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'War' on Christians Is Alleged. Conference Depicts a Culture Hostile to Evangelical Beliefs.
Washington Post ^ | 3/29/6 | Alan Cooperman

Posted on 03/29/2006 1:04:29 PM PST by Crackingham

The "War on Christmas" has morphed into a "War on Christians."

Last December, some evangelical Christian groups declared that the religious celebration of Christmas -- and even the phrase "Merry Christmas" -- was under attack by the forces of secularism. This week, radio commentator Rick Scarborough convened a conference in Washington on the "War on Christians and the Values Voters in 2006." The opening session was devoted to "reports from the frontlines" on "persecution" of Christians in the United States and Canada, including an artist whose paintings were barred from a municipal art show in Deltona, Fla., because they contained religious themes.

Among the conference's speakers were former House majority leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and Sens. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) and Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and conservative Christian leaders Phyllis Schlafly, Rod Parsley, Gary Bauer, Janet Parshall and Alan Keyes.

To many of the 400 evangelicals packed into a small ballroom at the Omni Shoreham Hotel, it was a hard but necessary look at moral relativism, hedonism and Christophobia, or fear of Christ, to pick just a few terms offered by various speakers referring to the enemy. To some outsiders, it illuminated the paranoia of the Christian right.

"Certainly religious persecution existed in our history, but to claim that these examples amount to religious persecution disrespects the experiences of people who have been jailed and died because of their faith," said Hollyn Hollman, general counsel of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.

"This is a skirmish over religious pluralism, and the inclination to see it as a war against Christianity strikes me as a spoiled-brat response by Christians who have always enjoyed the privileges of a majority position," said the Rev. Robert Franklin, a minister in the Church of God in Christ and professor of social ethics at Emory University.

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To: conserv13; Sam the Sham
"I think it is very dangerous to divide us. Christians, Americans, whatever. We are all in this together."


We are NOT in this together. We have a fifth column at work in this country. The same people that are seeking to suppress Christianity are also working to undermine traditional America freedoms.

We have a large group of people in this country that hate America and all that it stands for (including it's Christian heritage). I can assure you that we ain't "in it all together" with these folks.
81 posted on 03/29/2006 2:34:30 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: steve-b

You have a little piece of food stuck between your teeth, steve-b.


82 posted on 03/29/2006 2:36:32 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Good luck with that.


83 posted on 03/29/2006 2:38:28 PM PST by conserv13
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To: jude24

Please cite Augustine's reference to the church as a harlot.


84 posted on 03/29/2006 2:42:19 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: conserv13
"Good luck with that."

You to!


85 posted on 03/29/2006 2:44:46 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Corin Stormhands
We trivialize the word "persecution" when we make it refer to trivial matters like Christmas displays.

We trivialize our Constitution when it is interpreted as prohibiting Christmas displays.

86 posted on 03/29/2006 2:45:56 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: conserv13
The thing is, it all goes one way. I would have less problem with firing someone because they were Christian and did not fit in, if you could also fire someone because they were gay, and did not fit in.

The way it is going now, pharmacists now can be fired, if they refuse to give abortafacients to women. Wall mart is being sued over this issue right now.
87 posted on 03/29/2006 2:47:36 PM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; ohioWfan; Tribune7; Tolkien; GrandEagle; Right in Wisconsin; Dataman; ..

ping for interest


88 posted on 03/29/2006 2:47:41 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: MineralMan; PetroniusMaximus
No, these are all recent stories. The ball is in your court to refute that religiosity in the US is under attack.
89 posted on 03/29/2006 2:50:33 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Gone GF

All recent stories.


90 posted on 03/29/2006 2:51:19 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: NathanR
Giving abortion pills to women is not the same in professing faith in Jesus Christ.

I'm sure there are people who consider themselves Catholic who have used birth control, work in places where they sell condoms, etc...

If they feel that strongly about it, they should go protest in front of an abortion clinic or sell all your possesions and work for the poor.

91 posted on 03/29/2006 2:52:38 PM PST by conserv13
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To: Jacquerie
No, these are all recent stories. The ball is in your court to refute that religiosity in the US is under attack.

If they are each and every one of them recent stories reported in the news, then you should have no trouble providing links or references that demonstrate their factual nature? Right? I'll hold my breath...or wait, that's probably a bad idea.

92 posted on 03/29/2006 2:53:18 PM PST by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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To: conserv13

"Funny, I live in one of the bluest states. I Go to the DMV or the post office or bank and people say 'have a blessed' day to me all the time. People wear crosses around their necks and have little posters and prayer cards on their cubicles."

But if a militant atheist were to walk into these same government offices and took offense at being "blessed", how long do you think that display of religious belief would be tolerated? Seriously, when the ACLU insists that a tiny cross atop an old spanish mission in the city seal of Los Angeles has to be removed, doesn't it seem just a bit extreme?


93 posted on 03/29/2006 2:53:58 PM PST by syncked
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To: Jacquerie
The ball is in your court to refute that religiosity in the US is under attack.

Could an atheist be elected President in this country?

Stand outside of any church on a Sunday and tell me that religion is somehow being pushed into the corners of our society.

95 posted on 03/29/2006 2:55:47 PM PST by Potowmack ("In politics, madame, you need two things: friends, but above all an enemy." Brian Mulroney)
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To: syncked
Seriously, when the ACLU insists that a tiny cross atop an old spanish mission in the city seal of Los Angeles has to be removed, doesn't it seem just a bit extreme?

Absolutely. I think the ninnies on the far left are even more out of it than some of the people here who think Christians are 'persecuted'.

Here is a solution to the 'cross in public' issue: use another symbol. Fish. Alpha/Omega.

96 posted on 03/29/2006 2:56:31 PM PST by conserv13
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To: Jacquerie

I don't have one; it was attributed to him in a book I read ("A Scandalous Freedom"). It had the ring of authenticity; I found similar quotations - not all tracing themselves back to the book I myself had read - attributing it to him, so I ran with it.


97 posted on 03/29/2006 2:57:32 PM PST by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: Jacquerie

Thw NWO/Elitists/Globalists have a major obstacle in the Christian Right...they must eliminate this obstacle so they use the Dems/ACLU/NEA/Rino's et el as their "tool".... someday soon we will wake up and realize that the issue isn't Democrat vs Republican and never has been.

Some of us are pretty slow though ;-)


98 posted on 03/29/2006 2:59:23 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Jacquerie
The First Amendment forbids Congress from establishing religion, and the Fourteenth extends that.

The Constitution is far from silent.

99 posted on 03/29/2006 2:59:24 PM PST by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: Potowmack
Stand outside of any church on a Sunday and tell me that religion is somehow being pushed into the corners of our society.

Didn't you read the article? They feel they are being persecuted. So, undoubtedly they're being forced to meet and worship in secret; being thrown in jail for being Christian; being forced to perform in arenas in duels to the death for the amusement of their pagan overlords; and generally tortured and abused. How could you doubt their word on the matter?

100 posted on 03/29/2006 2:59:34 PM PST by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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