be impossible without the involvement of a separate catalyst such as RNA or proteins. Such removal, called depurination, occurs only at a single point within a particular genetic sequence, one that appears at least 50,000 times in the human genome. The team’s discovery that the removal occurs consistently in laboratory samples indicates that DNA is a more dynamic substance than was previously thought, and it raises the possibility that other unexpected behaviors still await discovery in this well-studied molecule.

“No one ever dreamed genomic DNA may have another function besides memory storage, but it apparently does,” said Jacques Fresco, the Damon B. Pfeiffer Professor in the Life Sciences at Princeton. “We don’t really know yet why or how it happens, but it makes us wonder what else DNA might be doing without our knowledge.”

Dr. Ann Skalka, senior vice president for basic science at the Fox Chase Cancer Center in Philadelphia, said the findings merit continued attention.

“This fascinating and unanticipated new property of DNA has the potential to cause substantial damage to our cells, leading to cancer or other diseases, unless it is controlled or exploited for some beneficial purpose,” she said. “We will stay tuned.”

Fresco’s team published its findings in the March 21 issue of the journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Also contributing to the research are Princeton researcher Olga A. Amosova and Richard Coulter, currently at West Chester University.

The double-stranded helical structure of DNA is a shape familiar to many, and these long, stringy molecules are in most circumstances unchanging and highly stable -- valuable characteristics for objects whose function is to preserve the master plan of the organism that carries them. Altering the sequence of a DNA strand is often necessary for innumerable bodily functions, such as growth and healing, but scientists previously thought that such alterations require other chemical catalysts or enzymes to do the clipping and rearranging.

When DNA does undergo such changes, its two strands sometimes separate from one another like a broken zipper splitting down the middle, the teeth of one side pulling away from the other. But in some cases, each side will then often bunch up so its teeth can latch on to others from the same side, forming small “loops” of a single-stranded DNA that extend out from the side of the double-stranded helix’s “stem.”

“For genes to express themselves and create change within the body, you absolutely have to get the two strands of DNA apart first, and it’s only through separation that DNA forms these stem-loops,” said Amosova, a research molecular biologist and Fresco’s long time collaborator. “Such separation occurs, for example, when genes are doing something to regulate the body.”

But the team found that if a stem-loop forms from a particular sequence of DNA, one of the genetic “teeth” will fall spontaneously from that side of the zipper, and the weakened strand will eventually break apart in that spot unless it is repaired by enzymes in the cell. Fresco said this sort of activity seems akin to self-mutilation at first glance.

“To a scientist, this kind of self-inflicted genetic damage appears unhealthy, the sort of thing that would cause undesirable mutations and could kill off the organism,” Fresco said. “Cells have evolved a complex DNA repair system to constantly repair such damage. But evolution has not, as we’d expect, put a stop to it. So we theorize it must be happening for some good reason that we have yet to uncover.”

Of the more than 3 billion DNA building blocks in the human genome, the 18-residue sequence that gives rise to the cleavage occurs in about 50,000 places -- a very significant number, Fresco said.

“We can only speculate now as to what aspects of biology this self-cleavage could influence, but the general function of stem-loops combined with the number of sites where depurination can occur does make us curious enough to look further,” Amosova said. “Such a self-depurination capability may, for example, be beneficial in sections of the genome involved in antibody production, where losing a building block from the sequence could lead to higher mutation rates in the antibody-coding genes. This, in turn, could lead to a larger variety of antibodies to protect the body more effectively.”

More generally, Amosova said, losing a building block increases the flexibility of the otherwise highly rigid DNA molecule, which in some circumstances needs to be bent.

“Flexibility could help with DNA packaging, which happens any time you need to stuff DNA into a tight place,” she said. “In particular, viruses typically pack a lot of DNA strands into their shells, leaving virtually no space unused. It may also play a role in the folding of DNA in chromosomes.”

Still, Fresco said, it remains too early to tell where the discovery will lead, though the team will look for some possible biological role for their finding.

“Thus far we have observed this effect under laboratory conditions that closely resemble those within the cell. Now, we would like to observe them directly in the cell nucleus,” he said. “If we have indeed found one way that DNA can change itself spontaneously, there might be others, and we plan to hunt for them.

“Additionally, I might mention that this discovery was made while we were exploring ways to repair the genetic mutation that causes sickle cell anemia,” Fresco said. “We noticed that the depurination occurs right next to the site of the mutation responsible for the disease, but we don’t yet know if there’s any relation between these two facts. We certainly hope we’ve noticed an effect that will eventually offer some new approaches to many diseases.”


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To: Dimensio

I'll be praying for you dear.
It's all that I know of that can
help you over come your Spiritual blindness
Have a good day.


161 posted on 03/31/2006 11:48:48 AM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB
I'll be praying for you dear.

I do not see how this will demonstrate your claims to be accurate, nor do I understand how this will link your claims to the theory of evolution.
162 posted on 03/31/2006 12:20:29 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Jesus said:
Matt. 10:14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

That is where I am with you.

I have told you the Truth and you refuse to even
try to understand or accept the fact that "I" might
be right and "you" might be wrong.
You aren't looking for answers only arguments.
I am shaking the dust off my feet with you
and my conscience is clear before God and man.

You are here:
Acts 28:26 ‘Go to this people and say,
“You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.”


You just don't get it and don't want to get it
because you are too caught up in your little vacuum
of a world. I do pray God will open your eyes to
the Truth.

Any more replies to me will only get you a blank reply
which means I have nothing else to say to you.
163 posted on 03/31/2006 12:43:11 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB
I have told you the Truth and you refuse to even try to understand or accept the fact that "I" might be right and "you" might be wrong.

On the contrary. I accept that it is possible that your claims are correct. However, thus far you have not provided evidence to support the validity of your claims. Moreover, your claims appear to be non-sequitur, and not relevant to a discussion of the theory of evolution.

You just don't get it and don't want to get it because you are too caught up in your little vacuum of a world. I do pray God will open your eyes to the Truth.

Telling me that I "don't want to get it" does not change the fact that you have not supported your claims with evidence. It would appear that you are attempting to hold me responsible for your failure to produce a valid claim.

Any more replies to me will only get you a blank reply which means I have nothing else to say to you.

If you truly have nothing to say, then why are you speaking at all?
164 posted on 03/31/2006 12:49:27 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio


165 posted on 03/31/2006 12:51:19 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB

Did you have something that you wished to add, or is this your means of expressing that you are unwilling to listen to anyone who questions your unsubstantiated assertions?


166 posted on 03/31/2006 12:59:18 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio


167 posted on 03/31/2006 1:00:31 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB

I still do not understand the motive behind your blank replies. Do you believe that your blank replies somehow refute my statements, or do you believe that they somehow validate your own? I believe that you should be aware that a blank reply does neither.


168 posted on 03/31/2006 1:03:44 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

I have already told you what a blank reply means

"I have nothing else to say to you."

Now kindly GO AWAY


169 posted on 03/31/2006 1:05:47 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: Dimensio; WKB

"I still do not understand the motive behind your blank replies."

I thought it was his best argument yet. Certainly the most logical.


170 posted on 03/31/2006 1:21:15 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Did you just happen to be in the neighborhood
or were you invited over?


171 posted on 03/31/2006 1:23:56 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB
"Did you just happen to be in the neighborhood
or were you invited over?"

I don't need an invitation. :)
172 posted on 03/31/2006 1:30:46 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: WKB
"I have nothing else to say to you."

If you truly had nothing to say to me, then the most logical course of action would be to not reply at all. I am sorry, but the only logical inference for your continued replies to my postings, even if your replies are blank, is that you have some interest in my comments.

Now kindly GO AWAY

I am afraid that I must refuse your request. You do not control this forum, and as such I am free to post here at the discretion of those who do.
173 posted on 03/31/2006 1:31:16 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

Go for it.
Post away
With your charming personality and wit
you may convert me yet .


174 posted on 03/31/2006 1:33:29 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB
With your charming personality and wit you may convert me yet .

I am not attempting to "convert" you. I have merely pointed out that several of your arguments have appealed to logical fallacies, and other claims that you have made are completely unsubstantiated. I am not attempting to convince you that your statements are invalid, only that you have not substantiated them.
175 posted on 03/31/2006 1:37:28 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

I am not attempting to "convert" you


Now I'm hurt


176 posted on 03/31/2006 1:38:24 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB
Now I'm hurt

I am sorry. Why does the abscence of a conversion attempt from me cause you pain?
177 posted on 03/31/2006 1:39:27 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Why does the abscence of a conversion attempt from me cause you pain?



Because I am very sensitive kinda guy.
178 posted on 03/31/2006 1:44:39 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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To: WKB

I still do not understand how not attempting to convert you has caused distress.


179 posted on 03/31/2006 1:51:07 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

The proof I have is found in these verses.
The born again experience is something that you
have to experience for yourself. You can not
explain it to someone. The proof is in the "Supernatural
Transformation" that occurred in my life on July 21st
1985. You just have to be there.
and the only way to get there is ask
Jesus Christ to forgive you for your sins.
I'm sorry God made it so difficult for you
to understand. I didn't understand it for almost
35 years so I know the feeling.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
John 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit£ gives birth to spirit.
John 3:7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’
John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”



180 posted on 03/31/2006 1:53:24 PM PST by WKB (Take care not to make intellect our god; Albert Einstein)
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